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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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 Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 06:43:33
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For 7 yrs now we've the Admiral (Lori) and I have been planning to build our own boat. We chose the TW28 from bateau.com for it's ease of construction. This past weekend we took a 1000 mi road trip from Iroquois ON to Boston MA to pick up the CnC plywood kit for the TW28. We scored an excellent deal from a fella there who abandoned his TW28 project. This is what it looks like before assembly....
And if all goes well over the next 3 yrs or so we'll end up with something that looks like this.....
Standby.... more details to follow....
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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rnbenton
RO# 31163
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 07:09:05
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Way cool! Good luck and PLEASE post photos as you progress. In my younger years I always wanted to try that but never got the gumption or time to get going.
I can't wait to see yours when it's finished and launched.
I went to the web site and looked at photos of finished boats. Man, what a nice looking craft. Very nice lines.
Bob
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Homeport: Palm Coast, FL
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In the know
RO# 20824
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 07:18:47
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WOW, ambitious project. I built a 12' stitch n glue dinghy a few years ago. While the process is certainly rewarding, the constant fairing and sanding was driving me crazy! I can only imagine the time investment in something like that. Heck, I think the dinghy took me 50 work hours start to finish.
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Homeport: The Ocean State
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Cpt. Harold
RO# 29184
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 07:32:26
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A buddy of mine started this sailboat "kit" some yrs ago.
He made a "start up" party at his house and the whole
Boqueron Power Squadron was in attendance as he and his admiral
glued/bolted the first parts and heard him proudly proclaim
"Next yr we will have a launching party".
That was 4 yrs ago and we're still waiting.
In his defense I can say he's not accepted help from anyone and
furthermore, his business keeps him away too much.
A 28' wood boat from the ground up is a big project, but when
finished will be a remarkable achievement.
Keep us posted on progress! Make a log with lots of pics!
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Homeport: Boqueron, Puerto Rico
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biglar
RO# 15878
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 08:06:12
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Looks like a Sam Devlin design. About 15 years ago, I built his 13 ft duck boat and the design, plans and instructions were great. I visited him in his shop near Olympia, WA (I lived in Port Angeles then) and was very impressed with Sam and with everything I saw in his shop. Good Luck on your project. Eat the apple one bite at a time, but look ahead and keep an eye on where you'll bite next.
Lar.
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Homeport: NM
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Wingspar
RO# 1979
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 08:16:38
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Does this count???
Dave
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Homeport: Semiahmoo, WA
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biglar
RO# 15878
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 08:18:39
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Pee Ess.......While on the Pirate's Cove trip 2 years ago, ( http://gogittum.com/blog/?cat=73 ) a Devlin designed boat - I think a Scoter, but looked much like yours - anchored near us for the night. When he left in the morning, it was amazing. The boat was outboard powered and I'd guess 26 ft. When he hit the throttle, there was no noise. Silence. The boat lifted about 6" and "slid" over the water at about 12 - 14 mph and made no fuss, no wake, no nothing. Almost like it was levitating. My friends and I laughed and commented on it and watched it out of sight. Devlin designs great boats.
Lar.
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Homeport: NM
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In the know
RO# 20824
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 08:27:35
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The boat pictured in the first post is not a Devlin design - says so in the post itself.
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Homeport: The Ocean State
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RO# 20824
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 08:28:24
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quote:
Originally posted by Wingspar
Does this count???
Dave
Beautiful!! Chesapeake Lightcraft?
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Homeport: The Ocean State
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Shadowcruzr
RO# 1702
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 08:34:31
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Wing: Can I buy the plans for that off you? THat is sweet!
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Homeport: Elizabeth City, NC
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KiDa
RO# 16492
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 08:39:11
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Just curious Rick. Is the Toro in the pix the recommended propulsion package? 
Good luck and as stated...LOTS of pix.
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Saint Max
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Homeport: Hopewell, VA
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nwaring
RO# 16045
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 08:51:58
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Knotty...best of luck that is too cool!
Niles
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"Interlude"
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Homeport: Ashtabula Oh - Lake Erie
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Radioactive
RO# 3238
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 09:05:28
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May the force be with you! 
( I hope you like sanding! )
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That is one beautiful ?kayak? !
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Bill
"No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Bonzai
"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame |
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Homeport: MS Gulf Coast
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 09:24:00
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quote:
Originally posted by KiDa
Just curious Rick. Is the Toro in the pix the recommended propulsion package?
Good luck and as stated...LOTS of pix.
No Kida, I'm going to stick a few weed whacker conversions on the transom! :-)
Thnx for all the kind comments and encouragement. Rest assured we'll post pics (somewhere, maybe a blog site). I need to pick Pascal's brain as I'm thinking a live web cam in the shed might work too.
That kayak is a work of art Dave. Very nice indeed.
The bateau TW28 is designed for amateur construction which is why we chose it. We looked at a lot of other designs, Devlin, Glen-L, Buehler, Simpson, Nevelle etc. before we chose this one. We've been purchasing equipment for the last few years, mostly e-Bay, and so far we're under budget. I expect we'll be able to finish this boat for $50K-$55K which some people find incredible but I'm tracking each purchase on a spreadsheet online.
http://www.editgrid.com/user/knottybuoyz/Spent_To_Date
The engine isn't new, 20 yrs old but it came out of a racing yacht and only has 300 hrs on it. I've had it serviced and it'll be more than adequate for our needs.
I'm fully aware that these kind of projects can run well over their estimated time and am prepared for that. I've got 5 yrs till retirement and would like to have this one done in 3. Plans state 1800 hrs for workboat finish. We're going to do a little better than that so probably 3000 hrs or more. I don't really care about that I just need to take my time and get it right the first time because I know I'll never go back and fix it later.
I've also had to keep a running inventory of stuff because I've almost started buying duplicates! Doh! So far the only part we've paid full retail price is the Python Drive. Everything else we've bargain shopped or found deals online. Well almost, we won't mention the electrical panel project.....
http://s237.photobucket.com/albums/ff166/KnottyBuoyz/KBIII/Inventory/?start=all
Most of that is in the rec room, which the wife wants back someday, so I got to get moving on this. Standby..... updates soon.
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 09:27:28
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quote:
Originally posted by Radioactive
( I hope you like sanding! )
Don't you mean "I hope the wife likes sanding?" :-)
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 09:44:01
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I just found this on Lori's camera. I think the look on my face says it all! "WTF have I gotten myself into?" *hehehe*
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
Edited by - KnottyBuoyz on Jun 29 2010 09:44:30 |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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jdhcompass
RO# 247
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 09:56:30
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Awesome Rick! What a project. Something I would love to do some day.
Cheers, John
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Homeport: Vancouver, BC
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KiDa
RO# 16492
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 09:58:21
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That Python drive is interesting. Are you going to use soft engine mounts as well.
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Saint Max
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 10:48:15
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quote:
Originally posted by KiDa
That Python drive is interesting. Are you going to use soft engine mounts as well.
Definitely KiDa. That's one of the side benefits of the Python drive. I think they're called "isolation mounts". Got them bookmarked somewhere.
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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Sandy
RO# 1159
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 12:00:06
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The Python looks to be very similar to the Evolution marine shaft system.
Good luck , Rick ! Will it be ready for 4th of July?
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Homeport: The Vineyard
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ronp
RO# 23477
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 12:25:01
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quote:
Originally posted by KiDa
Just curious Rick. Is the Toro in the pix the recommended propulsion package?
Good luck and as stated...LOTS of pix.
Don't you recognize a marine generator when you see one?
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Homeport: Amityville, NY
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 13:47:13
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Originally posted by Sandy
The Python looks to be very similar to the Evolution marine shaft system.
Very similar except the python doesn't include the shaft or special stern tube thrust bearing. IIRC Evolution quoted me $2700 US for this boat. The Python drive cost me just under a grand. The Python drive requires a thrust plate between the stringers instead.
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Originally posted by SandyGood luck , Rick ! Will it be ready for 4th of July?
July 4, 2013....... Maybe! :-)
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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seabug
RO# 18861
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 21:51:02
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I would prefer a "one-off" fiberglass vessel.
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Homeport: Ms.
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Thudpucker
RO# 10503
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Posted - Jun 29 2010 : 22:58:59
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Ahhhhh Rick, building your own.
In my younger days I spent a month building McKenzie River Drift boats. Later on I built several of different kinds.
Not one ounce of Fiber glass in any of them.
You have one heckuva project laid out there. I'll keep my fingers crossed as you gather all the Clamps, Power Plane's, and other tools that will eventually equal the price of the Material. LOL!
Good on ya! And remember were all in this together. I'm pullin for ya!
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Homeport: AL.
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Jun 30 2010 : 04:41:07
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Originally posted by Thudpucker
Ahhhhh Rick, building your own.
In my younger days I spent a month building McKenzie River Drift boats. Later on I built several of different kinds.
Not one ounce of Fiber glass in any of them.
You have one heckuva project laid out there. I'll keep my fingers crossed as you gather all the Clamps, Power Plane's, and other tools that will eventually equal the price of the Material. LOL!
Good on ya! And remember were all in this together. I'm pullin for ya!
Thnx Thud. I appreciate it. These forums are a virtual treasure trove of info. A resource not to be overlooked that's for sure. Tools I got and yup the price of them adds up too. Think they only thing I'm missing is a good router table. I just can't pack more stuff into my basement at this point! :-)
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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dl2525
RO# 31205
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Posted - Jun 30 2010 : 14:14:32
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Very cool! Good luck.
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Homeport: NJ
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 08:00:21
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I think the first question a person asks oneself after deciding to build a boat is "Where will I build it?" There's a boatyard nearby where I could have rented space to build but a dispute with the owner after he doubled "MY" rate put an end to that. My only alternative is to use my back yard, ALL OF IT!
I looked at pretty much every commercially available temp shelter on the market. The prices were beyond my budget so I decided to build a "Bow Shed" from Stimson Marine plans ($20 and well worth it!)
Bow sheds consist of two parallel 1x3" spruce strapping separated by a 2x3" block essentially leaving you with a curved truss. Two bows make an arch jointed at a ridge along the centerline of the shed.
The bows are assembled on a jig, the only place I had was my driveway. You glue and screw them together as you work your way up the bow ending up with something that looks like these...
Occasionally you get one that cracks on you and you have to start over.
Breakage is expected. Once you get the hang of it you can tell which ones are going to break as soon as you start to bend them.
The shed I'm building will be 20' by 32' and fill my entire backyard. There's no bylaws here on temporary structures so I used the maximum space I could.
Looks a lil' like a messy construction site eh? Well it is. I'm working alone on this and it's a pain in the back. These structures are a lot of work and it's hard on the back and knees for a fat ole' fool like me to work on the ground all the time.
The next report should be actually assembling this monster! Standby.....
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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jstokes
RO# 6292
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 10:35:10
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Neat idea! I am in a similar sitution. Can you share a link, address or other contact info for the plans? Work fast. Winter's coming. Thanks. J
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Homeport: Georgia
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 10:51:01
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All I can say is awesome!
Bill
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Homeport: Tuckerton, N.J.
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Bluto
RO# 31838
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 10:59:16
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Rick,
That is great project. Even the shed. What does the shed get covered with?
Thanks for posting the pics.
Rob
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Homeport: Cincinnati, OH
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Radioactive
RO# 3238
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 11:00:22
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jstokes: emailed you the link.
bluto: plastic sheet.
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Bill
"No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Bonzai
"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame |
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Homeport: MS Gulf Coast
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Thudpucker
RO# 10503
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 14:33:05
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A note of experience on a Temp covered with plastic sheet.
I covered my 24' Fiberform in AK with a Tent. Immediately as the snow hit I found out the Visqueen froze and broke.
I then covered that Visqueen with new, and then covered that with 'Blue Tarp'.
The Visqueen is 'clear and see through' which acts like a thermal furnace and draws moisture inside.
The Blue tarp leaks.
So for strength, rely on the Blue tarp, and for water proofing rely on the Clear Visqueen.
During the day you don't need lights under that pair of tarps.
I also put a Fan out there which ran all winter (after I fixed the tarps) and it was nice n' dry in the spring.
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Homeport: AL.
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carver 2557
RO# 11591
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 14:53:53
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How is ya going to cut yer grass with all that crap in the yard?...
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Flutterby
RO# 14378
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 15:04:19
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Rick, why isn't Wayne over there helping you??? I thought he was your FRIEND????
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Homeport: California Sierras/Gold Country
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stmbtwle
RO# 7934
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 15:50:51
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Wow I'm impressed...
Does a REbuild count??? Link
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Homeport: Tampa Bay, FL
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carver 2557
RO# 11591
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 16:36:44
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quote:
Originally posted by Flutterby
Rick, why isn't Wayne over there helping you??? I thought he was your FRIEND????
I tried to help him with the long grass...I bought him a goat and he put it on the BBQ and ate the damn thing...
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 17:02:31
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quote:
Originally posted by jstokes
Neat idea! I am in a similar sitution. Can you share a link, address or other contact info for the plans? Work fast. Winter's coming. Thanks. J
Hi J
Just google "Stimson Marine Bow Shed". Any questions just ask, always willing to help.
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 17:06:41
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quote:
Originally posted by Bluto
Rick,
That is great project. Even the shed. What does the shed get covered with?
Thanks for posting the pics.
Rob
I'm going to cover it with Dr. Shrink 6 mil plastic. I should get two maybe 3 years out of it that way. We bought a full roll, 270' x 17' so we've got enough to do the whole shed at least 3 times.
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 17:07:32
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quote:
Originally posted by carver 2557
How is ya going to cut yer grass with all that crap in the yard?...
I stole your pet goat Wayne.
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 17:08:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Flutterby
Rick, why isn't Wayne over there helping you??? I thought he was your FRIEND????
Ok, catch 22 flutters. Yeah he's my buddy but I do want to get this done sometime this year! ;-)
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 17:13:59
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quote:
Originally posted by stmbtwle
Does a REbuild count??? Link
Wow! That's a nice job on that rebuild! Is it an old Gibson? There's a 50'er in our old marina that I thought about doing that to. Kinda figured it was too big a job for me though. Nice work!
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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stmbtwle
RO# 7934
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 17:21:08
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Thanks it's an old 35' Drift-R-Cruise by Pacemaker.
At least it floated...
All you really need is a good chainsaw!!!
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Homeport: Tampa Bay, FL
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 17:22:05
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quote:
Originally posted by Thudpucker
A note of experience on a Temp covered with plastic sheet.
I covered my 24' Fiberform in AK with a Tent. Immediately as the snow hit I found out the Visqueen froze and broke.
I then covered that Visqueen with new, and then covered that with 'Blue Tarp'.
The Visqueen is 'clear and see through' which acts like a thermal furnace and draws moisture inside.
The Blue tarp leaks.
So for strength, rely on the Blue tarp, and for water proofing rely on the Clear Visqueen.
During the day you don't need lights under that pair of tarps.
I also put a Fan out there which ran all winter (after I fixed the tarps) and it was nice n' dry in the spring.
Thnx for the info Thud. I think Visqueen breaks down under UV so we went with the shrink wrap. I'll line the inside with Tyvek. It's white so it'll help with the lighting. It'll also provide some insulation if we heat the shed to work in the winter. The other alternative was to line the inside with Mylar but it's a bit pricey.
Ventilation is also an issue, I'll have two trap doors in the peaks at each end for good flow through.
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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Audrey II
RO# 30499
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 19:12:11
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quote:
Originally posted by carver 2557
How is ya going to cut yer grass with all that crap in the yard?...
he can't cut the grass, he might damage his generator motor:)
Great project I can't wait for more updates and photos. I love a good project but this is way out of my league. Best of luck.
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I just wish common sense was a little more common.
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Homeport: Haverstraw, NY
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carver 2557
RO# 11591
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 19:43:49
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quote:
Originally posted by Audrey II
quote:
Originally posted by carver 2557
How is ya going to cut yer grass with all that crap in the yard?...
he can't cut the grass, he might damage his generator motor:)
So it was Rick that was working on that with Bob..
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Sep 06 2010 : 19:46:33
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Sorry to disappoint you fella's that lawnmower belongs to my deadbeat neighbor. It hasn't moved in two years. He relies on his 80 yr old crippled next door neighbor to cut his lawn without so much as a thankyou! Unlike Bob I'll definitely make it to Block Island someday!
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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amelia
RO# 20462
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Posted - Sep 10 2010 : 08:49:13
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Won't be long before mowing grass isn't a problem in Rick's neighborhood. Hope he has heat in that shed, though.
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Homeport: Edenton, NC
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amelia
RO# 20462
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Posted - Sep 10 2010 : 08:52:04
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And that stack of plywood looks mighty familiar... hope Rick's project goes a lot faster than the one in MY backyard, which seems to involve a large step back for every two small steps forward. Dreams of adventures yet to come keep us going.
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Homeport: Edenton, NC
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Radioactive
RO# 3238
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Posted - Sep 10 2010 : 09:20:33
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My boat plans are still in the thinking stage... I am currently trying to figure out how to convince a Boy/Girl Scout troop to act as boatyard gophers and sanders! ( Actually, Sea Scouts -might- be interested. Hmmmm )
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Bill
"No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Bonzai
"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame |
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Homeport: MS Gulf Coast
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Sep 10 2010 : 09:28:38
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Originally posted by amelia
And that stack of plywood looks mighty familiar... hope Rick's project goes a lot faster than the one in MY backyard, which seems to involve a large step back for every two small steps forward. Dreams of adventures yet to come keep us going.
Yeah it's a common theme with those who want to build their own boats. This one's been a lifelong dream, 7 years in the planning and probably 3-4 till it's done. The steps back and forth are all part of the game. We've taken quite a few back and now we're moving ahead slowly but at least it's in the right direction! Carry on and carry forward!
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Sep 10 2010 : 09:29:16
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Originally posted by Radioactive
My boat plans are still in the thinking stage... I am currently trying to figure out how to convince a Boy/Girl Scout troop to act as boatyard gophers and sanders! ( Actually, Sea Scouts -might- be interested. Hmmmm )
Now there's a good IDEAR! Thnx Bill
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Yours Aye!
Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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For anyone who's built their own boat....
