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Lee100

RO# 28053

Posted - Sep 03 2007 :  13:38:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am almost ready to sea trial a 1986 Sea Devil
Express. One question I have is about the batteries. There are (5), two that look like regular starting batters, and three that are giant size like golf cart batteries. I would think that they would be used If the boat had diesel power. This boat has twin fwc 270's.
They must cost $$$$$ to replace.Any idea how much and who sells them.
Thanx.

Homeport: NJ

RamSport47

RO# 28240

Posted - Sep 03 2007 :  18:45:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Most large boat dealers will stock them...they are "8D" batteries and are the same as used in diesel semi trucks. They're usually around $240 to $270ish depending on area and dealer. Not sure why the boat has those in it though...it should be just fine with 31 series deep cycles

Kenny
1998 Carver 310 Santego
T-Merc 350 Mag V-drives

Homeport: Cedar Point Marina, Ohio Go to Top of Page

PascalG

RO# 12212



Posted - Sep 03 2007 :  20:59:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
from your description they look like 8Ds. they are not jsut more expensive but are very heavy and require two people to replace... they are likely used as house banks, if that's the case you're better off replacing them with golf cart batteries when time comes. they cost less and only weight 60lbs. two of them, in series will give you 220 AH at 12v...

Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper

Homeport: Miami, FL Go to Top of Page

Lee100

RO# 28053

Posted - Sep 03 2007 :  22:34:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for the response. They are on charge now and will be checked for their condition.
Glad I found this sight as I expect to be the proud owner if the sea trial goes well.



Homeport: NJ Go to Top of Page

PascalG

RO# 12212



Posted - Sep 04 2007 :  09:02:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
you're going to get a survey, are you ?

check the labels on the batteries to see how old they are... 4 to 5 years is the average life expectancy, depending on climate, the type of charger and if the owner checkcs fluid levels.



Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper

Homeport: Miami, FL Go to Top of Page

Lee100

RO# 28053

Posted - Sep 04 2007 :  17:37:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm going to pass on the survey. I've been in boating for (38) years and this will be my (16th.) boat. I know, I'm a boat nut but what could be a better vice. I feel I should know what to expect by now. I have had surveys in the past and was able to discover more than the guy doing the inspection. Hopefully my luck will hold out.
Thank you for the concern.
Lee



Homeport: NJ Go to Top of Page

HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Sep 04 2007 :  17:58:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Please don't take this the wrong way, but if you don't even know what 8D batteries look like, you might want to reconsider and hire a professional surveyor to go over the boat.



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1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

Lee100

RO# 28053

Posted - Sep 04 2007 :  18:08:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know what 8D batteries look like. I guess I didn't explain properly.
It just seemed strange that they were in this type of boat with twin gas power and that there was (3) of them as well as (2) starting batteries. Well, hopefully they will check out OK before I consider replacing them with a different set-up. (2) starting and (2) deep cycle.



Homeport: NJ Go to Top of Page

PascalG

RO# 12212



Posted - Sep 04 2007 :  19:39:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
not necessarily... the starting batteries are for the engines and the current owner may have upgraded the house bank if he spent a lot of time on the hook especially with an inverter. I have an 880 AH inverter bank...

Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper

Homeport: Miami, FL Go to Top of Page

Lee100

RO# 28053

Posted - Sep 04 2007 :  22:48:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What you say is probably true. I know this guy was an avid fisherman.
Seems he spent all his time fishing and very little time cleaning up.
He did keep the boat in good mechanical condition. Thank you so much for all the advice. You never stop learning when it comes to boating.
I hope I can be of help to someone in the future.
Thanx again.
Tomorrow is sea trial day. Will let you Know how things go.
Lee



Homeport: NJ Go to Top of Page

RamSport47

RO# 28240

Posted - Sep 05 2007 :  06:44:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
a 1986 boat without a survey? you're braver than I am!!!

Kenny
1998 Carver 310 Santego
T-Merc 350 Mag V-drives

Homeport: Cedar Point Marina, Ohio Go to Top of Page

Lee100

RO# 28053

Posted - Sep 05 2007 :  10:04:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know about braver, maybe just dummer. I just have that strong gut feeling and you know how hard it is to control that.


Homeport: NJ Go to Top of Page

RadioguyJ

RO# 9357

Posted - Sep 05 2007 :  17:01:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A strong percentage of boats I have bought have not been surveyed, of course none of them were over 8-9 years old when I bought them. After a couple obvious surveys, where I knew more than the surveyor, I dumped the idea and went with my gut and my experience. It has never failed me one time.

Jason
2000 Cruisers Yachts 3375 Express
"American Beauty"
2002 Mercury 270 Sport Inflatable

Homeport: Miss-Croix Yacht Harbor, Prescott, WI Go to Top of Page

Lee100

RO# 28053

Posted - Sep 05 2007 :  19:48:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did a sea trial today and my gut was right. The boat ran great.
Handling was terrific and rides better than the 36' Chris I once had.
Will take delivery next week. Can't wait. The best time for boating is still ahead. I would like to post pictures. Signed up in photo Bucket but can't see where to cut and paste into this site. Hope you can help me.
Thank you for sharing yor gut feeling too.
Lee



Homeport: NJ Go to Top of Page

RadioguyJ

RO# 9357

Posted - Sep 05 2007 :  20:49:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lee, after you upload the pics to your photobucket site, under the small "thumbnail" of each pic there are four lines. Just click the line that says "IMG Code" and it will highlight and automatically copy the text. Then paste that here and your pic will show up!

Congrats!


Jason
2000 Cruisers Yachts 3375 Express
"American Beauty"
2002 Mercury 270 Sport Inflatable

Homeport: Miss-Croix Yacht Harbor, Prescott, WI Go to Top of Page

Lee100

RO# 28053

Posted - Sep 05 2007 :  22:42:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Homeport: NJ Go to Top of Page

Lee100

RO# 28053

Posted - Sep 05 2007 :  22:49:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I didn't think it went through so I ended up doing it two times, SORRY
Sometimes I can be a dummy but I did figure it out.
There are two before clean-up and launching. I'm as happy as a pig in you know what.
Glad to be part of the gang.



Edited by - Lee100 on Sep 06 2007 17:23:28

Homeport: NJ Go to Top of Page

ddurand

RO# 5015

Posted - Apr 06 2009 :  22:34:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would not replace 8D batteries with lighter golf cart batteries. The weight is the lead and more weight provides more capacity. If the batteries test marginal, try a desulfate cycle and see if that improves the battery.


Homeport: Hyde Park, NY Go to Top of Page

Tiki Time

RO# 28380

Posted - Apr 07 2009 :  15:35:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have the 2970 Esprit. Love the boat, cruises at 23 mph rb2rb2@gr5tgr5t 3100 to 3200. If you ever get tired of that ladder on the swim platform let me know! Did it come with a genny? Good Luck and Congraqdulations!


Phil

Homeport: West Coast , FL Go to Top of Page

walterv

RO# 12640



Posted - Apr 07 2009 :  16:48:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lee,
It may be to late for the survey, was just thinking though, you may need survey anyway for the insurance company. Nice looking boat, best of luck.

Walter


And always remember, life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by those moments that take our breath away.

George Carlin

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HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Apr 07 2009 :  17:44:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Walter is right, insurance companies usually require a condition and valuation survey on boats older than 10 years.

Just because it "ran great" does not mean that there are not serious issues that a surveyor should find. Going with your "gut" can be an expensive proposition.


_________________________


1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

muddkatt

RO# 27304

Posted - Apr 07 2009 :  18:31:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Did you notice that this thread got "dug up" from 2007? Walter, you and Hogan are slipping.

Ken



1997 Wellcraft Eclipse 2400S
5.7 Volvo Penta tweaked to 330HP
DP-S DuoProp w/F6 props
FWC system by Monitor Products

Homeport: Tarpon Springs, Fl. Go to Top of Page

walterv

RO# 12640



Posted - Apr 07 2009 :  19:07:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's too funny, well I guess it is really to late :)

And always remember, life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by those moments that take our breath away.

George Carlin

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HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Apr 07 2009 :  19:17:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
oops! I wonder how he made out...

_________________________


1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page
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