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November Charlie

RO# 824

Posted - Apr 07 2012 :  15:02:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5e2_1333668975

Love their idea of warning shots. And holding weapons tight until they were close aboard before ordering 'warning shots'.
My signature line is cooler than your signature line.

Homeport: Northeast

32carv

RO# 24150



Posted - Apr 07 2012 :  16:42:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Warning shots for slow learners. Lots of repetition is necesary. Good lesson.
Jim



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rduhon

RO# 29321

Posted - Apr 07 2012 :  16:57:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote



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Russ Taylor

RO# 31411

Posted - Apr 07 2012 :  17:28:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Being a pirate isn’t what it used to be


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SCORPIO

RO# 4810



Posted - Apr 07 2012 :  20:57:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That should educate the pirates a little. I really was hoping the security guys had a Barret 50 on board, that would have really allowed them to reach out and touch someone.
I couldn't even see the second skiff.


Chris USPS AP

Homeport: Lewes, Delaware Go to Top of Page

rduhon

RO# 29321

Posted - Apr 07 2012 :  21:10:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With all the shots they took, the first skiff should have been sunk.
I would have accidentally shot the boat several times.



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abalmuth

RO# 13885



Posted - Apr 08 2012 :  06:06:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


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until you hear them speak.........

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stmbtwle

RO# 7934

Posted - Apr 08 2012 :  08:00:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The boats are probably foamed and cannot be sunk. Even if they're not, a couple dozen 1/4" holes won't make much difference in that short a time (unless of course you put them in the engine or the crew). It appears the security crew DID hit whoever was steering though.

Personally I think security was under-gunned.


Willie. She's a tired old barge but she's paid for!

Edited by - stmbtwle on Apr 08 2012 08:06:35

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HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Apr 08 2012 :  08:13:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't you just love a happy ending!

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DeeVee

RO# 645

Posted - Apr 08 2012 :  08:39:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just get some M203 attach to those M4's and they'll be fine. Love the happy ending.


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Veebyes

RO# 11224

Posted - Apr 08 2012 :  08:42:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good going but yes, it would have been nice if they also had something with a bit more BOOM to it. Perhaps something that could be moved from mount to mount depending where the target is. All that is needed is one good hit on the boat. A wonderful thought....sitting on a disabled small open boat miles from shore, no hope of rescue.


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stmbtwle

RO# 7934

Posted - Apr 08 2012 :  08:54:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The M203 would be a good deterrent. One BIG splash near one of those boats might change their plans. Not sure what the chances of actually hitting one would be though.

I'd be more in favor of a machine gun of some type. While it would be nice, you don't have to blow up the boat, just hit a few of the crew, and the more rounds you can put out there the better your chances are.


Willie. She's a tired old barge but she's paid for!

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DeeVee

RO# 645

Posted - Apr 08 2012 :  09:57:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dealing with pirates on their small fast maneuver boats, a big bulky machine guns may not be a better choice for the guards though. When you throw some of those grenades down, unless those pirates are dumb enough to hang around, I think they'd just turn tails and heading other direction.


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stmbtwle

RO# 7934

Posted - Apr 08 2012 :  10:56:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Agree...

Though I do admit the assault rifles did the job in that case, are VERY portable and not all that expensive. I'm guessing cost is an important factor and heavier weapons with more ammunition are going to get pricey.


Willie. She's a tired old barge but she's paid for!

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rduhon

RO# 29321

Posted - Apr 08 2012 :  12:11:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Small weapons like that can be deadly, in the hands of correctly trained individuals.
Warning shots were not what I think are a good idea, in my opinion.
What if the pirates decided to shot back with RPG's?
I say, hit the who ever is on the topsides. Then the engine. If you are going to waste
ammo, make it count. Don't film it. Let the Sharks have a good meal.



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SCORPIO

RO# 4810



Posted - Apr 08 2012 :  13:46:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A good 50cal sniper rifle and/or a 50 cal machine gun would really compliment the M16s or AR15s they were using. A few hits from a 50 on the hull, engine or 'soft targets' on board, would have turned that launch into tooth picks and or neutrallized it.

Chris USPS AP

Homeport: Lewes, Delaware Go to Top of Page

L. Keith

RO# 1615

Posted - Apr 08 2012 :  18:55:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The bad guys did not take the defended vessel. Fire discipline could have been better, but the on board security team earned their pay. PS this was not US flag vessel.



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Ghost

RO# 689



Posted - Apr 08 2012 :  22:22:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Okay after 31 books set in the napoleonic wars (Aubrey/maturin, hornblower), I admit my thoughts are a bit colored. That said, it seems to me that with all these modern weapons, none seem to be quite as effective or awe inspiring a couple century throwback to a naval 32 pounder cannon loaded with grape. One shot could clear the decks of more than fifty men. The psychological effect is even greater.

BOOM!

Where did the pirate go?


What part of GALE WARNING did you not understand?

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Capt. Bill1

RO# 2017

Posted - Apr 23 2012 :  08:12:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://gcaptain.com/somali-fisherman-issued-cards/?32256



The two most common elements on Earth are oxygen and stupidity.

Great, now take it to NBR.

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friendship

RO# 15917

Posted - Apr 23 2012 :  09:22:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Act like a fishing vessel, no problem. Act like a patrol boat, problem!


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Philyteach

RO# 11439



Posted - Apr 23 2012 :  09:28:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ghost

Okay after 31 books set in the napoleonic wars (Aubrey/maturin, hornblower), I admit my thoughts are a bit colored. That said, it seems to me that with all these modern weapons, none seem to be quite as effective or awe inspiring a couple century throwback to a naval 32 pounder cannon loaded with grape. One shot could clear the decks of more than fifty men. The psychological effect is even greater.

BOOM!

Where did the pirate go?



Pirates? What pirates? We're just high seas battle buffs. It was a reenactment :)


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stmbtwle

RO# 7934

Posted - Apr 23 2012 :  09:48:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the 32 pounder with grape was the 18th century equivalent of a CIWS, which does about the same thing. Just sounds a bit different.

They are both pretty expensive, and not exactly portable (aye, there's the rub).


Willie. She's a tired old barge but she's paid for!

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