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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - Jan 08 2012 :  21:01:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Last winter I completed the new swim platform and stairs. This winter is the radar arch and hardtop on the Aft of my carver 3207
Below is the link to last year’s project.

http://www.boatered.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=144725#989202

below is a sketch



below is the partly completed female plug



Here is a close up of the lower section. priming and sanding



below is how i am planning the interior curve





http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff498/mjkkemper/27003.jpg

Edited by - mjkkemper on Jan 08 2012 21:03:19

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walterv

RO# 12640



Posted - Jan 08 2012 :  21:41:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How do you figure out the "sway factor"? What I mean by that is the arch is supporting (in front)the hardtop, add the weight of a tender, how do you control, support or calculate the side to side motion? My arch on my boat would sway a bit in rough seas, I am guessing yours will not.

The look is going to be awesome, the functionality is WOW. Loved what you did when you built your swim platform, can't wait to see this unfold.

Walter


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32carv

RO# 24150



Posted - Jan 08 2012 :  22:49:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like it would would fit my 3227. Any interest in making another one?
Jim



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370 Motoryacht

RO# 31959

Posted - Jan 08 2012 :  23:17:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is definitely one way to pass the winter! The platform was an awesome job and these features will add a ton of appeal to the 32. One thing I always wished my old 32 Aft had was a radar arch and a hardtop over the aft deck.

This will look a TON better than what most come up with for a cheap solution to add an arch or hardtop. I can't wait to see this unfold in the spring!


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dl2525

RO# 31205

Posted - Jan 09 2012 :  06:51:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In for the new project!


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footloose

RO# 6963

Posted - Jan 09 2012 :  07:50:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
nice shop and project.....I'm coveting some of the hardtops I see go by here in S FL.....Would love to make one this summer. Please post pictures and how you are doing it.

Thanks

Foot


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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - Jan 09 2012 :  07:50:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 32carv

Looks like it would would fit my 3227. Any interest in making another one?
Jim



Jim

with this build I am not sure if I will be able to get the plug off in one piece. The plug curves in at the base and i will be including the inside curves. which will need to be removed to flare in the inside fiberglass. It might be a one and done plug but i will see how it comes out of the mold.


http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff498/mjkkemper/27003.jpg

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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - Feb 01 2012 :  07:14:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Red it is!

One more coat of the tooling coat and I will be ready to Wax the plug. Should be able to start the gel coat and one layer of surfacing veil this weekend.





http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff498/mjkkemper/27003.jpg

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jtybt15

RO# 3300

Posted - Feb 01 2012 :  12:16:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think fiberglass guys are amazing. I woulda' just made it outta SS or aluminum.





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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - Mar 12 2012 :  07:08:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I havent updated lately but below is my progress

Gel Coat


First layer - Veil


Wetted out


Second layer - Chop Mat




Next 3 layers of 1708 Bi-axle. then close up the back.


http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff498/mjkkemper/27003.jpg

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kthoennes

RO# 32590



Posted - Mar 12 2012 :  13:16:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Boy I wish I could whip up major fiberglass enhancements like that. Looks great.

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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - Mar 26 2012 :  07:52:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

Finishing the last layer of biaxle.




overlaped the piece that will hold the back piece.



I will be flipping the plug over to put the bottom flap on. The inside pieces I will wet the pattern of the back - one layer of chopped mat on a waxed piece of white melamine. once its sets up it will be ridged but yet flexible. this will tie into the flap in the picture above. After that is in I will build up the inside until its flush. I alread incorportated the inside curve in the mold which is removable. Also I will be running a PVC tube up the middle in the inside for a chase. After a couple of layers on the inside wall I will drill a pour hole in the bottom and a relief hole in the top and fill the cavity with Closed Cell Urethane Foam. 2lb density should be adequate. This will glue the inside piece in as well as dreading the sound. I could use a denser mixture but I am not filling the core for strength. I will try and take a video of the foam expanding in the chamber.


http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff498/mjkkemper/27003.jpg

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cmariner32

RO# 7269



Posted - Mar 26 2012 :  22:07:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Amazing doesn't do your work justice. I'm really curious-what do you fabricate the plug from and how do you get all the smooth radius and bends? To me, building the plug so it makes a nice finish product is the "magic"

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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - Mar 27 2012 :  17:34:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by cmariner32

Amazing doesn't do your work justice. I'm really curious-what do you fabricate the plug from and how do you get all the smooth radius and bends? To me, building the plug so it makes a nice finish product is the "magic"



The plug is 1/2" masonit. the curves i used wood putty and curved piece of plastic the radus of the corners. Below are some pics








http://s1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff498/mjkkemper/?action=view¤t=ebfddf83.mp4


http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff498/mjkkemper/27003.jpg

Edited by - mjkkemper on Mar 27 2012 17:38:31

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froggy3k

RO# 4247

Posted - Mar 27 2012 :  19:52:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WOW! Impressive! True art in the making!


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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - Apr 05 2012 :  07:28:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Put in the chase for the Radar and Satillite cables.


Making the inside pannels


Dry fit of the inside panels



Once the inside panels are in i will fill the cavity with 3LB closed cell Urathan two part expanding foam. In the enclosed area i should get a 4Lb or greater setup.

After this will be building up the inside to match. At this time i will probaly demold.


http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff498/mjkkemper/27003.jpg

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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - Apr 14 2012 :  17:00:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Finished the inside first layer and filled with the two part urathan closed cell foam and de-molded.



One more layer on the inside than flare out with resin mixed with micro balloons.


http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff498/mjkkemper/27003.jpg

Edited by - mjkkemper on Apr 14 2012 17:01:11

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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - May 12 2012 :  14:25:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well final finished and installing today





http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff498/mjkkemper/27003.jpg

Edited by - mjkkemper on May 16 2012 21:40:48

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Volffas

RO# 30980



Posted - May 12 2012 :  20:08:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That looks fantastic. Do you do fiberglass for a living, or just on the side? I wouldn't even know where to start on something like that!



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Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - May 13 2012 :  07:42:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks great! how much does it weigh?

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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - May 13 2012 :  07:51:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Audrey II

Looks great! how much does it weigh?



I did not do the math but it is a lot lighter than it looks. Around a hundred pounds or less I would guess


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rythmstrat

RO# 32479



Posted - May 13 2012 :  10:22:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks awesome, nicely done!

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alexander38

RO# 31123



Posted - May 14 2012 :  04:09:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the boat is looking great..

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btoran

RO# 19401

Posted - May 14 2012 :  06:26:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
looks great. nice job. is the wood blocking permanent or just there during the install? did you run wires through it before installing?

Bruce Toran
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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - May 14 2012 :  07:08:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by btoran

looks great. nice job. is the wood blocking permanent or just there during the install? did you run wires through it before installing?




Thank you

The wood blocks where just temporary to lift it up. I will pull the wires once I splash her and install the radar.


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KiDa

RO# 16492



Posted - May 14 2012 :  22:39:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Man do I wish you were in VA. I need to raise my arch about 8".

OH and for the record; FARQUE YOU!!!!!


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alexander38

RO# 31123



Posted - May 18 2012 :  04:19:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the arch looks great, What did you use to go around the aft deck hand rails ?

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Edited by - alexander38 on May 18 2012 04:20:13

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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - May 18 2012 :  08:58:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alexander38

the arch looks great, What did you use to go around the aft deck hand rails ?



Thank's! King starboard around the aft deck hand rails


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alexander38

RO# 31123



Posted - May 20 2012 :  04:48:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
how thick and did you bend around the the the hand rails...some pics please...I've been wanting to up date mine but every boat I've seen the job looked nasty...

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btoran

RO# 19401

Posted - May 20 2012 :  08:12:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That much starboard must have cost a pretty penny.

Bruce Toran
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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - May 21 2012 :  07:44:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by btoran

That much starboard must have cost a pretty penny.



Not really. Two sheets and they cut them in half which worked out to be the correct height. (54x96" size sheet) When you buy it go to a plastic supply house. I think it was a little over $100 a sheet. Laird pastics I believe is has it and their national.


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walterv

RO# 12640



Posted - May 21 2012 :  17:22:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Great Job!!!!!!

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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - Aug 04 2012 :  09:18:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well got the Aft hardtop done and in the process of installing. I will post some completed pic




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btoran

RO# 19401

Posted - Aug 06 2012 :  09:31:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
looks great. nice job once again.

Bruce Toran
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froggy3k

RO# 4247

Posted - Aug 06 2012 :  20:00:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WOW! Awesome! Kudos!!!!!


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mjkkemper

RO# 21252

Posted - Aug 31 2012 :  10:13:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well I final took a completed picture



http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff498/mjkkemper/27003.jpg

Edited by - mjkkemper on Sep 01 2012 20:25:26

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HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Aug 31 2012 :  10:19:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can you make a hard top for me?

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