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Alex F
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 Posted - Jul 16 2010 : 14:50:30
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I’m looking to do a cruise to LI for the first time and I’m planning to go from Manasquan Inlet straight to the Fire Island Inlet. I was hoping to hear some suggestion or things to watch out for in the Fire Island Inlet. I’ve herd that it’s shallow and can be rough at times. Is it well marked at this time in the season?
Is there a point where I have to bailout due to seas condition and use alternative route, another words if let’s say we have 4’-5’ seas in the ocean can I still approach the inlet or it’s too dangerous at this point?
What would be a good alternative (my first stop in LI is West Hampton), Jones Inlet?
Thanks,
Alex.
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Homeport: NJ
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CurrentSea
RO# 10265
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Posted - Jul 17 2010 : 07:03:47
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If your going to Westhampton, you can consider Moriches Inlet.
its gotten alot better and may be better than Fire Island Inlet.
You should mark waypoints for all inlets starting with East Rockaway.
Though if you commit to a straight line, East Rockaway may not be a option.
I think your best bet may be moriches, but I will let other chime in.
If you can, hit the inlets at high slack tide.
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Alex F
RO# 31675
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Posted - Jul 17 2010 : 07:57:07
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I had herd that CG advises not to use Moriches, so I didn't even consider this option. That's an interesting news that MI is better than FII.
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CurrentSea
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Posted - Jul 17 2010 : 08:03:49
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I believe MI is still considered unnavigable by CG.
I am sure someone will chime in who goes in and out of it but when we went thru it, it was fine.
Its well marked and because it is tighter, seems like a easier line in.
Fire Island inlet your like running up to the beach with waves pushing behind you, not fun.
I think your choice of inlet may depend on the tide and wind. If the wind is out of the west then Moriches is not bad, if its out of the east, then it can get nasty, I think. I have only been thru once with west wind and it was fine.
Fire Island inlet if there is a strong south wind, it will push you with swells that could be breaking in the inlet!
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Homeport: Anchorage YC - Lindenhurst, NY
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pdecat
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Posted - Jul 17 2010 : 13:16:09
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always try to enter on the flood
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Bruce
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Homeport: Gulf Coast FL
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BillyK
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Posted - Jul 17 2010 : 15:32:58
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Go in Jones inlet and down the state channel to Lindenhurst cut into the bay. Nice easy ride after that. No pressure. Maybe 45 minutes longer ride.
Billy K.
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Homeport: Patchogue, N.Y.
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Alex F
RO# 31675
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Posted - Jul 18 2010 : 06:58:27
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quote:
Originally posted by BillyK
Go in Jones inlet and down the state channel to Lindenhurst cut into the bay. Nice easy ride after that. No pressure. Maybe 45 minutes longer ride.
Billy K.
AS I see the distance between JI and FI is about 20 miles. How's the ride in the ICW between them? IS it well marked, is there a lot of no-wake zones?
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Homeport: NJ
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billybokay
RO# 18354
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Posted - Jul 18 2010 : 11:22:42
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I believe that if an inlet is categorized as non navigable by the coast guard and you have problems, your insurance company will not pay any claims. I also believe Moriches inlet is not considered a navigable inlet.
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Liquid Diet 2
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Posted - Jul 18 2010 : 16:36:10
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The Moriches Inlet was dredged a couple years ago. I go in and out it all the time. I've even done the Moriches to Manasquan and back a few times. The key to the Moriches is stay right down the middle. Plenty of water, don't sweat it. The issue used to be shoaling at the entrance but it's been cleared.
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BillyK
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Posted - Jul 19 2010 : 07:54:15
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I came in Jones inlet yesterday. It and the state channel are well marked. There are a few 5 mph/no wake areas to deal with and have a green fly swatter handy. I don't know about Fire Island inlet issues but I know hitting bottom in an inlet with rollers following you could be a disaster. If the choice is between the two use Jones. If as Liquid Diet says Moriches is marked and good to use I would definately go in Moriches. Maybe Liquid or someone could post a chart of Moriches and the track they use to take some of the unknown out of the trip. Good luck and have a good time.
Billy K.
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pdecat
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Posted - Jul 19 2010 : 12:26:23
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Liquid, be nice if you defined "plenty of water"
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CurrentSea
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Posted - Jul 19 2010 : 15:22:45
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Bruce,
Up here more that 6 feet is plenty of water. Fire Island inlet at low tide you will see 3 to 4 feet. Still enough but not fun. Moriches is deeper than that.
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HIGHLIFEII
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Posted - Jul 20 2010 : 08:08:38
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Last couple weeks in & out FI inlet, right betwen the bouys, never saw less than 9ft.
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Homeport: Lindenhurst, NY
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Alex F
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Posted - Jul 20 2010 : 16:14:23
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Originally posted by HIGHLIFEII
Last couple weeks in & out FI inlet, right betwen the bouys, never saw less than 9ft.
That's great news! Did you note if it was during low or high tide?
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Alex F
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Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 16:07:44
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Originally posted by CurrentSea
Bruce,
Up here more that 6 feet is plenty of water. Fire Island inlet at low tide you will see 3 to 4 feet. Still enough but not fun. Moriches is deeper than that.
I spoke with FI CG and they said the same thing. Not a good news, but it is what it is. At this time I'm thinking Jones Inlet as the best option. It has 8-9' of water and then I'll have scenic route easbound (at least this will keep admiral happy).
CG told me that Moriches is better option over FI since it has 8-9' during low tide. When approaching the inlet stay to port and look for the west channel to avoid running into shoaling right before the entrance (few hundred feet before the inlet). The channel is well marked, so I was told.
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JohnC
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Posted - Jul 21 2010 : 23:48:22
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I was with HighLife on one of those trips, we were about midway through the tide. Didn't seem to be any issues.
As far as Moriches I went through on a friend's boat last year and while we had plenty of water until we got inside (even with a 5'2" draft), but nothing was marked and I'm not sure I'd recommend it to someone not familiar with the inlet. We were given the "run right through the middle" advice but then saw breaking waves right in the center just outside the inlet and it was a calm day. We watched the boat traffic and saw that everyone was sticking to the west side so did that and was fine.
John
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