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Frank_J
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 Posted - Jul 26 2010 : 17:40:27
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Originally posted by rtribble
Have we forgotten that we entered into a preemptive war against a foreign country based on ...
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force; if necessary ; to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.
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rtribble
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Posted - Jul 26 2010 : 20:07:41
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Yes Frank, as I've already stated earlier the the American public along with our Senate were basing their judgements to invade Iraq on intelligence provided by the Bush administration that was manipulated, altered and knowingly faulty by the Bush administration in order to sell the invasion of Iraq. While the investigative reports stopped short of stating the Bush administration lied to the Senate and American public about their claims of justification for invading Iraq, it is pretty much clear that the reports substantiate the Bush administration knew the claims were unjustified and that the Bush administration did contrive, manipulate, withhold and use strong arm tactics to alter the intelligence that was reported to our Senate in order to gain their support in authorizing the invasion. History will at least be pretty much clear on that point. What the investigative reports failed to pursue to conclusion was what the Bush administrations true motives were for wanting to invade Iraq were. (Personally, after looking at the extremes the Bush administration went in order to control and manipulate the facts supporting Iraq's invasion up to and including the "outing" of an active CIA operative I would have no difficulty in calling the Bush administration a pack of liars and responsible for the deaths of thousands of our soldiers because of those lies-but thats just my opinion.)
Looking at the Bush plan for conditions Iraq must comply with after succesful completion of the invasion of Iraq with the provisional condition of acceptance by the Iraq government of a "production Sharing agreement" it becomes obvious to all but the most deprived of intelligent thought that the motivation was in fact control of Iraq's vast oil reserves future profits.
I've had my say and am through pissing in the wind on this, believe what you will for whatever reason you chose to believe that way but History will show this dark period for what it was.
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Ductboy
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RO# 12752
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Newbie509
RO# 30359
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Posted - Jul 26 2010 : 21:24:56
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Too bad Kerry isn't US Flagged.
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rtribble
RO# 15208
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Posted - Jul 26 2010 : 21:37:41
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Yep, I remember all that too along with the violations of the "no fly zone" and resultant strikes against Iraq for that also. Iraq's failure to allow the UN inspectors in was a serious problem that did warrant strong actions on our part but we did not invade Iraq or deliberately manipulate or suppress intelligence in order build a case to justify an invasion of Iraq. While an air strike may have been justifiable as responce to Iraq's failure to allow UN inspectors in an invasion just wasn't warranted then as it wasn't warranted when Bush was pursuing it. Clinton did not contrive to present manipulated, knowingly inaccurate and false intelligence while at the same time suppressing the truth through use of unscrupulous means in order to justify those air strikes as the Bush administration did for justification of the invasion of Iraq and not one American soldier was harmed by Clinton's actions.
There is no comparison between Clinton's actions and those of Bush.
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PeteMrrs
RO# 4125
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Posted - Jul 26 2010 : 22:33:04
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Now that this thread, has been completely hijacked, there is no doubt that it belongs in NBR.
Rtribble; Why don't you take it over there, where we can have a real open discussion on your point of view.
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rtribble
RO# 15208
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 10:33:55
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Pete, there never was any doubt that this thread was not appropriate from the very beginning and from the beginning I and others have asked the moderator to clean it up and take the non-boating political attacks to NRB.
This is not the first time topics have been posted on this forum that were intended as political attacks and not really about boating at all and even though many of us have pointed out that the subject matter was inappropriate and should be moved to NBR and the moderator never makes any attempt to stop any of these politically motivated threads that clearly do not belong outside NBR.
This thread has never had an ounce of legitimacy and never had substance to "hijack" to start with.
As I've requested from the outset the moderator should move this tread and all future like threads to NBR where it belongs, but only he can do that.
Having said this I would like to take the opportunity to apologize to any RO who may have been offended by any of my comments on this thread that belonged in NBR, I was only trying to drive home a point to illustrate why Ask The Captain forum should be kept clean from inappropriate NBR subject matter.
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KiDa
RO# 16492
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 Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 10:46:00
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Originally posted by PeteMrrs
Now that this thread, has been completely hijacked, there is no doubt that it belongs in NBR.
Rtribble; Why don't you take it over there, where we can have a real open discussion on your point of view.
That's low Pete. I'm proud of you!
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RO# 30763
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 11:06:59
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Is there any moderation going on whatsoever? This thread is the poster child for NBR!
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Capt. Bill1
RO# 2017
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 13:02:48
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Based on how well the government takes care of other peoples money, it's amazing anybody pays their taxes:
"Audit: US can't account for $8.7B in Iraqi funds
AP
BAGHDAD – The U.S. Defense Department is unable to properly account for over 95 percent of $9.1 billion in Iraqi oil money tapped by the U.S. for rebuilding the war ravaged nation, according to an audit released Tuesday.
The report by the U.S. Special Investigator for Iraq Reconstruction offers a compelling look at continued laxness in how such funds were being spent in a country where people complain basic services like electricity and clean water are sharply lacking seven years after the U.S.-led invasion that toppled Saddam Hussein.
The audit found that shoddy record keeping by the Defense Department left the Pentagon unable to fully account for $8.7 billion it withdrew between 2004 and 2007 from a special fund set up by the U.N. Security Council. Of that amount, Pentagon "could not provide documentation to substantiate how it spent $2.6 billion."
The funds are separate from the $53 billion allocated by Congress for rebuilding Iraq."
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boatbum
RO# 36
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 15:35:51
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ITK
I know people that register in R.I. and never spend time there. All they have to do is open up an LLC in R.I. and they are home free. I stand behind my statement since many mega yacht owners register in the Caymans etc. to avoid taxes.
Listen to me.
The people that do this have the dollars to pay the taxes. They're being cheap S.O.B.s and they should be hauled down on the carpet for it. Before you tell me about folks that register in R.I. leaving their boats there as a home port, talk to me about how much time they actually spend there. I'm willing to bet none of them spend much time at all in R.I..
It's a tax cheat and we all know it.
By the way, kerry read the news and decided to pay up. Bravo!! Late, but damn it he admitted to being a cheat and came up with the cash.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=11262480
All of these cheap s.o.b.s should be forced to pay up. The ultra rich are ripping everyone else off with loop holes in boating tax laws.
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In the know
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 16:08:14
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Dan
It does not matter how much time they spend there - it matters how much time their boat spends in RI - and it must be minimum 90 days. This is not cheating, this is perfectly legal and using the laws that are in place on the books.
And, whjy do I need to "listen to you"? I live in the bleeping state, I know how it works, and I know how people legally use the system to their advantage.
Heck, I would even go so far as to say that there may even be some on this forum.
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Capt. Bill1
RO# 2017
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 16:09:59
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"It's a tax cheat and we all know it."
It's not a "tax cheat" Dan. It's a legal avoidance available to all.
But in the end I'm glad he saw the light. Even if it had to be shined on him first. Now maybe if he'll just donate 7 million to the New England boat building community he can finally go sailing in peace. :-)
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Brian N
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 16:12:12
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What you are all overlooking is that the Commonwealth of Massachusetts is the same place that last year picked a fight with New Hampshire by trying to force MA residents who shop in NH to save on sales tax to declare their purchases upon return to MA and pay the sales tax. They tried to order NH tire stores to collect sales tax on MA resident's purchases.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/02/03/state_chases_sales_taxes_in_nh/
So, they'll go after Joe Schmoe for saving a few bucks on tires for their vehicle, but will let His Excellency John F'ing Kerry skip out on a half million in taxes?
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boatbum
RO# 36
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 16:20:15
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Brian, I hear you and this is my point. It's all recessive taxing. The wealthy pay less based on taxing consumption.
ITK, the boat is what is not staying there. Maybe in his case it is but given he's forking over the dough now I think that action says it all and does so for many of the larger boats that register there.
Bill, is it really available to everyone? What is the cost of opening up an LLC? Legal, etc.. Ok? Do you *really* think it will pay of for everyone? I think that is a naive statement, and that with some examination of the costs involved in setting up an LLC, we will easily prove otherwise.
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Capt. Bill1
RO# 2017
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 18:07:02
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Dan, show me where I said it would pay for everyone? Of course it doesn't "pay" for everyone. No more than registering your boat out of the country pays for every one. But both options are available to all.
As to the cost of an LLC in R.I.? I can't speak to that. But in FL it can be done online for very little money. And in most states it ranges from $50 - $800 + fees.
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In the know
RO# 20824
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 18:28:59
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Originally posted by boatbum
Brian, I hear you and this is my point. It's all recessive taxing. The wealthy pay less based on taxing consumption.
ITK, the boat is what is not staying there. Maybe in his case it is but given he's forking over the dough now I think that action says it all and does so for many of the larger boats that register there.
Bill, is it really available to everyone? What is the cost of opening up an LLC? Legal, etc.. Ok? Do you *really* think it will pay of for everyone? I think that is a naive statement, and that with some examination of the costs involved in setting up an LLC, we will easily prove otherwise.
How do you know the boat is not staying there? Dollars to donuts says that Newport is indeed its homeport for at least this season.
Yes, it really is available to everyone, and no, you don't even need an LLC to do it.
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 18:29:55
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LLC's can be set up for less than $500.00. They are legal last time I checked. They also are not relevant to this discussion. Demonizing people who legally use tax law is exactly what this administration is so good at doing. If you took every dollar of private equity and gave it to the government it wouldn't put any money in the lower income classes pockets. I wonder what the damage to our already failing economy would do if we were stripped of private equity? The real problem lies in unfunded pensions and federal mandates on States.
Les can we get this moved to NBR?
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Hyperfishing
RO# 3223
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 19:10:22
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On the "Bush lied people died...phoney war in Iraq" issue": last year I was at a public meeting with the chief FBI interrogator of Saddam after his capture.
The FBI wanted to know why Saddam worked really, really, hard to convince everyone that he actually did have WMD (moving trucks out of buildings a few minutes before WMD inspectors arrived, so we could see him doing that from our space cameras etc.)...
Answer: Saddam finally said he was afraid of ....IRAN, and wanted to make them think he still had WMDs.
Saddam was convinced, from buying off the French president and U.N. officials with the oil for food scam, there was no way the U.S. could invade Iraq with a French U.N. security council veto.
No phoney war, just a very very bad bet by Saddam, as the U.S. invaded without U.N. cover.
Leave this up, this is public information all should know, irregardless of Kerry and his tax affairs. Plus an example of how NBR works, and the unique insights you can gain from it. Hence worth the $15 bucks to uncle Les Hall and the boatered team for an anchor. <gg>
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boatbum
RO# 36
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 19:26:18
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Bill you said it was available to everyone. To me that implies it's something we should all take advantage of. I don't believe everyone is capable of taking advantage of this loop hole. Many fear taking loop holes like this for fear of being penalized. Those without the dollars to defend themselves would rather opt out don't you think? If you drive a boat that is defended by the owner, what do you care? Seriously, a captain is merely a pawn in the game right?
Regardless, it's a recessive tax. Look that up.
Simple as that.
R.I. would be flooded with LLC applications from people like me if it wasn't for the notion that most think this is a dirt bag approach to saving bucks, or, that they would be the first sought out for penalties in the event they screw up some how.
Bill3 call it what you will. People that look for excuses to avoid paying taxes are not going to pay their fair share vs. those that don't have the same economic or legal representation.
ITK I'm willing to bet you would not have to look far to find one that did not live up to the law. All one has to do is run the ICW and have a decent memory to find boats that don't spend their time up there.
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RO# 20824
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 19:36:15
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No, RI would not be flooded with LLC applications because there is no need for an LLC to register your boat in RI - why on earth do you think there is?
Did I ever say or imply that all boats lived up to the letter of the law - I will answer for you - NO, I didn't. In the case of Kerry's boat, which is what we are discussing here, it is not a stretch to think it will be hoem ported in RI, where she is properly registered.
We here in RI welcome all boat owners - heck the guy in the slip across from me is registered in RI, and he lives in Tennessee. Believe it or not, he really does keep his boat in RI.
If one is not living up to the law, then go after the tax money+penalty. For those that are LEGALLY registered in RI and meeting the 90 day requirement - to the tax man I say here is your one finger salute.
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 20:30:41
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OK, folks, time to focus. Discuss taxes, LLCs, tax saving measures, tax cheats, the boat, the advantages of RI, the disadvantages of RI, etc. and the post stays here. Zero in on politics and it goes to the NBR. Your choice.
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Capt. Bill1
RO# 2017
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 20:37:25
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Originally posted by boatbum
Bill you said it was available to everyone. To me that implies it's something we should all take advantage of. I don't believe everyone is capable of taking advantage of this loop hole. Many fear taking loop holes like this for fear of being penalized. Those without the dollars to defend themselves would rather opt out don't you think? If you drive a boat that is defended by the owner, what do you care? Seriously, a captain is merely a pawn in the game right?
Regardless, it's a recessive tax. Look that up.
Simple as that.
I can't help what it implies to you.
But I clearly never said nor implied anything of the sort. It's up to each individual to decide that.
And I can't see where anyone has anything to fear in taking advantage of a decades old legal tax "loop hole". If they are in fear, than their fear must be based on ignorance of the tax law involved.
Defend from what!? It's a well established and legal means of avoiding paying some taxes. There is nothing to defend if done properly and legally.
When I registered my last boat it was listed as a charter vessel, which it was, so I payed no sales tax on it. Perfectly legal at the time and I had nothing to fear.
And I don't think captains are pawns in any tax game. It's not our problem one way or the other. Other than the more large boats registered in the US the better it is for US licensed captains and crews.
Speaking of looking something up, I think you are talking about a regressive tax.
Because to the best of my knowledge there is no such thing as a "recessive" tax.
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KiDa
RO# 16492
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 20:39:32
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I vote NBR.
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Ductboy
RO# 12348
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 22:07:38
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I'm with ITK...I admit it, I keep my boat in RI and live elsewhere. My boat stays in RI year round, and I also pay taxes in RI on a second home. Do I feel I skirting the law...not in any way. My boat was built in RI, I pay for a slip in RI, I pay for winter storage, have local trades people do work on the boat, and shop at the local Wests, as well as other marine related stores. I choose to spend my boat dollars in RI because I truly enjoy spending time in the state.
RI is a boating friendly state, and has prospered because of it.
The following is from the RI Marine Trades Association who tracks the progress and effects of the lack of sales tax on boats in the state:
On behalf of the East Bay Economic Initiative (EBEI) and the Rhode Island Marine Trades Association (RIMTA), we have enclosed the Semi-Annual Report on Sales Tax Repeal for 2007.
This report has been generated every two years since 1992 and is a continuing follow up on the effects of the repeal of the sales and use tax on boats sold in Rhode Island. The results are from a survey sample of 29 diverse marine companies in Rhode Island. It is quite clear that the data indicates that the repeal of the sales tax in July of 1992 has spurred significant growth in employment and tax base in our industry.
Since the repeal of the sales tax there has been a significant economic gain for the state. Millions of dollars have been put back into the state’s economy. The survey, comparing 1992 to 2005 indicates that job growth has exceeded 55 % and the industry has added $130 billion to the economy of Rhode Island. In Rhode Island, there are over 2,300 marine related businesses, 6,600 jobs, with an average salary of $39,400.00. The industry has 450 employment vacancies and with projected Industry growth, there will be over 2,400 employment positions within the next five – ten years.
Dan
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 22:17:12
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Maybe he doesn't like to boat in MA. Personally I can't stand the guy but I also am not sure what he is doing wrong here.
As this is going to likely be my scenario next spring: If I live in VA but but in the Chesapeake and the boat stays in a slip in the Chesapeake, where should I register it if I wish to not be called a tax evader or cheat? What about if I park it in Florida and just fly down every couple of months to use it? I may be sounding like a smart alec here but I really don't know. I have never had this many options with regards to where I live and where I boat before.
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Capt. Bill1
RO# 2017
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Posted - Jul 27 2010 : 22:25:54
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Originally posted by Les Hall
OK, folks, time to focus. Discuss taxes, LLCs, tax saving measures, tax cheats, the boat, the advantages of RI, the disadvantages of RI, etc. and the post stays here. Zero in on politics and it goes to the NBR. Your choice.
"focus", "Zero in", what thread have you been reading?
Because this one was about politics from the get go.
Hello NBR.
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Creationism is to science what storks are to obstetrics.
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Posted - Jul 28 2010 : 00:55:44
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As I pointed out in my first post it started and was left here to get political responce. It has been working to a point. There is some post that seem to be from the lefts point of view and that is what the thread wanted so the view from the right can voice how the country is being turned into socialist nation and how the president is a POS. First it was the administration was going to take your guns away up to taking you fishing poles away. Most of the left view have quit posting as the same old broken record of most political post is solely to trash the present administration and to clam is was fine for the left to trash the previous administration. It is getting old.
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Posted - Jul 28 2010 : 03:33:00
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...getting back to the OP:
If the law was written such that the boat must pay taxes in it's homeport, and the boat is home-ported in << fill in the blank >> then that is what you should do; pay the tax in the home port area. This is legal ( and actually lawfully required ). If it is too expensive to keep your boat in the area where you live, but affordable if you meet the hope port requirements elsewhere ( with lower taxes ) then you certainly can ( and perhaps should ) move the boat to the location that is interested in boats.
There is a political side to the OP. But frankly, I did not elect this guy and any good ( or bad ) "feelings" should be expressed by those who vote for ( or against ) him.
Imho, a) it is done frequently by owners of expensive boats, and b) it is quite legal. If you do not like this, then go fix law to your taste, rather than complain about it here.
And on that note, I am done w/ this thread.
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RO# 36
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Posted - Jul 28 2010 : 07:11:44
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Some say regressive, some say recessive. It was hammered into us at college.
Ok, it's available to everyone doesn't mean we can all use it if we like? Deciding is simple. Only those that can move their boat from state to state so as to avoid penalties can take advantage of it. Regular folks with full time jobs or those that cannot afford all of the fuel required, or additional marina fees (long term leases can't be used) are excluded. Is that a fair tax scheme?
This is not a left like position. People will go to a state and stay there 5 months and move on to avoid paying taxes. They never stop in R.I.. So what's the home port?
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MikeeH
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Posted - Jul 28 2010 : 07:44:57
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John,
by "Chesapeake" I'm assuming you mean Maryland (The Chesapeake Bay has shoreline in both MD and VA). So, if the boat is berthed, used or stored in MD the majority of the year you will be responsibile for the one-time 5% MD sales taxe (unless you are moving the boat to MD and can show that you already paid an equal or larger sales tax to another state) and a bi-annual Registration fee of $32.
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He’s one of those who knows that life
Is just a leap of faith;
Spread your arms and hold you breath;
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Posted - Jul 28 2010 : 07:56:02
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Originally posted by Hyperfishing
Hence worth the $15 bucks to uncle Les Hall and the boatered team for an anchor.
Must be cheaper to register in RI...Canucks have to pay 20 bucks..(g)
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Posted - Jul 28 2010 : 07:59:31
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When I was a kid, sales tax, in my state, was only applicable to purchases greater than ten cents. If I had a quarter and wanted a soft drink, snack and some gum, I could not afford it because the sales tax would kick the cost up to 27 cents. I figured out early on that if I broke the transaction down into three separate purchases I could get a Barq's for ten cents, a pack of cupcakes for 10 cents and five pieces of gum for a nickel thereby avoiding the sales tax all together. That is an attitude that has served me well for many years. Why pay any tax if you can legally avoid it. My boat has had a tax number for years and I avoid LEGALLY paying sales taxes on 99% of my purchases.
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RO# 30972
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Posted - Jul 28 2010 : 08:33:42
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Yeah Mike, I did mean the Maryland part of the bay. I pretty much figured it was the way you said based on conversations in the Chesapeake Delaware forum but from the way some here talk it appears to be dodging taxes. I am the guy that would get caught if I even thought about dodging them. I have been audited 4 times by the IRS (all but once to my benefit) and still worry everytime I send in my taxes in April.
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Posted - Jul 28 2010 : 08:55:52
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What the guy is doing is legal and is perfectly fine with me. The fact that he is a hypocrit is a different matter.
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MikeeH
RO# 6342
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Posted - Jul 28 2010 : 10:28:45
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John,
Yeah, you really don't want to try to dodge the MD taxes if you're berthing in MD. They nail people all the time and it gets expensive when penalties and interest is added in.
BTW>>>
"What the guy is doing is legal and is perfectly fine with me. The fact that he is a hypocrit is a different matter.'
DING-DING-DING!! We do have a winner!!!!
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Mike
He’s one of those who knows that life
Is just a leap of faith;
Spread your arms and hold you breath;
Always trust your cape. Guy Clark
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KiDa
RO# 16492
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Posted - Jul 28 2010 : 12:29:23
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This avenue is available in Virginia as well depending on location. Portsmouth, VA charges ~$20 per year to register your boat. Portsmouth does not have a personal property tax on boats. Other places do. A lot of people not from Portsmouth berth their boats there to avoid taxes in their home town. The positive economic effect of this action in Portsmouth has been huge. So much so that other communities have been forced to revisit their tax laws regarding boats to entice people back to their home town.
No civilization ever taxed itself to prosperity. Portsmouth is living proof.
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mandm1200
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Posted - Aug 04 2010 : 19:24:28
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quote:
Originally posted by Capt. Bill1
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/04/jeff-greene-florida-senat_n_670388.html
From the article": "The report managed to cast Kerry in a bad light, and likely had the unintended consequence of alerting hundreds of yacht owners to the fact that Rhode Island known as "a nautical tax haven.""
Seems like Rhode Island will benefit from all the media.
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vic33004
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Posted - Aug 05 2010 : 13:43:15
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florida did recently pass a revision to its sales tax code. the max tax now is capped at $18,000.00. we now hope to see alot more vessels flagged here in the US and spend more time in Florida waters as a result.
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gorgeous boat, but shoulnd't the owner....
