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 280 496 engine or two 4.3 or 5.0...?
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pstew96

RO# 12527

Posted - May 24 2011 :  20:43:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I want to move up to a bigger boat, fuel costs being what they are, is it better to get one big motor (496) or two small (4.3) ones or two 5.0? I know the docking and security of the twins have value, but I do have boatus towing and I really cruise alot and gas is expencive!

Homeport: Babylon,NY

jtybt15

RO# 3300

Posted - May 25 2011 :  02:30:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ya know, I wasn't even going to respond mainly because there are so many variables. Best bet is to compare real life numbers from actual owners.

On the variables encountered would be the load put on the engines at a given speed and what throttle opening it takes to maintain that speed. That would also include gear ratios and prop sizes and drive systems (inboard vs I/O), not to mention hull types.

Are you talking about hull speeds or what?






Charlie

There is much to be said, in a world like ours, for taking the world as you find it and fishing with a worm.-Bliss Perry, 1904



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Brite Idea

RO# 12714

Posted - Jun 06 2011 :  20:13:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been on that boat with twin 4.3's and they're not enough power for that boat. I own a 270 Sundancer with twin 4.3's and they're ok for my boat but not for the 280. We boat in the same waters so I'll say that if you only cruise local you can gat away with a single but you don't see many 280's setup that way. The 5.0 is a good engine and will work with either Alpha or Bravo drives.
All that said what boat you will enjoy the most, I'd say the 5.0 with Bravo III's. It will also be the most maintenance and most expensive to repair when things break.
Rob



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samuel

RO# 15062

Posted - Jul 20 2011 :  05:40:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you want to move to a bigger boat and you cruise alot I would not buy a boat with outdrive. The expense of the outdrive will out do your fuel cost. I would stick with inboards will give a better ride.


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pstew96

RO# 12527

Posted - Jul 22 2011 :  07:42:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks guys, I would really like to get a 28' with one big motor, I don't want the maintenance nightmare and I want the outdrive so I can get shallow. Maybe I should just get a newer version of what I already have, the 24'..


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Prospective

RO# 23085

Posted - Jul 22 2011 :  08:31:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I second the thought that the only way to go in that boat is twin 5.0's. Twins for the manueverability factor, and 5.0's because the 4.3's are not enough power on a boat of that weight. And both for resale purposes. You might not get more but you'll have an easier time selling.

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KiDa

RO# 16492



Posted - Jul 22 2011 :  10:42:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I prefer the largest single I can stuff in the compartment. Maintenance costs are lower. Fuel consumption is lower. Room in the ER is greater. Ping Harlen. IIRC he or his cruising buddy had a 27 with a large single and had no problems. I know Harlen had enough room in his to add a real nice gennie and still had room to spare in the ER. I don't know if you could do that with twins. Manufacturers rarely think about the poor SOB that has to get into the ER to actually do stuff when they design a boat.

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BoatCrazy

RO# 30843



Posted - Jul 22 2011 :  11:26:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
" Manufacturers rarely think about the poor SOB that has to get into the ER to actually do stuff when they design a boat."

Aint that the truth!!


"It is what it is and it aint what it aint"

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SteveR

RO# 2654

Posted - Sep 21 2011 :  23:24:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
You'll hate a 28 sundancer with a single big block. I like you was looking for a large single due to maintenance and space concerns. I test drove two 280 Sun Sports, one with a MAG 454 B3 and one with twin 5.7 EFI B1s. Absolutely no comparison. The maintenance issue is no big deal if you are fastidious with your upkeep and the ease around the dock, better ride, time to plane. Really makes a big difference in the enjoyment factor. Try it for yourself and you'll change your mind like I did.


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Billylll

RO# 24494

Posted - Nov 21 2011 :  18:09:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I had to do it over again I would dosingle a diesel conversion and a single shaft if I had that choice.
Bill


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rduhon

RO# 29321

Posted - Nov 22 2011 :  20:55:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought Harlan had twins???



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jrpar

RO# 11343

Posted - Dec 01 2011 :  13:24:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd go with the twin 5.0's. Had them in my 30 maxum with BII's and I'd do it again for this size express..
Ran a 280 with the 4.3's and they worked too hard..



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