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PascalG
RO# 12212
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 Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 17:36:34
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I'm pretty sure I saw her in Nantucket earlier this season, she is one gorgeous sailboat!
but... shouldn't Mr Kerry pay taxes to the good people of Massachusetts? another democrypt...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38378992/ns/politics/
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
2007 Sandbarhopper 13
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Capt. Bill1
RO# 2017
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 17:39:53
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At least it's US flagged.
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The two most common elements on Earth are oxygen and stupidity.
Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics.
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L. Keith
RO# 1615
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 18:03:13
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If what he is doing is legal, then nothing wrong with it. As Bill says at least it is US Flag and the crew will have to be US Licensed. Didn't Florida pass a similar law capping the maximum sales tax on a Yacht purchase at somewhere around $85,000.00 (US)?
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 18:15:36
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As much as I have to admit I don't like John Kerry if what he is doing is legal what is the big deal? What I don't like is the demonization of anyone with earned money,(Kerry's wife). I remember the TARP protests seeing posters in the crowd saying sell your Yacht! My understanding was the vessel was made in Austrailia so much for buying American. Correction built in New Zealand.
The CEO of BP was chastised for being on his Yacht recently.
Bill
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Paul Isaac
RO# 12068
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 18:19:02
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quote:
Originally posted by L. Keith
If what he is doing is legal, then nothing wrong with it. (US)?
Really?
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Capt. Bill1
RO# 2017
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 18:45:20
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Isn't Charmer registered in R.I.?
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The two most common elements on Earth are oxygen and stupidity.
Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics.
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Radioactive
RO# 3238
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 18:46:29
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If what he is doing is "according to the rules" then I have no problem with it. ( It is common for "expensive" boat owners to do a bit of gymnastics to reduce costs ). If it really bothers you, then work to get the rules changed.
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"No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Bonzai
"There is nothing--absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame |
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Capt. Bill1
RO# 2017
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 19:03:40
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Besides, as some one who makes their living in the yachting industry, I'm all for anything that gets and keeps more yachts US registered.
It's called the trickle down theory. Some of you may have heard of it.
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The two most common elements on Earth are oxygen and stupidity.
Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics.
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stmbtwle
RO# 7934
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 19:13:17
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The boat's in Rhode Island, he's paying taxes in Rhode Island; at least through his slip rent. So what's the problem???
At least it's US flagged, and presumably US crewed. Which is more than we can say of any number of cruise ships that are more than happy to take our money.
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In the know
RO# 20824
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 19:15:40
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Kerry is doing nothing wrong. RI marinas are littered with boats that RI registered and based by residents of other states. RI is crystal clear on the matter - if your principal moorage is in RI waters, then you should be a RI registered vessel - and RI is a no sales tax state.
Heck my marina alone has high dollar boats from people that live in Boston suberbs and even Vermont - all of these people are doing nothing illegal, or wrong.
If Kerry pays for and keeps his boat in Newport, then so be it, and he should not have to pay taxes.
Now, that is not to say that the "system" or privilage does not get abused and some boats may use a RI hailing port as a "convenience"
in the case of Kerry though, he appears to be within the letter of the rules, and not just using it as a convenience.
Here is a link to the law and RI DEM homepage
http://www.dem.ri.gov/programs/bpoladm/manserv/hfb/boating/boatfaq.htm
Now, that is to say that
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mandm1200
RO# 29581
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 19:38:00
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quote:
Originally posted by PascalG
another democrypt...
Seems the OP, PascalG, has an axe to grind. John Kerry is doing nothing illegal. There have been threads on boatered about this same thing; how to avoid paying taxes and still comply with law. John Kerry, as well as many others, choose where to keep their boat.
Is this boating related or is it someome just someone, PascalG, pointing a finger at a Democrat without doing any research to see if any Republican has taken advantage of tax laws. A simple google search will show this is not just one politician using legal laws to only pay for his fair share of taxes.
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sortie
RO# 2043
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 19:58:50
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Certaintly, not illegal,however, seeing as he is the senior senator from Mass. In addition, being the great liberal for the people etc. it just kind of flies in the face of his off stated view of being concerned for the little guy.
John
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 20:03:21
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well, it is boating related because it is a very beautiful boat.
i just can't help noticing the hypocrisy of a life long democrat senator who ran for president as a democrat, defender of the poors etc.. who is obviously supportive of his home state tax laws but then decides to use a loophole and save 1/2M dollars in taxes.
John Kerry is not just a regular citizen... he is not jsut a boat owner, he is a UNITED STATES SENATOR, shoudn't he be held to a higher standard? and yes, the boat is US flagged but not even built here! and this US Senator, former presidential candidate is supposedly supportive of US workers?
are there no quality yards in this country that can built quality sailing yachts?
are we just so immune to career politicians being just that, career politicians and total hypocrits?
and yes, I think that the same logic should apply to any elected officials, it's not about politics, it's about respecting the American people and not taking their vote for granted.
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
2007 Sandbarhopper 13
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In the know
RO# 20824
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 20:19:20
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Lets see, he has a choice of sailing in Boston or Newport.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm tough decision - no taxes and better waters to sail in.
Seems your hung up on the political angle and not seeing the practical reality angle here.
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mandm1200
RO# 29581
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 20:47:41
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quote:
Originally posted by PascalG
well, it is boating related because it is a very beautiful boat.
That was not your original intent. Saying some guy has a nice boat, in which it is, and then going on to say "democrypt" shows that this is not about a boat but about your personal dislike of someone affiliated with the Democratic party. Take it to NBR.
quote:
Originally posted by PascalG
i just can't help noticing the hypocrisy of a life long democrat senator who ran for president as a democrat, defender of the poors etc.. who is obviously supportive of his home state tax laws but then decides to use a loophole and save 1/2M dollars in taxes.
So what did he do that was different than other law abiding boat owners did? Did he make the law so that he could save 1/2 million?
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Originally posted by PascalG
John Kerry is not just a regular citizen... he is not jsut a boat owner, he is a UNITED STATES SENATOR, shoudn't he be held to a higher standard?.
As far as I am concerned, he should be held in the same standard. He is no better than me. The same laws should apply equally to both of us.
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rtribble
RO# 15208
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 21:09:38
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I live in Oklahoma but keep our boat in Arkansas and pay tax's on it there also. I don't see any difference in my case verses his, I perfer to keep my boat in a different state as does Mr. Kerry. As far as "built in the USA", you would be very hard pressed to buy a boat of any size that was totally built in this country or much of anything else for that matter.
While I can agree that Mr. Kerry has a beautiful boat, I think the bases of this topic was politically motivated as the use of the term "another democrypt" clearly illustrates and is not appropriate outside the NBR forum.
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Don B
RO# 11333
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 21:10:40
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compared to all of the Corporations that incorporate in Delaware to save taxes, then the tax on that boat don't even count...
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CapnJakVa
RO# 2192
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 21:12:59
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If Kerry was looking for a loophole to save money, he found a very small one in Rhode Island. Take a look sometime at yachts in the marinas that cater to expensive yachts up and down the East Coast. Most of these yachts are owned by US based businesses or wealthy US Citizens. These yachts must come from the shipyard with either "Wilmington, De." or "Nassau, Bahamas" already stenciled on the transom. All the owner has to do is fill in the vessel name and save a bundle. The government makes the rules, they and the rest of us just play by them as best we can.
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 21:27:06
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hey, if you guys thinks it's ok for politicians to be such hypocrites... go ahead! reelect those clowns come november.... oh well after all Ted the Killer Kennedy was reelected for a quarter century.
doens't have anything to do with democrats or republicans.
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
2007 Sandbarhopper 13
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adru
RO# 19517
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 21:53:46
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Trolling is also a boating related subject:)
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boatbum
RO# 36
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 22:03:30
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Having paid 17k in taxes on our boat, I find it pretty sour when anyone registers their boat other than the home port to avoid taxes.
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Capt. Bill1
RO# 2017
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 22:22:34
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quote:
Originally posted by PascalG
hey, if you guys thinks it's ok for politicians to be such hypocrites... go ahead! reelect those clowns come november.... oh well after all Ted the Killer Kennedy was reelected for a quarter century.
doens't have anything to do with democrats or republicans.
You mean other than the fact that you keep using Dems as examples? :-)
So Charmer is registered in R.I. and the owner resides, where?
But I do see your point. It does look bad in a sense. But again he is only taking advantage of a loop hole that is available to any other US citizen.
That does not bother me in the least compared to the fact the he and every other Senator and Congressmen gets free health care for the rest of their lives. While many are telling us we can't have it.
That is a true example of hypocrisy.
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The two most common elements on Earth are oxygen and stupidity.
Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics.
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PeteMrrs
RO# 4125
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 22:35:29
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Although the Senator is not doing anything illegal, he certainly is being a hypocrite. He is probably responsible for passing more tax raising legislation than any politician in America over the course of his career, yet he avoids paying his fair share whenever possible.
Not the best of PR decisions.
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Hyperfishing
RO# 3223
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 23:02:58
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Mr. Rangel is also a Democrat in favor of low/avoided taxes on himself, high taxes on everyone else. They are special people.
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Capt. Bill1
RO# 2017
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Posted - Jul 23 2010 : 23:13:25
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"He is probably responsible for passing more tax raising legislation than any politician in America over the course of his career, yet he avoids paying his fair share whenever possible."
He alone is responsible for passing the majority of legislation leading to tax increases? Site please?
Wait, never mind. Just get it over with and move this to NBR.
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The two most common elements on Earth are oxygen and stupidity.
Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics.
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seahawk215
RO# 15005
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 01:46:32
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The clique over on NBR can’t get any responses so they have to keep trying over here. There new slogan is kind of like a JETS fan saying just wait till next year they are saying wait till November.
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Randy Arline
1986 Chris Craft
360 Commander
Miss KimberLeighann
1971 Boston Whaler 13'
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seahawk215
RO# 15005
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 03:15:01
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quote:
Originally posted by Capt. Bill1
Isn't Charmer registered in R.I.?
It would appear so.
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Randy Arline
1986 Chris Craft
360 Commander
Miss KimberLeighann
1971 Boston Whaler 13'
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MikeeH
RO# 6342
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 05:30:43
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Seahawk..
Still have a reading comprejension problem I see. How many of the "clique" posting here support Pascal's position? How many posts here support Kerry's position on this issue? Try reading and thinking about what you read before you reach for the keyboard.
Now, to the issue in the original post. Yes, Kerry's home state is MA; no argument about that. The vessel, however, is reported as having Newport, RI as its homeport and we read that its actually berthed there. Add to that, Newport is one of the two recognized "sailing capitals" of the U.S. (Annapolis, MD being the other) so its not like its registered in Wilmington, DE where you're lucky to sail to on a Sunfish, the Christiana River being the creek that it is. So, while I dislike Kerry's politics I think its a stretch to call him a hypocrite for declaring the homeport for his beautiful sailing vessel in beautiful Newport, RI.... the other sailing capital of the U.S. (you reading and understanding me, seahawk?? Take a breath and try.) Isabelle may even be registered to a private corporation if its a charter vessel.
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He’s one of those who knows that life
Is just a leap of faith;
Spread your arms and hold you breath;
Always trust your cape. Guy Clark
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In the know
RO# 20824
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 06:33:27
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quote:
Originally posted by boatbum
Having paid 17k in taxes on our boat, I find it pretty sour when anyone registers their boat other than the home port to avoid taxes.
You are missing the point, as is Pascal.
Newport IS the homeport for Kerry's vessel. The boat is registered in the state that it should be.
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 06:39:54
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Look Pascal I will say it again I can't stand Kerry, however I don't feel he or his wife's corp. are doing anything wrong when it comes to the boat and as ITK put it, the vessel's home port.
Bill
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 06:46:15
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quote:
Originally posted by Hyperfishing
Mr. Rangel is also a Democrat in favor of low/avoided taxes on himself, high taxes on everyone else. They are special people.
Chris as usual you are in left field, Wrangle is charged with tax evasion Kerry is not charged with anything.
What does this have to do with Kerry's boat and where it is moored?
Bill
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seahawk215
RO# 15005
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 06:57:01
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Mike, was it the clique comment (or are you a JETS fan) that got your panties in a wad?
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Randy Arline
1986 Chris Craft
360 Commander
Miss KimberLeighann
1971 Boston Whaler 13'
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talexander38
RO# 31109
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 06:58:04
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The folks in MAss have to put up with Kerry. I don't see anything wrong with it. I understand both sides of this but the law is the law.
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seahawk215
RO# 15005
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 07:49:08
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Bill you know this thread was started as a political sided thread as others have pointed out and as the OP’s comments showed. It was posted here to get a political response because in NBR the Republicans respond to most political threads.
Show me where I said the posts here don’t support the vessel being registered in RI. I do and I would do the same if I was in his situation.
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1986 Chris Craft
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Miss KimberLeighann
1971 Boston Whaler 13'
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 08:15:05
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Randy I corrected my post.
Bill
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Goat Locker
RO# 29912
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 08:16:51
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Pascal, even if you did not intend this to be a political thread it does in fact have the appearance as such. I do see the hyprocracy of Kerry not paying his taxes since he is a US Senator however, nothing wrong here. If I could avoid 500k in taxes I sure the heck would. Also it kinda sounds like this really is a sailing port so it would make sense to be home ported there.
Randy - you didnt specifically state that they do not support the vessel being registered in RI. However your first comment regarging the "Republicans" shows exactly were you wanted it to go. You also are guilty of trying to get a political response.
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 09:24:58
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Goat Locker, that's where I was going with Randy's post. However I decided to not put words in my post he didn't write, hence my corrected post.
Bill
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MikeeH
RO# 6342
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 10:15:22
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Seahawk,
"Mike, was it the clique comment (or are you a JETS fan) that got your panties in a wad?"
That question is too stupid to even deserve an answer. You really do have a reading comprehension problem!!
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Mike
He’s one of those who knows that life
Is just a leap of faith;
Spread your arms and hold you breath;
Always trust your cape. Guy Clark
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dougs2452
RO# 17057
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 10:40:40
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yeah mike everyone knows your an eagles fan right
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Planeguy
RO# 1963
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 15:41:22
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I think most people are missing the point. Is what John Kerry is doing illegal...No, but then again he is the guy that talks all about tax cuts for the rich. Well whom else but a "rich" person could afford a boat that the taxes alone are $500,000? He is also on of the Washington fools that has input in to what the average person pays in taxes. Illegal, no, just not right...I thank so!
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L. Keith
RO# 1615
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 16:27:02
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When did it become news that US Senators are multi-millionaires and that politicians are hypocrites. I have never voted for John Kerry, but I have voted for Thad Cochran and I did hold my nose and vote for Trent a few times. I admire Kerry's taste in boats, Teddy also had good taste in boats. This is an issue for the good people of Massachusetts to decide. Baseball's not fair, why should life be fair.
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rtribble
RO# 15208
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 18:55:35
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Lets get off all the political smearing and leave that for the NBR forum and focus on the portion of this topic that warrants discussion on this forum and that is the beautiful boat Pascal referenced.
It is a Friendship 75 designed by Ted Fontaine out of Rhode Island. Ted Fontaine worked with Ted Hood in boat design for 20 years or so and knows what a sailboat should look and perform like. The Friendship 75 is the largest of the Friendship line and Isabel was built in New Zealand by friendship Yachts and sold in Rhode Island.
The beauty and workmanship of this boat are beyond question among the best of the best and whatever one may think of Mr. Kerry on a personal level, his taste in boats is beyond reproach as is his choice in the Hinckley Shipyard in Rhode Island for the "extensive maintenance" referenced in the article. In a sailors world there is no question the boat is in the best place it could be in.
If you haven't taken the opportunity to look at this boat on Friendship Yachts web site yet it's worth the look.
Beautiful boat.
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Capt. Bill1
RO# 2017
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 19:21:25
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quote:
Originally posted by Planeguy
I think most people are missing the point. Is what John Kerry is doing illegal...No, but then again he is the guy that talks all about tax cuts for the rich. Well whom else but a "rich" person could afford a boat that the taxes alone are $500,000? He is also on of the Washington fools that has input in to what the average person pays in taxes. Illegal, no, just not right...I thank so!
So he's against tax cuts for the rich. But as a rich person he avoids paying taxes when he can.
Sounds like he's just trying to break even to me.
Can't fault him for that. :-)
Oh yeah, and it is one beautiful boat.
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The two most common elements on Earth are oxygen and stupidity.
Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics.
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mandm1200
RO# 29581
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 20:22:12
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I went back to the original post. The lead in was 'gorgeous sailboat!' After that it was a political statement. Just look at the link that PascalG's referenced to.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38378992/ns/politics/ Notice that it ends in politics. I'm sure if his motive was about the boat he would have linked a site showing pictures and information about this sailboat. In my opinion, this is not about a gorgeous sailboat; only a Democrat hater. Just suppose a Senator's home state did not have access to either coast and he purchased a boat such as this one. Is he morally required to register it in his home state and then run into legal issues because it is moored in another state?
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Paul Isaac
RO# 12068
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 20:27:09
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Some of you folks need to get a life.
He expressed a political statement........so what..............agree or disagree, life goes on.
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mandm1200
RO# 29581
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 21:33:48
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quote:
Originally posted by Paul Isaac
Some of you folks need to get a life.
He expressed a political statement........so what..............agree or disagree, life goes on.
I agree this was a political statement and had nothing to do about about boating. I also agree that people, especailly the OP, should get a life and not try to paint a Senator as someone who is breaking the law or is trying to avoid paying taxes.
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Homeport: Lewisberry, PA
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dancerscap
RO# 20150
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Posted - Jul 24 2010 : 22:46:29
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Me, too Pascal.quote:
Originally posted by PascalG
well, it is boating related because it is a very beautiful boat.
i just can't help noticing the hypocrisy of a life long democrat senator who ran for president as a democrat, defender of the poors etc.. who is obviously supportive of his home state tax laws but then decides to use a loophole and save 1/2M dollars in taxes.
John Kerry is not just a regular citizen... he is not jsut a boat owner, he is a UNITED STATES SENATOR, shoudn't he be held to a higher standard? and yes, the boat is US flagged but not even built here! and this US Senator, former presidential candidate is supposedly supportive of US workers?
are there no quality yards in this country that can built quality sailing yachts?
are we just so immune to career politicians being just that, career politicians and total hypocrits?
and yes, I think that the same logic should apply to any elected officials, it's not about politics, it's about respecting the American people and not taking their vote for granted.
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Homeport: Hudson,Fl.
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CPSS
RO# 13031
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Posted - Jul 26 2010 : 11:05:26
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"If the Isabel were kept at the 2008 Democratic presidential nominee's summer vacation home on Nantucket or in Boston Harbor near his city residence, he would be liable for $437,500 in one-time sales tax. He would also have to pay $70,000 in annual excise taxes."
I agree with Pascal, if it were just a normal boat owner, there would not be a problem. He's a US SENATOR, from the state he is trying to screw out of the taxes!
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Homeport: Clifton Park, NY
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In the know
RO# 20824
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Posted - Jul 26 2010 : 11:17:35
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So, using the logic of some here, Senators and all politicians should be forced to keep their boats in the states in which they reside and not have the same choice as the rest of the population to keep their boat where they want to?
Geesh, and some say Kerry is a hypocrit?
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Homeport: The Ocean State
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rtribble
RO# 15208
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Posted - Jul 26 2010 : 13:12:22
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The political part of this topic really does belong on NBR, but since the moderator of this forum doesn't seem inclined to enforce this rule put in place by the anchored RO's I guess we all can discuss whatever we want as long as we boat somewhere in the topic.
So OK when it comes to politicians, whether they own a boat or not, I don't think one party holds any kind of advantage over the other when it comes to morality or ethics.
What Mr. Kerry is doing may or may not be ethical, but it is legal. Why waste so much time on such a trivial issue when we have so many past and current political issues that have not yet been properly addressed? Have we all forgotten how this Country got into such a sorry state?
Have we forgotten that we entered into a preemptive war against a foreign country based on that Administrations purposely manipulated intelligence to give the American public along with our Senate false impressions of the dangers posed to our country to justify that Administration taking us to war for what I can only conclude was control of Iraq's oil reserves profits. This resulted in an unwarranted war that cost us thousands of our young soldiers lives and took away our initiative to continue after those who did attack our Country possibly depriving us of getting the person responsible for this attack on our Country.
In my entire life I have never been witness to such an atrocity conspired and implemented against our Country by our own administration and until the full weight of justice is brought to bear against those responsible for perpetrating this unprecedented damning mark on our great Countries history I can only label as hypocrites those who for political, ideological or whatever reasons choose to continue to accept this terrible injustice perpetrated against our great Country while at the same time continuing in their petty little political games.
I too believe that all politicians should be held to the highest level of the law if they violate the public trust of that office (whether they retain that office or not) up to and including war crimes.
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Homeport: Beaver Lake Arkansas
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Capt. Bill1
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gorgeous boat, but shoulnd't the owner....
