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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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 Posted - Jul 04 2010 : 23:01:22
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OK WOT she starves for fuel looses power bulb goes soft/flat. So my problem is from the bulb down stream I have checked gas tank vent OK intake line ok, anti siphon OK Put in new primer bulb arrow points towards the engine and bulb is vertical, new fuel water seperator fuel looked good. Had fuel lines checked my mechanic had previously replaced from the bulb to the engine. The crazy thing is I ran all day last week no problem its intermitent. Driving me crazy help.....
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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pdecat
RO# 842
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Posted - Jul 04 2010 : 23:09:00
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you are very close. something is plugging the tank pickup
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Bruce
legal disclaimer;
posts are amateur opinion only and should not be relied on as reasonable, safe, proper or in any way recommended.
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Homeport: Gulf Coast FL
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Radioactive
RO# 3238
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Posted - Jul 04 2010 : 23:12:01
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If the bulb goes flat, and the engine is fuel starved under high flow rates, then the problem is between the fuel in the tank and the bulb ( upstream... ) Somewhere, you have a restriction.
Which means that something got overlooked. Check again.
One possible: tank vent tube has a sag/droop, w/ fluid in the sag.
( and another, as posted above, ) possibly in the pickup tube.
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"No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Bonzai
"There is nothing--absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame |
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Homeport: MS Gulf Coast
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 04 2010 : 23:49:20
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I pulled the pick up tube looks fine doesnt have a screen but she was clear. Thinking I should put in the new fuel lines from the bulb to the tank I dont think they have been replaced.
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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OLD HOUSEBOATER
RO# 9099
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 01:05:14
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Yep fuel line could have a loose liner and sucking shut.
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OLD HOUSEBOATER
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absolute
RO# 31985
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 07:08:16
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I had a customer recently who was having fuel starving issues, what I found in the fuel tank was the foil from under a screw on cap to a bottle of fuel additive that apparently was being sucked up to the pickup but not into the pickup at high rpm's.
Absolute,
"Suckin Sludge & Havin a Gas"
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stmbtwle
RO# 7934
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 07:27:22
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Could also be a stuck antisiphon valve.
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Homeport: Ruskin, FL
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Audrey II
RO# 30499
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 07:43:49
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I just had a similar problem with my dink this past weekend. I disconnected the hose on both ends and found I had a clog at to connection to the tank, just pressing and releasing the push valve a few times seems to have cleared the problem it's been working fine since.
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Don't Worry, Be Happy
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Homeport: Stony Point Bay Marina, Stony Point, NY
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Cam
RO# 1558
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 08:17:20
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quote:
Originally posted by OLD HOUSEBOATER
Yep fuel line could have a loose liner and sucking shut.
+1...
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Homeport: Bentley Yacht Club- Staten Island, NY
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 11:24:43
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The line from my bulb to the engine has been replaced, could the lines from my tank to the fuel water seperator and lines from seperator to the bulb be the issue? Anti siphon has been checked and is fine. Still cant figure why it is intermitten one weekend runs fine then acts up the next and does the exact same thing.
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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D. Andrews
RO# 20354
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 11:30:50
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Yes, your problem is someplace between the fuel in the tank, and the entrance to the bulb. Fuel line is the first suspect, and even if it is not the issue, it is a good maintenance item. They blister inside and form something like a check valve. This is a common thing in both rubber fuel lines, and break/hydro. Try the lines first.........D..........
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liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream
media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up
a turd by the clean end."
Doing what is right is not always easy and doing what is easy is not always right.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
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Homeport: Mississippi
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 11:32:46
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Originally posted by stmbtwle
Could also be a stuck antisiphon valve.
Want to make sure I checked this. The antisiphon valve is like a 90 elbow that comes out of the tank..I thought that they are suppose to have a ball in it. Mine does not. My intake tube was clear. hoping there is nothing in the tank..That will be a nightmare
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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stmbtwle
RO# 7934
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 12:04:35
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If it's intermittent, sounds a lot like something in the tank. (Have fun)
As far as I know the anti-siphon valve is NOT an elbow. Every one I've ever seen looked like an aluminum hose barb  , and screwed INTO the elbow. Yes it should have a ball in it, otherwise it won't do it's job. Could be you don't have one, but a simple hose barb instead.
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Homeport: Ruskin, FL
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JimPend
RO# 5022
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 12:14:27
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The bulb (pump) has two one way valve in it, sounds like one is stuck, replace bulb.
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Sandy
RO# 1159
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 12:23:37
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A lot of O/B boats don't have A/S valves on the tanks because the fuel pump is higher. Some do, some don't.
Pull the pickup and check the filter sock. You might also pull the sender and do a flashlight visual to look for debris that could occasionally cover the pickup sock as mentioned above. Anything in there could be hiding behind a baffle when you look though-they are crefty that way. And try temporarily running with the fill cap off to fully rule out the vent and it's hose.
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 13:35:03
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Originally posted by JimPend
The bulb (pump) has two one way valve in it, sounds like one is stuck, replace bulb.
Replaced the bulb then replaced it again with a Mercury/Quicksliver bulb. Arrow points right direction and is set vertical.
Thanks for everyones input
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 13:36:46
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Originally posted by Sandy
A lot of O/B boats don't have A/S valves on the tanks because the fuel pump is higher. Some do, some don't.
Pull the pickup and check the filter sock. You might also pull the sender and do a flashlight visual to look for debris that could occasionally cover the pickup sock as mentioned above. Anything in there could be hiding behind a baffle when you look though-they are crefty that way. And try temporarily running with the fill cap off to fully rule out the vent and it's hose.
Thats what I was told so I just have a hose barb. I took the cap off when it happened and would think that the bulb would fill back up but didnt. I will try just running with the cap off.
Thanks
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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D. Andrews
RO# 20354
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 13:47:21
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If you took the cap off with it colapsed and it did not go right back out, running with the cap off is a waste of time and not real safe. If the as valve or vent were clogged, when the cap came off the bulb should have poped right out. How, when this happens, are you getting the bulb to come back out? or does it just do it after a little time?........D..........
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"Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical
liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream
media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up
a turd by the clean end."
Doing what is right is not always easy and doing what is easy is not always right.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
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Homeport: Mississippi
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 20:03:47
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Originally posted by D. Andrews
If you took the cap off with it colapsed and it did not go right back out, running with the cap off is a waste of time and not real safe. If the as valve or vent were clogged, when the cap came off the bulb should have poped right out. How, when this happens, are you getting the bulb to come back out? or does it just do it after a little time?........D..........
I throttle down and after a minute or so she eventually is good to go will go up on plane then minute or so happens again. I can putt around 4-6 kts all day its only when I am up on plane and the engine is suck fuel
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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Bt Doctur
RO# 29694
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 21:09:59
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Why not test with a outboard tank plugged into the motor.
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Radioactive
RO# 3238
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Posted - Jul 05 2010 : 22:02:09
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"I throttle down and after a minute or so she eventually is good to go will go up on plane then minute or so happens again. I can putt around 4-6 kts all day its only when I am up on plane and the engine is suck fuel"
To me this is 100% proof of a flow restriction. Either you missed something ( ie: had the wrong filter and replaced w/ the same wrong filter ) or the issue is between the bulb and the fuel in the tank. Complete the inspection/swap-outs/replacements of the rest of the fuel system.
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"No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Bonzai
"There is nothing--absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame |
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D. Andrews
RO# 20354
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Posted - Jul 06 2010 : 05:15:16
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quote:
Originally posted by Radioactive
"I throttle down and after a minute or so she eventually is good to go will go up on plane then minute or so happens again. I can putt around 4-6 kts all day its only when I am up on plane and the engine is suck fuel"
To me this is 100% proof of a flow restriction. Either you missed something ( ie: had the wrong filter and replaced w/ the same wrong filter ) or the issue is between the bulb and the fuel in the tank. Complete the inspection/swap-outs/replacements of the rest of the fuel system.
+1, your answer does not leave much doubt of a restriction.......D..........
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"Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical
liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream
media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up
a turd by the clean end."
Doing what is right is not always easy and doing what is easy is not always right.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
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Homeport: Mississippi
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 06 2010 : 07:00:42
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I will look at the fuel lines from the bulb to the tank tonight and will keep everyone posted. Thanks for the fedback
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 11 2010 : 21:16:04
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I GIVE UP!!!!!.... Changed the bulb, fuel water seperator, checked the gas from the seperator and it looked great no debris, no water I changed the fuel lines from the bulb to the tank seperator and from the seperator to the tank. I checked the pick up tube and took off the gas cap bulb did not come back... I run 7 miles rb2rb2@gr5tgr5t 4500 RPMS nothing, great thought I fixed it... next day same run boom bulb goes flat starving for fuel and it keeps happening. Back down up on plane 2 mins same thing. I am thinking there has to be sommething in my tank that eventually works its way to the intake and blocks it. Once its in that area she keeps dying at high RPMSis HELP dont know whats next but get my tank cleaned. Any ideas how I may be able to check the tank or find this thing that has to be getting caught in the intake
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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KinCal
RO# 15235
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Posted - Jul 11 2010 : 21:56:56
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Did you PULL the pick up tube? Can you get a look into the tank with the pick up pulled? Sure sounds like junk in the tank. Lower the full level in the tank the better to look at and deal with. Of course use all precautions when dealing gas vapor!
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surprise
RO# 7728
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Posted - Jul 12 2010 : 06:08:41
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My old boat (1973 Sea Ray) had something like this going on when I first got her going after a long time up on the hard. The fuel tank, in spite of us having taken it out and cleaning it, still had stuff dissolving into the fuel which was intermittently clogging the pick-up tubes. The boat has twins, hence two pick-ups. What solved the problem was adding screens to the bottom of the pickups, we made them up out of stainless screens (actually the screens were part of a Hilti fastener system used to put fasteners into masonry--like little cylinders, closed on the bottom) and then we used monel rigging wire to fasten them to the copper tubing used for the pick-up tubes. They have been in there for 9 years, no troubles. I believe I also bent the pick-up tubes slightly to raise the pick-up level in the tank a bit. A (much) more expensive alternative would be to replace your tank.
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Homeport: Hayes, Va.
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 12 2010 : 07:30:03
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Pick up tube is clear, I cant see in the tank..Its hard to think I have crap in the tank when the gas in my seperator looked really good..I am thinking there is something piece of ??? that must be the culprit. Can I buy a pick up tube with a screen already on? Will the screen hold the item or will it let loose once it stops sucking fuel. My pick up tube is a hard plastic tube I was thinking if the tube was larger perhaps the item could get sucked into my seperator??
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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JimPend
RO# 5022
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Posted - Jul 12 2010 : 07:46:06
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When you replaced he bulb did you replace it in the right direction, there shoud be an arrow on it, that should be pointed at the engine.
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 12 2010 : 08:06:14
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Yep even made sure it was vertical..
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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marathon man
RO# 23428
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Posted - Jul 12 2010 : 13:47:51
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Is the fuel tank plastic or metal? There are some cases of tanks where after the vent, supply, gauge sender, and filler holes are punched out, the remaining "slugs" are not removed from the tank, and work their way around to block the pick up tube when there is sufficient fuel demand to create "suction", but not when there is very little fuel demand.
One other question, you have repeatedly said you are making sure that the bulb is vertical, but most of the ones I've had and/or worked on were horizontal, as in laying on the back deck or laying in the splash well, and to my knowledge that has not caused any problems for those boats, so I am wondering about why the vertical placement?
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Homeport: Ketchum, Grand Lake O' The Cherokees
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Radioactive
RO# 3238
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Posted - Jul 12 2010 : 15:11:51
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Not trying to irritate you but here is how it seems to me:
Whatever is happening, it MUST occur "prior" to the bulb.
Going from the bulb and headed "upstream", you have the following "points of interest"
one way valve at bulb
hose from bulb to fuel filter
filter
hose to tank pickup
tank pickup
"stuff" floating in fuel
collapsed( or blocked w/ bug doodoo or a sag w/ fuel ) vent hose
One or more of these items is "not right".
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The item that most bothers me in this system is the fuel filter/separator located between the tank and the bulb. An undersized capacity filter will cause this problem. As will the wrong filter in the "right" housing. Plus, visual inspection of a filter element does not always ensure that the filter is fine. Sometimes they are clogged and look just fine.
In any event, perhaps is a good time to have someone else go through the section in question. Sometimes we "get too close" to an issue, and just keep on making the same mistake, or overlooking the same thing. ( I know this from experience ). Another set of hands and eyes may be the next step. It is why there are proof readers and QC folks...
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"No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Bonzai
"There is nothing--absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame |
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absolute
RO# 31985
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Posted - Jul 12 2010 : 16:42:39
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A...101, what's the latest? Have you found what's in the tank causing the primer ball to go flat?
Absolute,
"Suckin Sludge & Havin a Gas"
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D. Andrews
RO# 20354
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Posted - Jul 12 2010 : 17:13:08
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Ok, how about this, go to the store, buy a small portable tank, disconect the fuel line as it enters the tank and cap the tank off, then run it on the small portable and see what happens, this will eliminate the tank or confirm the tank one of the two. Also, this boat hasn't been repowered with a bigger motor has it?......D.......
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"Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical
liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream
media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up
a turd by the clean end."
Doing what is right is not always easy and doing what is easy is not always right.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
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Homeport: Mississippi
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 12 2010 : 18:20:47
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Great feedback. Here are some answers. I have had this boat for 5 yrs, I have used the same size fuel water seperator repowered 3 yrs ago w/ same size engine. My concern about using a portable tank is that I have run 20 miles round trip no problems then she will act up the next day and when she acts up it will be very consistent up on plane 1 min or so boggs down starves for fuel. Idle a few minutes and repeat. The tank is aluminum
Any ideas about a screen for my pick up tube or larger pick up tube that perhaps can either get the item stuck or suck it through to the seperator or where I can remove it. It sounds like it may be time to call a mobile marine mechanic...
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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KinCal
RO# 15235
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Posted - Jul 12 2010 : 18:33:17
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I would'nt call a mech just yet as he/she will be doing the same things you are doing. I see some plastic pick up tubes with a plastic screen on them. Does the pick up tube screw into a fitting on top of the tank or is it mounted in a plate that you can remove. Fitting a stainless screen onto the pickup would no be hard if you can get it into the tank. I would be very hesitant to try to suck it out of the tank with the fuel system as it may well lodge in the lines before it gets to the filter.
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D. Andrews
RO# 20354
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Posted - Jul 12 2010 : 19:01:00
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I with Kerry, dont call just yet. If it is an alum tank, and a plastic pickup, you probably have a bong on top of the tank or something similiar that comes off. I tend to agree there is something in the tank, if this were my boat, I would pull the pick up out and look down in there with a flash light and see what is there. You might concider going to a parts store and getting a screen filter for an in tank electric fuel pump for a car. They are small and can be wire tied or clamped in place, and cover the end of the pick up with it. I would not try to suck it into the filter, could be more trouble than it's worth. Hopefully you will see what ever gum wrapper or piece of cap seal is in there and can grab it...........D...............
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"Political Correctness is a doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical
liberal minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream
media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up
a turd by the clean end."
Doing what is right is not always easy and doing what is easy is not always right.
The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
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realrez
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Posted - Jul 12 2010 : 21:37:16
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Sounds like you have something in your tank. Have you pissed anyone off lately?
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 13 2010 : 20:40:36
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Do you think the item will stickto the screen even after i shut her down and pull the pick up tube out. I keep thinking after the need to stop sucking fuel it will fall back into the tank. The only access I can see into the tank is through the pick up tube opening about an inch. I will give both recs a try. Any suggestions n perhaps getting a serious pump to try and pump out the fuel and also grab the object
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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The Other Gary
RO# 143
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Posted - Jul 13 2010 : 20:48:51
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Did you check your antisyphon fitting at the tank.
It only takes a little corrosion to make it sticky.
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 13 2010 : 21:27:43
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Actually does not have anti siphon just a barb into the hose from the intake. Apparently Mercury does not reccomend an anti siphon fitting
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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realrez
RO# 5522
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Posted - Jul 13 2010 : 21:28:59
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you should have a cutout where the sender is
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The Other Gary
RO# 143
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Posted - Jul 13 2010 : 22:52:55
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If you have a built in tank you will have an antisyphon fitting as it is a USCG requirement, not a Mercury choice.
They are often barbed and look like a plain barbed fitting on top of the tank where the fuel hose attaches. They are usually aluminum and have a stainless ball and spring inside. Moisture will cause the dissimilar metals to corrode and the ball travel is restricted sometimes causing the symptoms you describe. It is one of the first things I would be looking at with ethanol fuels.
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Sandy
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Posted - Jul 13 2010 : 23:26:20
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Actually Gary, I believe the requirement for A/S valve (or as below) is only for insttallations where the fuel line dips below the top of the tank on it's way to the fuel pump. More specifically:
FEDERAL LAW
183.568 - Anti-siphon protection
Each fuel line from the fuel tank to the fuel inlet connection on the carburetor must:
(a) Be above the level of the tank top; or
(b) Have an anti-siphon device or an electrically operated fuel stop valve:
(1) At the tank withdrawal fitting; or
(2) Installed so the line from the fuel tank is above the top of the tank; or
(c) Provided that the fuel tank top is below the level of the carburetor inlet, be metallic fuel lines meeting the construction requirements of Sec. 183.538 or “USCG Type A1” hose, with one or two manual shutoff valves installed as follows:
(1) Directly at the fuel tank connection arranged to be readily accessible for operation from outside the compartment, and
(2) If the length of fuel line from the tank outlet to the engine inlet is greater than 12 feet, a manual shutoff valve shall be installed at the fuel inlet connection to the engine.
Some O/B boats have one even if not required, to minimize drainback. My old O/B Sea Craft had one in spite of hoses routed above. .
Aquaholic- At this point you may do well to go ahead and remove the gauge sender and start pumping gas from the bottom of that area and habve it flow back into the deck fill in continuos loop after flowing through a strainer funnel or similar. If possible use a larger dia hose into the sender hole and if it clogs pull it out with continued suction .
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 14 2010 : 07:37:23
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Yeah I pulled the barb there is no ball in there. Thanks Sandy it looks like that is my next option...
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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stmbtwle
RO# 7934
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Posted - Jul 14 2010 : 10:03:10
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Depending on the amount of the fuel in the tank, I'd pump it into another container (through the strainer as above) and when you got all out that you can, lower a chem-light into the tank and LOOK.
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Homeport: Ruskin, FL
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KinCal
RO# 15235
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Posted - Jul 14 2010 : 19:18:02
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Very unlikely that you can get much of anything to stay on a pick up tube screen with no fuel being drawn through. Ditto Sandy's advice IF the gauge float is in the same area (baffle wise) as the pick up tube. Sure sounds like there is something being sucked onto the pick-up tube and blocking it. Unless there is a bunch of junk in the tank the pick up screen will keep the offending item off the end of the pick up and you'll be OK. Since your not picking up a bunch of crud in your filter a screen should fix the problem.
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absolute
RO# 31985
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Posted - Jul 14 2010 : 19:41:23
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Aquaholic101...
I may be going to Miami next week, traveling down I-75 from St Petersburgs, wouldn't be out of my way that much to stop by and put a scope in the tank. Let me know so I can schedule if need be.
Absolute,
"Suckin Sludge & Havin a Gas"
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 15 2010 : 19:39:46
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Absolute, That is very nice. Does this mean you would be able to see in the tank to see what the culprit is?
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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D. Andrews
RO# 20354
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Posted - Jul 15 2010 : 19:43:15
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If he has a scope, then yes he can put it through the fill neck and look in it. A screen from a car electric in tank fuel pump, like 4 bucks, clamped to the end of the pick up should stop this........D..........
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Homeport: Mississippi
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marathon man
RO# 23428
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Posted - Jul 15 2010 : 20:57:49
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Some tanks only have a very small opening where the tube enters the tank, and there is not enough room to put anything like a screen or mesh sock onto the pickup with clamps, and still get it back in the tank. But, if his has room, that may be a solution.
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Homeport: Ketchum, Grand Lake O' The Cherokees
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Aquaholic101
RO# 17202
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Posted - Jul 16 2010 : 14:50:54
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The opening where the tube enters my tank is very small, I cant see how I can get a screen ,clamp on my tube and still get it in. I have resorted in having a tank cleaning company come over on Monday to suck whatever the culprit is. If they dont find anything I will go postal... I appreciate evryones suggestions at least I tried...
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Homeport: Charlotte Harbor, FL
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Primer bulb flat and I have tried everything
