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RWS

RO# 25075



Posted - Apr 28 2012 :  11:52:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My 1983 Trojan International Express Cruiser is suffering from grey formicaitis.

Her solid grey countertops are dull, tired and have a few small chips and stains.

Specifically in the cockpit the solid grey factory wetbar countertop, (and hinged access lid), matching helm seat pedestals and in the salon, the galley countertop and dinette top are really ready.

I've been intrigued by the vast assortment of floor type coverings available today. A trip to Lowes is exciting, just looking at the wood veneer flooring, 21st century vinyl flooring, tiles and even the newest stlyes of formica sheets available.

The challenge with this series Trojan is that every surface is curved. The counter edges and inside "L" corners, and every other single corner has the curve. Even the removable "lid" for the built into the counter trashcan is a round one.

I do not want to lose this design feature and I already own a router. Should I simply get to work on ordering some new formica type laminate?

Should I tear everything out and use the old countertops as patterns for new Corian?

Has someone here used alternative products that might make for an attractive and durable surface?

It's not a lot of square footage, but is a lot of detail and I really want to make her look nice.

THANKS !

RWS
1983 Trojan International 10 Meter
Twin Yanmar 315 Turbodiesels
Solid Glass Hull
Woodless Stringers
Full Hull Liner

Edited by - RWS on Jun 14 2012 20:53:31

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jpowell

RO# 15168



Posted - Apr 28 2012 :  12:37:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd tear it out and use the old pieces as templates for a solid surface synthetic. Corian or another or equal. You can put any type of curved edge on it with your router. Really can't do that with stone as a DIY. Can't do it with formica at all unless you know something I don't.

Jay Powell
Wellcraft Martinique 30'
The World Ends in 2012 !

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littlebookworm

RO# 27413

Posted - Apr 28 2012 :  13:23:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd suggest you shoot some photos, take measurements, and go over to your local kitchen cabinet/counter shop. They'll be able to give you some recommendations and costs for replacement. Just like you would do for your kitchen counter, you're going to have to eventually remove the present counters for templating. They might be able to use your old counters are templates, but I doubt it. They usually make templates our of 1/4" or 3/16" plywood. Unless you're really handy and experienced with power tools, I'd suggest you leave it to the experts, even if you use synthetic countertops. Hy


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KiDa

RO# 16492



Posted - Apr 28 2012 :  13:44:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know how good this stuff is, but it may be worth taking a look into.

http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=208

I forget which mag I was reading that did a kitchen remodel on a budget and this (or like but different brand) is what they used. It didn't look half bad when they were done.

Of course if money is no object, go with granite.


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David
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JeffN

RO# 3672



Posted - Apr 28 2012 :  20:23:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Corian OR, think about a good faux finisher doing a new durable finish in almost any color/texture-limitless & unique possibilities.

some examples:

http://www.dannylipford.com/diy-faux-granite-finish-for-kitchen-countertops/

Do a google and see what pops up-probably have some youtube demos also no doubt.


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Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Apr 28 2012 :  20:55:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I agree Corian is the way to go! or other like material. Mine is holding up very well and looks good.

Dave

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KiDa

RO# 16492



Posted - Apr 29 2012 :  08:22:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If there is a resale involved somewhere down the road, Corian is a dated material. I don't see it in newer boats at the shows. Doesn't mean I don't like it. The stuff is pretty much indestructible. Just saying.



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David
Saint Max
'99 330 Sundancer

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-- Me

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jpowell

RO# 15168



Posted - Apr 29 2012 :  08:56:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
KidA

What type of countertop material are you seeing on new boats at boat shows ?

Jay


Jay Powell
Wellcraft Martinique 30'
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JeffN

RO# 3672



Posted - Apr 29 2012 :  08:57:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And corian is resurface-able with sanding/polishing. Granite is too heavy in these times of $5 gas.

When I was 5 years old, my mother always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down "happy." They told me I didn’t understand the assignment, and I told them they didn’t understand life. ~John Lennon

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KiDa

RO# 16492



Posted - Apr 29 2012 :  13:29:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jpowell

KidA

What type of countertop material are you seeing on new boats at boat shows ?

Jay



Depends on the price point and size. Synthetic granite, quartz, granite laminate on a honeycomb bed.

I've seen some synthetic material that is none of the above but could not find out what it was on some mid size express cruisers. Pretty sharp looking and matched the color scheme of the boat really well.


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David
Saint Max
'99 330 Sundancer

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Capitalism is to this administration what Judaism was to the Third Reich.

-- Me

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oneillch

RO# 30796

Posted - Apr 30 2012 :  12:55:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you frequently lay hot pans on your countertops? If not, why are you looking to add unnecessary weight and incur the cost of a solid surface material? The original reason why these materials were used for coutnertops was because the don't melt or scratch like plastic laminate. Be informed....granite, unless you seal it properly will stain and marble should be professionally polished periodically.

Unless you're trying to make a statement, there are plenty of laminates on the market that will give you a more contemporary look at half the price. Go online and look at Formica, Wilson Art, Nevamar and see what they offer. And before you remove anything, go into a cabinet showroom (not one of the box stores), talk to the owner and see what he has to offer you as far as services, materials, installation and costs. Depending on the laminate or material, you can do different types of details.

Good luck!

Lady C



Edited by - oneillch on Apr 30 2012 13:01:43

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RWS

RO# 25075



Posted - Jun 14 2012 :  20:59:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all the teriffic info.

I tried one last direction... (photos below)

1. barkeepers friend

2. tilex

3. magic eraser (the wonder product)

4. COUNTERTOP MAGIC

soaked the laminate countertops LIBERALLY and allowed it to soak in, but not to dry.

REAL DIFFERENCE !

we're good for yet another season.

now the wetbar outside, that's another story.....

photos follow.

THANKS !

RWS
















1983 Trojan International 10 Meter
Twin Yanmar 315 Turbodiesels
Solid Glass Hull
Woodless Stringers
Full Hull Liner

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Billylll

RO# 24494

Posted - Jun 15 2012 :  07:37:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My boat has the original Corian it looks great and when it starts looking old
I simply compound and wax it. I did reface all the doors and cabinets in a black satin metal
type material that looks fantastic it was really hard to work with.
Bill


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Sedan Bridge
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maxumaa

RO# 24188

Posted - Jun 15 2012 :  07:50:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bill,
I was thinking of compounding my corian as well. Did you use a wheel on it or do it by hand?
Thanks,
Keith



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