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pdecat
RO# 842
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Posted - Aug 06 2012 : 13:00:33
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the forward sections look a lot more buoyant, ( immersed volume) that aft. How did you calculate fore and aft balance?
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Bruce
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Homeport: Gulf Coast FL
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Aug 06 2012 : 13:16:57
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Yeah 207 has "some" UV protection but not enough. Will likely use clear awlgrip as a finish.
Bruce, I have done all the calculations a few months ago but I m keeping some flexibility to adjust ballast after lanch if needed.
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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 Posted - Aug 12 2012 : 09:51:44
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Got the hull glassed below WL on port side, along with a coat of pigmented epoxy. Next, some glassing inside; inside wood is glassed, need to finish glassing below WL and finish some tabbing, then work on floors, seats, etc
A little easier to see the lines on that side without the roof columns and clutter inside
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Aug 12 2012 : 09:58:09
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Once Pascal installs the bow thruster the bow section should come into balance with the aft sections of the boat. This assumes he uses at least 2 31 series AGM's under the floor of the bow area and a large thruster.
Bill
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Homeport: Tuckerton, N.J.
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Aug 12 2012 : 10:21:28
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You forgot AIS, HD radar, FLIR, NMEA 2012, and a fusion megaDB with 13" screen :)
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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stmbtwle
RO# 7934
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Posted - Aug 12 2012 : 10:43:55
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You're gonna want more solar panels... Are you going to set up the drive for regeneration?
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Homeport: Tampa Bay, FL
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BoatCrazy
RO# 30843
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Posted - Aug 12 2012 : 10:50:00
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Pascal, I know what you have to do in NYS to register a homemade boat. What do you have to do in FL, and how long do you think it will take to get the paper work done??
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Homeport: Long Beach NY
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pdecat
RO# 842
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Posted - Aug 12 2012 : 10:55:05
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Billy:
You forgot the 300# anchor. With gaff rig it must be yachtsman style.
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Bruce
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Homeport: Gulf Coast FL
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Aug 12 2012 : 10:59:46
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Willie, yes the system will have regen although research tells me it is no miracle solution. We re most likely going to keep the boat on a mooring so I will have a couple of solar panels which when sailing will be stored in slots in the stern deck
BC... Like so many things :) registering a non production boat is much easier in Florida... You just get a HIN from the state whe applying for title.
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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BoatCrazy
RO# 30843
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Posted - Aug 12 2012 : 11:51:21
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Thats crazy. Here in NY, we go to DMV with a material list, receipts, pictures, and then someone has to come down an inspect the boat, and THEN they will give you a HIN if everything meets their standards.
I had to recently do that with a boat trailer, man was that a PITA.
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Homeport: Long Beach NY
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Aug 12 2012 : 13:49:10
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What standards? :)
The only reason for bringing material receipts when registering into show that you have paid sales tax on the materials... This way they don't charge you any sales tax on the boat.
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Aug 12 2012 : 13:53:04
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quote:
Originally posted by PascalG
You forgot AIS, HD radar, FLIR, NMEA 2012, and a fusion megaDB with 13" screen :)
Its good to see someone still has a sense of humor Pascal.
She is a beautiful vessel.
Thanks,
Bill
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Sedan Bridge
Little Egg, N.J. |
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Homeport: Tuckerton, N.J.
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Oct 20 2012 : 15:34:21
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Finally been able to get back to work on the boat... Time is really flying!
Finished the interior hull glassing, now working on the floors, benches, etc
Cockpit floor hatch frames epoxied in place:
Test fitting the hatches:
I am leaving a 1" gap around the edges for water to drain out quickly. The large gap in the center will be closed and leveled with hatches after electric motor and stuffing box is installed. There will be a double gasket to prevent overflowing in the bilges:
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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saltysam
RO# 26
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Posted - Oct 20 2012 : 15:51:09
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I've never built one myself, 'glass or wood, but as a callow youth circa 1940 I was able to hangout in the oldetyme A,C. Smith Boatyard in Patchogue, LI NY. I had run aground in the inner harbor and had to seek repairs for the broken centerboard of a 16-ft Cape Cod one design boat. This gave me the chance to learn the smell of a wooden boatyard. They were well known for building and working on New York Yacht Club 40-footers of the era.
What a lovely job you're doing. A real delight to learn how far along you are. Don't falter ! Well Done.
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Homeport: New River, Ft Lauderdale
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Chesagansett
RO# 9880
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Posted - Oct 20 2012 : 22:05:01
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Looks great, Pascal!
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Glenn
Herndon, VA
Four Winns Sundowner 245
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Homeport: Upper Chesapeake Bay / Key Biscayne, FL
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pdecat
RO# 842
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Posted - Oct 21 2012 : 12:31:25
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Sam: I too remember when boat yard smelled good. There was a unique smell to old wood boats slowly returning to the earth. If you ever get to Newport check out the Yacht restoration school for an olfactory jump back in time.
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Homeport: Gulf Coast FL
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Nov 05 2012 : 10:12:58
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Don't you hate it when works get in the way? :)
Got the cockpit benches in as well as the floors and hatches. Cabin floors are curing and going in tomorrow...
Working on cabin sides, this probably the final shape, although I may cut it down another inch
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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KnottyBuoyz
RO# 20406
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Posted - Nov 06 2012 : 05:32:22
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Very nice progress Pascal. I see the project manager is hard at it in the last photo! :-)
Carry on, we're watching.
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Rick
"It's not the boat "you built" until you've sworn at it, bled on it, sweated over it and cried beside it!" - I just made that up! |
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Homeport: Iroquois, ON
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 12:29:20
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Stern bench is placed in, glassed underneath already; about to glass the top surface
Cabin side glassed in, quick coat of white pigmented epoxy on as well as the deck. Cabin sides will be covered with teak veneered ply, completly sealed with epoxy on the back and edges, plus a layer of cleat 6oz glass on the visible side
Cabin floor are in too, eventually they will be glassed in and covered with teak and holly ply
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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rduhon
RO# 29321
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Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 12:52:14
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Nice work Pascal.
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Homeport: Lake Charles, La
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Rick D
RO# 32381
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Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 17:48:20
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Absolutely love the look of the wood hull. Nice work.
--Rick
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saltysam
RO# 26
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Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 18:21:32
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Now that I can see the finished product so clearly it is amazing how closely the look and the lines of this slick boat are to the 26-ft sloop rigged Knockabouts used for sail training at USNA in 1940s and 1950s. A real Yankee surely did the design work. Pascal's construction efforts are far superior to what I recall were evident in the UISNA fleet. Super Good JOb!
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Homeport: New River, Ft Lauderdale
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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saltysam
RO# 26
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Posted - Nov 10 2012 : 20:21:30
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Great Memories! Yes, yours has much more beam. Those were somewhere close to 6-o and we squeezed up to a 6-man/boy crew in them for instructional purposes.
Our friends at the Annapolis Yacht CLub (many ex-USN members) always had a Knockabout class for their summertime regattas.
Boats had enough sail for some enjoyable sailing/racing in the 10-15 kt afternoon breezes. I still have a silver julip cup in my den.
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Homeport: New River, Ft Lauderdale
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Nov 12 2012 : 12:09:48
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Lowered the cabin another couple of inches, was too high
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Nov 16 2012 : 13:13:36
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Cabin room is glassed on both sides. Still removable to allow better access to work inside
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Dec 02 2012 : 12:54:32
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The fun part has begun.. Wood trim!
Cockpit coaming (Hondurian mahogany)
Anchor locker cut out
Coaming, port side
Test fitting the hatch frame (made of Jatoba)
Hatch frame epoxied in. Bow plank will have a pair of bronze cleat
Cabin sides trimmed with mahogany ply. Back side and edges have been coated with epoxy
Planning for the cockpit table. First criteria is a cooler tall enough for bottles of champagne to stay upright! Angled foam board will be made in mahogany and be used for switches, VHF, sounder, etc. forward of the cooler and above the centerboard trunk will be dry storage (about 8x9x24) and drink/stem glasses holder
Sunday morning in the boatyard... I mean backyard!:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF74G6qCGJo
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Dec 02 2012 : 13:09:39
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One more... Stern trim (jatoba), with a piece of western red cedar as toe rail. Not sure yet if I m going to use WRC for the cap rail or a darker wood. Rub rail will be a dark hardwood about 1" wide with brass
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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saltysam
RO# 26
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Posted - Dec 02 2012 : 14:16:02
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This is a long way from a casual Cape Cod-type catboat! Critical dimensions related to bottles of bubbly, indeed.....What a wonderful Job. WELL DONE !
p.s.. where/how did you acqure your woodworking skills. ?
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Homeport: New River, Ft Lauderdale
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Dec 02 2012 : 14:47:52
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Skills? What skills? :)
From time to time i still forget that "measure twice, cut once" golden rule!
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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Britanic
RO# 27562
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Posted - Dec 02 2012 : 16:39:56
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Pascal, this is very enjoyable. Thanks.
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Homeport: Barnegat Bay, NJ
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Dec 04 2012 : 19:23:02
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Here are two more pics taken with the cover off...
Moving along nicely! will finish fairing the decks so i can work on the toe rail and rub rail over the next few days. I want to have the hull done before heading to the exumas around the 20th with Charmer, so I can work on the spars, and finishing in jan when i get back to launch early feb. with enough testing time for Washington birthday classic regatta, which really started all this!
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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Pa Mikee
RO# 32785
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Posted - Dec 04 2012 : 19:48:47
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quote:
Originally posted by PascalG
From time to time i still forget that "measure twice, cut once" golden rule!
Doing it that way sure beats 'I cut it twice and its still too short'
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Thudpucker
RO# 10503
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Posted - Dec 04 2012 : 19:52:00
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I hope I'm not holding things back.
Do your Cushions for the back deck have some kind of Hurricane straps to keep them in place?
If you got into really bad weather, batten down the Hatch etc. Would the Cushions still be there when you came out?
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Homeport: AL.
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pdecat
RO# 842
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Posted - Dec 05 2012 : 08:08:38
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I still like the sheer and the coach roof is in good proportion. There are so many ugly boats today it is nice to see one that looks like a boat not a painting from Dali.
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Homeport: Gulf Coast FL
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Dec 05 2012 : 08:49:47
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Thanks! I trimmed the cabin sides 3 times before settling on the current height, I started high on purpose and took out an inch at a time till I was happy with the look. It s amazing how much difference an inch make and being a daysailor headroom isn't a real concern
There is still sitting head room. The vee berth is also big enough for two.
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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pdecat
RO# 842
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Posted - Dec 05 2012 : 09:15:58
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love those sailing boots!
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Bruce
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Homeport: Gulf Coast FL
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Dec 09 2012 : 15:51:47
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First coat of epoxy on the wood, 2nd coat on the hull:
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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saltysam
RO# 26
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Posted - Dec 09 2012 : 18:09:25
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ASTONISHING !
Mucho Well Done.
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Homeport: New River, Ft Lauderdale
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Dec 18 2012 : 14:02:46
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Getting there!
Won't be much progress over the next couple of weeks since I ll be hard at work in the exumas :) but still planning on launching early feb.
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Feb 03 2013 : 08:40:41
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Well the 2 weeks trip to the exumas was extended due to a 10 day charter turning the break into a month ! We re just 3 weeks away from the Barnacle regatta and its going to be close...
I ve ordered most of the bronze hardware (cleats, portholes, chocks...) from Spartan in Maine. All made in the USA... Not easy to find bronze portholes made in the US! only round ones we could find were made by communist china so settled for short ovals.
Deck and cockpit paint arrived, from Kirby paints out of New Bedford Ma. Turns out that not only have they been in business since 1846, still family owned and run by a Mr Kirby but they have been supplying paint to the barnacle since the days of commodore Munroe late 1800s / early 1900s
Electric motor on the way along with shaft, prop, etc
Cabin hatch is constructed along with tracks, working on the spars right now.
Still left: 2 coats of clear epoxy plus finish in hull, some fairing on bottom and bottom paint, rudder and centerboard, finishing the transom.
Plus a hundred other small things, all in 2 1/2 weeks! Final wood finish will be done on the mooring after launch, way too much dust and leaves here in the yard. Interior will also be done after launch.
Ripping jatoba for the hatch tracks
Red neck boat stands and to raise them...
Hatch is mahogany
Sails being cut at Bremen Sails (an old family owned loft here in Miami with roots in City Island NY
Home made scarfing jig
Jib boom assembled ready to shape, pieces for the gaff cut and ready to glue
Shaping the jib boom
Ripping pieces for the boom
Cutting a scarf
Gaff epoxied and clamped, boom ready to follow
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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sortie
RO# 2043
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Posted - Feb 03 2013 : 13:37:48
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Love the design. Nice job.
John
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Homeport: Merritt Island, FL
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Thudpucker
RO# 10503
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Posted - Feb 03 2013 : 17:26:46
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Boy you are moving along like Busters Gang. It looks a lot like a Real Sailboat already.
Love your photos too.
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Homeport: AL.
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Delivering Happiness
RO# 33144
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Posted - Feb 03 2013 : 18:09:22
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Beautiful work, love the wood.
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1998 Trojan 440 Express
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Boat Prevents That Sinking Feeling! |
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Feb 04 2013 : 09:20:09
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Shaping the end of the gaff
Test fitting some scrap pieces to check the mast diameter and cut angle
Ripping the 2x6 into 1.5 x 2 staves for the birdmouth mast.
Shaping the boom
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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saltysam
RO# 26
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Posted - Feb 04 2013 : 15:52:47
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This job has to be the most expert "ship's carpenter" work I have ever seen. A century ago such work was common, I saw it taking place during early days of WW2 but as a youngster did not appreciate the wonderful skills involved. Never thought I'd see it again in 2013 by way of a digital camera and a desk computer.
Thank You, Pascal.
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Homeport: New River, Ft Lauderdale
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Feb 04 2013 : 16:07:45
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Bill, that s very nice but I wish i was a skilled expert ... Heck i m not even sure this thing will float, let alone sail :)
It may be a little uncommon down here but up in New England they still know how to make boats by hand!
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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boatbum
RO# 36
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Posted - Feb 04 2013 : 17:36:36
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So are you selling all of the sawdust to the local butcher shop?
Seriously, this is a labor of love, and it's coming together really well. I know I don't have the skills to pull something like this together.
I might be able to paint it along the way, but pulling it all together and laying out the form has to be over my head!
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Feb 08 2013 : 18:35:55
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12 days to launch!
Going nuts at this point since we ve been busy with charters. Don't you hate it when work gets in the way? :)
Cutting the birdmouth on each strip for the mast
Birdmouths all cut and all pieces scarfed and marked. The trick here is that the mast is 30' long and the pieces are 16'. Each scarf uses up about 15"... But scarfing every stave using two pieces would place all the joints at the same spot on the mast creating a weak spot. So some pieces need to have two scarfing joints so they can be staggered. Each piece is numbered 1 thru 8, and lettered B M T depending if it goes at the bottom, middle or top... And each mark with dimension to make sure the joint are staggered
All pieces glued, clamped and drying
Tricky part nr 2... For the mast to be tapered (1" thinner at the top) each of the 8 staves has to tapered. Cutting from 0 to a half inch on the edge of 30' long strips is beyond my skills so I used a planer. I divided the length in 3 foot sections and shaved 1/16" on each pass, stopping 3' before the last and gradually adjusting the blade depth to 0 over the last 3' of each pass. So for instance at the top, each pieces received 8 passes totaling 1/2 while half way down it would only get 4 passes or 1/4". Worked great and only took a couple of hours. First tapered stave is on the right
Final result: a 30' tapered mast ready to glue and then shape. Plus a 19' main boom, 14' gaff and 8' jib boom
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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Bliss
RO# 2743
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Posted - Feb 09 2013 : 08:33:23
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Will you place a coin(s) on the mast step?
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Homeport: Reef Point Racine, WI
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