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Chriznat20

RO# 17066

Posted - Nov 01 2007 :  15:37:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a 99 Four Winns w/5.7L Volvo Duo-prop setup. I want to remove the outdrive and bring it to my marine mechanic to have new u-joints installed.
Can somebody post step by step directions for me?

And before somebody says it - a Seloc manual came w/the boat from the previous owner, but seem to have lent it out and forgot to who!
1997 Four Winns 278 Vista
T-4.3GI, Kohler 4cz23 Genset
185 hours as of 10/21/13
"Lucky Fox III"

Homeport: Michigan

JUSTINTIME

RO# 28867

Posted - Nov 27 2007 :  00:31:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
6 bolts and the shifter cable needs to be unscrewed


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SvedasFish

RO# 27329

Posted - Nov 27 2007 :  14:06:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Chriznat20

I have the 5.7 volvo duoprop. I have pix I can put up tonight showing how to remove it. I used a motorcycle jack and 4x4s to support it. with the jack I can remove / install it myself.

You should replace the 6 nuts with new ones and there are two O rings that should be replaced anytime you pull it.
Have a wooden dowel handy to tap out the rod that connects the hydraulic tilt pistons. The jack supports the engine when the pistons are disconnected. I used string to tie up the pistons to keep them out of the way

Count the number of turns it takes to remove the shift linkage . It saves you having to readjust it when you re-install it.

Good Luck




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SvedasFish

RO# 27329

Posted - Nov 27 2007 :  20:49:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
These pix show what to do.

















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Nauset

RO# 23391

Posted - Nov 28 2007 :  16:37:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great photos. Thanks for posting those.

Four Winns 268 Vista
Lake Winnipesaukee, NH

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njlarry

RO# 21807

Posted - Nov 30 2007 :  09:00:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Whoa SvedasFish those pics are the best I've seen of how to remove the volvo outdrive. I live in Medford, could I come over to see how you do it? I lack the courage to just go at it without the experience. I have the manual but it's not as clear as I'd like.
Thanks.
Larry



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SvedasFish

RO# 27329

Posted - Dec 03 2007 :  12:34:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Larry

Your welcome to check out the removal procedure.
I haven't done it yet (want some warm weather).

Give me an email or phone # and I will let you know when I plan to do it.

Bill



Homeport: Deptford,NJ Go to Top of Page

scanman717

RO# 24290

Posted - Dec 06 2007 :  21:28:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just for my own edification, in the first pic that SvedasFish posted, is that the gimbal bearing??

Either way, thanks for the pics.. Great for the do-it-yourselfer!!


2004 Regal Destiny 2120

Homeport: Bradenton, FL Go to Top of Page

KiDa

RO# 16492



Posted - Dec 07 2007 :  08:22:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am not sure if the Duo Prop has the same u-joints as the SX. If so, the advertised joints (at least on my old one) will NOT fit. Ping Thompson Gunr as he had an SX with the same issues and I provided him the NAPA numbers. I gave them to George as well. I sold the boat and do not have them any more.

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David
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'99 330 Sundancer

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njlarry

RO# 21807

Posted - Dec 09 2007 :  11:15:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Bill.
Larry



Edited by - njlarry on Dec 14 2007 00:17:55

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LouC

RO# 10314

Posted - Dec 09 2007 :  14:12:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Excellent write-up, I've been thinking of ways to make this job easier, since I usually let the shop do it, and I had seen the motorcycle jack at Sears once and wondered how easy it would be to adapt to an outdrive jack. I'm going to do my Cobra that way this winter.

1988 Four Winns 200 Horizon 4.3 OMC Cobra
1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 Selectrac
2007 Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7 Hemi Quadradrive II

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SvedasFish

RO# 27329

Posted - Dec 12 2007 :  12:47:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LouC

I had to cut a reinforcing bar that went across the jack. It would prevent the out drive from sitting down between the part that the 4X4s are on. It came off easy with a hack saw.
You can probable get a good deal after the holidays on the jack (sales).

Bill



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Riverratt

RO# 12842

Posted - Dec 12 2007 :  13:19:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The dipstick in the top is designed to be replaced with an eyebolt to lift the drive. Perhaps a cherry picker or something else could be used?


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Michael Clemensen

RO# 2006



Posted - Dec 12 2007 :  19:39:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You guys maybe over engineering this!







Posted again for viewing pleasure. Use tilt/trim and trailer tongue jack to put weight of anti-cavitation plate on wooden dolly. One straight set of rollers forward and the aft set rotates.






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SvedasFish

RO# 27329

Posted - Dec 13 2007 :  13:12:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Elegant solution Michael !

I had the jack for "other" toys. So I only needed the 4x4s.

This forum is great for DIY guy.



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TitanBry77

RO# 29998

Posted - May 08 2008 :  19:36:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are any special tools required for removing the drive. I am going to have to tackle this in the next week, the pics are great, Thanks!

Pura Vida!
Regal 2450

Edited by - TitanBry77 on May 08 2008 19:36:33

Homeport: Severn River, MD Go to Top of Page

muddkatt

RO# 27304

Posted - May 08 2008 :  19:46:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Basic hand tools.

Ken



1997 Wellcraft Eclipse 2400S
5.7 Volvo Penta tweaked to 330HP
DP-S DuoProp w/F6 props
FWC system by Monitor Products

Homeport: Tarpon Springs, Fl. Go to Top of Page

TitanBry77

RO# 29998

Posted - May 08 2008 :  19:55:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok great thanks, I thought there may be a special tool for removing the cable etc. Do you know if they make a maintenance kit for this drive, while I have it off might as well. I saw on the iboats site that they have kits for the DP-1 and others, didn't see anything for DP-SM 1.95

Pura Vida!
Regal 2450

Homeport: Severn River, MD Go to Top of Page

muddkatt

RO# 27304

Posted - May 08 2008 :  20:24:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No kits for general maintenance, you can get gasket and seal kits. As long as the gear oil does not have water in it, there is no real need to change them. I am not suggesting that changing the seals is bad idea, but you have a decent size project to change them all.


1997 Wellcraft Eclipse 2400S
5.7 Volvo Penta tweaked to 330HP
DP-S DuoProp w/F6 props
FWC system by Monitor Products

Homeport: Tarpon Springs, Fl. Go to Top of Page

TitanBry77

RO# 29998

Posted - May 08 2008 :  20:26:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is there any that I should change, we thoroughly checked the gear oil and there is no water.

Pura Vida!
Regal 2450

Homeport: Severn River, MD Go to Top of Page

muddkatt

RO# 27304

Posted - May 08 2008 :  20:28:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There was a link about 2 weeks ago in the "ask the captain" section about a cracked drive from freezing. Now would be a good time to modify yours if you think this would be a good preventive maintenance issue.


1997 Wellcraft Eclipse 2400S
5.7 Volvo Penta tweaked to 330HP
DP-S DuoProp w/F6 props
FWC system by Monitor Products

Homeport: Tarpon Springs, Fl. Go to Top of Page

muddkatt

RO# 27304

Posted - May 08 2008 :  20:31:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Depends on the age of the drive, hours of use, and any corrosion issues you have.


1997 Wellcraft Eclipse 2400S
5.7 Volvo Penta tweaked to 330HP
DP-S DuoProp w/F6 props
FWC system by Monitor Products

Homeport: Tarpon Springs, Fl. Go to Top of Page

TitanBry77

RO# 29998

Posted - May 08 2008 :  20:32:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok thanks, I think i saw it, in regards to that tiny opening where mine cracked? Anything else like Zincs, gaskets etc?

Pura Vida!
Regal 2450

Homeport: Severn River, MD Go to Top of Page

muddkatt

RO# 27304

Posted - May 08 2008 :  21:48:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I could not recall who listed the cracked drive. Are you going to get it welded?
Check the zincs, if this is the same drive that had the crack, there was lots of signs of corrosion starting.
The best thing to do is sand down all the bad spots and repaint. There is a sticky on the proper way at the top of this forum. Correcting this now will prevent a total tear down like I had to do.

Ken



1997 Wellcraft Eclipse 2400S
5.7 Volvo Penta tweaked to 330HP
DP-S DuoProp w/F6 props
FWC system by Monitor Products

Homeport: Tarpon Springs, Fl. Go to Top of Page

TitanBry77

RO# 29998

Posted - May 09 2008 :  09:48:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Muddkatt. Volvo will make their determination today, if they aren't covering it, I found a shop that all they do is well drives, skegs etc, and they said they see no reason why that can't be welded. The boat/drive is 4 seasons old, and has about 160 hours. I printed out the sticky on the top of the forum. Anything else you can recomend?

Pura Vida!
Regal 2450

Homeport: Severn River, MD Go to Top of Page

KnottyBuoyz

RO# 20406

Posted - May 09 2008 :  10:13:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
R&R'ing those DP drives sure look a heck of a lot easier than my old 290DP! Problem with using a cherry picker is usually the swim platform. I had to use two ratchet straps to sling it from the swim platform. It worked fairly well and allowed me to line everything up and swing it into place. Definitely not a one-man job on the old DP's except for someone persistant (wifey uses word stubborn in this context) as me! ;-)


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muddkatt

RO# 27304

Posted - May 09 2008 :  13:11:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Let us know what Volvo determines.


1997 Wellcraft Eclipse 2400S
5.7 Volvo Penta tweaked to 330HP
DP-S DuoProp w/F6 props
FWC system by Monitor Products

Homeport: Tarpon Springs, Fl. Go to Top of Page

TitanBry77

RO# 29998

Posted - May 09 2008 :  20:28:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Verdict posted in my original Topic with the crack in ask the captain.

Pura Vida!
Regal 2450

Homeport: Severn River, MD Go to Top of Page

TitanBry77

RO# 29998

Posted - May 12 2008 :  19:59:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have all 6 bolts off, the shift cable etc. The drive feels like it wants to come off but it just won't break lose. Could it be the shaft (spline) bound up? We put the prop on, rotated it etc to see if that would help and nothing, it's so close, but not quite there.

Anything I should check for?


Pura Vida!
Regal 2450

Homeport: Severn River, MD Go to Top of Page

muddkatt

RO# 27304

Posted - May 12 2008 :  20:04:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just get a little rough with it. There are o-rings on the shaft, and since yours had water
in it, there might be some rust holding it. Don't forget to remove the trim cylinders.

Ken



1997 Wellcraft Eclipse 2400S
5.7 Volvo Penta tweaked to 330HP
DP-S DuoProp w/F6 props
FWC system by Monitor Products

Homeport: Tarpon Springs, Fl. Go to Top of Page

TitanBry77

RO# 29998

Posted - May 13 2008 :  09:08:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fought it a bit this morning before work, was rushing but no luck. I think I'll need a few people in there prying it off. May call the local Volvo shop see if they have ran into this or can pull it for me.

Pura Vida!
Regal 2450

Homeport: Severn River, MD Go to Top of Page
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