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CurrentSea
RO# 10265
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 16:52:07
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Downloaded inavx. Not sure I like it. The zoom feature just zooms in to the chart but it really doesn't expand it. So a small channel still looks small.
On chart plotter on boat the zoom is more like actual distance. Perhaps the vector is better?
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2009 Regal 4080
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Homeport: Anchorage YC - Lindenhurst, NY
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 17:52:59
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When you use two fingers and stretch the chart out, things like a channel became larger... Not sure I understand what the issue is
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 18:44:22
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Dave try what Pascal is saying it should do what I think you are trying to do. Dave I think you will like the IPad but will soon realize it will never replace the MFD possibly smaller chartplotters on small vessels but I doubt it.
Bill
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WirelessOne,
40 Mainship
Sedan Bridge
Little Egg, N.J. |
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Homeport: Tuckerton, N.J.
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mixman
RO# 25362
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 19:45:57
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I really do love the iPad 3 we have, although we do not use it as a chartplotter. I'm curious as to what those that you that are using it as your primary chartplotter are using to feed GPS information to your VHF radios for DSC/Rescue 21?
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--Kurt
17 knot cruise at 5mpg (3.5/gph). Two hulls are better than one! |
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Homeport: Chesapeake Bay
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CurrentSea
RO# 10265
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 20:12:29
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Two fingers stretch it. I know about that but it doesn't spread the channel. Because its a picture it just magnifys it. Boat will cover the buoy when it goes thru the channel. Channel on my mfd gets wider to a point where it is actual distance. Unless I am doing something wrong.
Here I am in my marina:
It doesn't seem to scale right.
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2009 Regal 4080
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Homeport: Anchorage YC - Lindenhurst, NY
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jmeirhofer
RO# 30972
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 20:23:42
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Looking at the screen shot, in order to zoom like your mfd, you use the + sign in the too left corner.
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John
1997 Trojan 440 Express
"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter
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Homeport: Baltimore, MD
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 20:41:51
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i just checked, that's because this chart is the best chart that's available for this spot. can't get more details that are available
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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CurrentSea
RO# 10265
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 20:42:32
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It says best chart displayed.
I think it's how raster works.
Maybe vector is better. But do you see what I am saying?
With vector I think channel grows in scale
Am I making sense or doing something wrong?
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2009 Regal 4080
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Homeport: Anchorage YC - Lindenhurst, NY
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CurrentSea
RO# 10265
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 Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 20:56:15
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quote:
Originally posted by PascalG
i just checked, that's because this chart is the best chart that's available for this spot. can't get more details that are available
So would vector be the same? I am curios to compare vector and raster on a channel we all know.
So here is entrance to watch hill marina.
Anyone have a vector view of this?
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2009 Regal 4080
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Homeport: Anchorage YC - Lindenhurst, NY
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CurrentSea
RO# 10265
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 20:58:59
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Don't get me wrong it's nice to have the real paper charts and see where you are on them but for navigation it seems awkward when you zoom in and the buoy is bigger than your boat. Also you can't keep boat in channel on chart.
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2009 Regal 4080
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Homeport: Anchorage YC - Lindenhurst, NY
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CurrentSea
RO# 10265
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 21:06:05
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Here is the pic jmeirhofer posted of his home marina
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2009 Regal 4080
Volvo Diesel IPS |
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Homeport: Anchorage YC - Lindenhurst, NY
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 21:23:24
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which one do you prefer?
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Edited by - PascalG on Jun 08 2012 21:23:43 |
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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jmeirhofer
RO# 30972
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 21:45:42
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When I zoom in with the Navionics app I get even more detail. And that is using the pinch not a zoom button. The pic where my slip is in Canton can be xoomed in a little bit more. But then that is to close. It is only $4.99. I have tried a half dozen apps so far. If I break down and get the Ipad 3 I may try the eseacharts too. But right now I have to say for the boating I am doing I like the Navionics best.
Kurt, that is a good point about the DSC. But I wonder how many have their radios connected. Honestly, I have not investigated to see if mine is although both the plotter and radio are standard horizon and of the same vintage.
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John
1997 Trojan 440 Express
"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter
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Homeport: Baltimore, MD
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abalmuth
RO# 13885
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Posted - Jun 08 2012 : 22:49:19
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I just tried Charts and tides & Navionics - they both pitch zoom and keep scale
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Cruisers 5000 Sedan Sport/CAT 12LTR's -
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
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Homeport: Long Island, NY
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jun 09 2012 : 05:00:17
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Not having your DSC properly connected can be a game changer in an emergency. Most modern MFD's
are including WiFi so you can run apps on your Android or Apple devices and they charge more
for this not less. By the way guys most of these map programs are available for many of
the existing modern MFD's.
Bill
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WirelessOne,
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Little Egg, N.J. |
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Homeport: Tuckerton, N.J.
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CurrentSea
RO# 10265
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Posted - Jun 09 2012 : 11:03:46
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I think I like Andy's second pic the best. . What app is that? Navionics? Why are there little pink du ks all over the screen? See how the channel appears wide. I want the channel width to adjust. When your in fog and can't see buoys its nice to zoom in and see a prior track. On my mfd i can see every track where with inavx I can see where my tracks will quickly bury the channel.
I think it's a good idea to have raster and vector available. Charts can give a little more detail I feel as they are maintained by NOAA and the app is always getting the latest version. I wonder if the same is true for vector.
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Homeport: Anchorage YC - Lindenhurst, NY
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mixman
RO# 25362
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Posted - Jun 09 2012 : 11:16:05
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quote:
Originally posted by jmeirhofer
Kurt, that is a good point about the DSC. But I wonder how many have their radios connected. Honestly, I have not investigated to see if mine is although both the plotter and radio are standard horizon and of the same vintage.
I think I've read it's less than 10%, which is a real shame. When the poop hits the fan, I'd rather push one button for help and then go about my business of dealing with the poop rather than being stuck on the radio. If you're at the boat next weekend I'll be happy to take a look at your system. It's only one or two wires to connect. I have Garmin and SH and I know the systems well.
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--Kurt
17 knot cruise at 5mpg (3.5/gph). Two hulls are better than one! |
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Homeport: Chesapeake Bay
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mixman
RO# 25362
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Posted - Jun 09 2012 : 11:19:42
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quote:
Originally posted by Billylll
Not having your DSC properly connected can be a game changer in an emergency.
Exactly. Plus, we boat off-shore at times. I do not want anything that relies on cell towers. And I really, really like having XM weather on my chartplotter via satellite.
BTW,Bill, Globalstar is 6 satellites away from 100% coverage again. I'm still paying $25/month for unlimited voice and data.
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--Kurt
17 knot cruise at 5mpg (3.5/gph). Two hulls are better than one! |
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Homeport: Chesapeake Bay
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jun 09 2012 : 11:28:22
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Rub it in Kurt! I should have held onto the SeaTel unit. However
I think once they are fully launched you will see their rates increase as well!
I hope not for your sake.
Fleet Broadband is $55 a month with real limits and $13.00 a mb. They are rumoured to raise their
rates again as much as 30%. Don't get me wrong the fb150 works flawlessly and I would stake my
life on a call to 505# the emergency center. FB is 100% reliable but it costs so much it hurts!
Bill
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WirelessOne,
40 Mainship
Sedan Bridge
Little Egg, N.J. |
Edited by - Billylll on Jun 09 2012 11:29:21 |
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Homeport: Tuckerton, N.J.
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mixman
RO# 25362
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Posted - Jun 09 2012 : 11:32:15
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Bill, I agree that the rates will go up. They actually raised me from $25 to $35/month while we were in the Bahamas last month. I called and they dropped the rate back down for "an unknown time". If you want that SeaTel antenna back, just let me know. I am still using my "car antenna" system on my boat as I do not have room for the SeaTel antenna. It is in storage at my office an it's yours as far as I'm concerned. I'll ship it back if you want it. Otherwise, I'm saving it for our "next" boat :-)
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--Kurt
17 knot cruise at 5mpg (3.5/gph). Two hulls are better than one! |
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Homeport: Chesapeake Bay
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PascalG
RO# 12212
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Posted - Jun 09 2012 : 11:47:45
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i'm all for DSC but i'd like to be sure that actual REAL WORLD USCG response will be as fast as a VHF call. somehow, i'm not so sure it's at that level yet.
a DSC will result in a Pan Pan and attempts to reach you but i doubt they will launch assets on a DSC call alone. I hope i'm wrong...
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Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper
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Homeport: Miami, FL
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jun 09 2012 : 12:34:22
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The problem around here is I have only heard one DSC call where the information was entered properly
and the USCG responded. It was quick they did verify coordinates with the vessel in distress. The other
99 plus calls have been someone pushed an unprogrammed DSC button and did one of 2 things properly called the CG and told them they made a mistake and other's where Pan Pan's were issued and assets were wasted.
In the real world DSC is great not just for the CG but vessels like mine that alert me to the DSC call, identify the MMSI and take me to the vessels position on the MFD in relation to mine.
So it's not just the CG that can help with DSC calls it is other well equipped pleasure & commercial vessels.
Not programming your radio and integrating it with GPS for DSC operation is well in my opinion plain old irresponsible lazy & stupid putting you and your passengers at peril.
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WirelessOne,
40 Mainship
Sedan Bridge
Little Egg, N.J. |
Edited by - Billylll on Jun 09 2012 12:41:56 |
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Homeport: Tuckerton, N.J.
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jun 09 2012 : 12:43:53
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Kurt as much as I would love to have it back I am not an Idian Giver (no offense to Elizabeth Warren)it's yours.
Bill
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WirelessOne,
40 Mainship
Sedan Bridge
Little Egg, N.J. |
Edited by - Billylll on Jun 09 2012 16:09:05 |
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Homeport: Tuckerton, N.J.
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abalmuth
RO# 13885
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Posted - Jun 09 2012 : 13:24:51
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quote:
Originally posted by CurrentSea
I think I like Andy's second pic the best. . What app is that? Navionics? Why are there little pink du ks all over the screen? See how the channel appears wide. I want the channel width to adjust. When your in fog and can't see buoys its nice to zoom in and see a prior track. On my mfd i can see every track where with inavx I can see where my tracks will quickly bury the channel.
I think it's a good idea to have raster and vector available. Charts can give a little more detail I feel as they are maintained by NOAA and the app is always getting the latest version. I wonder if the same is true for vector.
Second one is Navionics HD
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Cruisers 5000 Sedan Sport/CAT 12LTR's -
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak......... |
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Homeport: Long Island, NY
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CurrentSea
RO# 10265
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Posted - Jun 09 2012 : 13:46:03
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Think I will get that one. Looks nicer.
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2009 Regal 4080
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Homeport: Anchorage YC - Lindenhurst, NY
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jmeirhofer
RO# 30972
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Posted - Jun 09 2012 : 14:11:49
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quote:
Originally posted by mixman
Bill, I agree that the rates will go up. They actually raised me from $25 to $35/month while we were in the Bahamas last month. I called and they dropped the rate back down for "an unknown time". If you want that SeaTel antenna back, just let me know. I am still using my "car antenna" system on my boat as I do not have room for the SeaTel antenna. It is in storage at my office an it's yours as far as I'm concerned. I'll ship it back if you want it. Otherwise, I'm saving it for our "next" boat :-)
We will be there Friday afternoon until Sunday sometime. You can check it out if you like and it will be most appreciated, but please don't feel obligated to stop by just for that. I look forward to finally meeting you in person.
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John
1997 Trojan 440 Express
"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter
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Homeport: Baltimore, MD
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danielcooper9
RO# 24397
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Posted - Jun 11 2012 : 08:08:05
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Anyone use EarthNC? It looks like it have a lot of features for $20, including a weather overlay. It has pretty good reviews on the itunes store but I am waiting for the company to respond if it will work with an Ipad and the Xgps150.
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CurrentSea
RO# 10265
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Posted - Jun 11 2012 : 19:29:21
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Will the xgps150 work with any map software for road use?
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2009 Regal 4080
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Homeport: Anchorage YC - Lindenhurst, NY
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jun 11 2012 : 19:35:38
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quote:
Originally posted by CurrentSea
Will the xgps150 work with any map software for road use?
It should it's simply outputs GPS in a format the IPad can communicate receive.
Bill
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WirelessOne,
40 Mainship
Sedan Bridge
Little Egg, N.J. |
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Homeport: Tuckerton, N.J.
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Mantle107
RO# 32629
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Posted - Jun 11 2012 : 20:20:37
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I still don't know which app is the best?!"
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"Searching"
2003 Four Winns 268 - Sold
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Homeport: NY
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CurrentSea
RO# 10265
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Posted - Jul 02 2012 : 16:24:11
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So here is my review using inavx for 3 cruises.
I love it!
I bought a $8 suction mount on eBay.
The accuracy is amazing.
Much better picture than my ray marine.
It's mounted up high so I can see it.
I do like vector charts as they seem to have better accuracy for depths and contours.
Pic of mount but hard to see chart on iPad. I see it clear as day.
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2009 Regal 4080
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Homeport: Anchorage YC - Lindenhurst, NY
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Ted Williams
RO# 22065
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Posted - Jul 04 2012 : 11:07:34
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I just received an email from Jeppesen announcing their release of an ipad / iphone app: "Plan2Nav" that looks interesting. The app is free and only available through the App Store. The C-Map Charts for the East coast and Bahamas are $29.95 and may be downloaded only through the app. I've downloaded the manual but it says nothing about chart updates. What I like are the seamless chart integration and the course-up navigation option. It does not appear to integrate with Active Captain. I do plan to download it and can provide a more thorough review after some use.
Here's their website:
http://ww1.jeppesen.com/marine/lightmarine/mobile-devices-charts.jsp
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Ted Williams
Silverton 442 / Cat 3126's
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Homeport: Topsail Island, NC
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kgd
RO# 29830
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Posted - Jul 11 2012 : 19:41:22
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I have both the Navionics HD and Charts & Tides on my iPad. At least for the San Fransico Bay Area and the inland Delta the Navionics HD has a lot more detail. It has significantly more detail than my on board chart plotter. The Navionics seems to have a lot more features than the Charts and Tides. I really like being able to record save and name tracks which I couldn't figure out how to do in Charts and Tides. I also added a Bluetooth audio receiver that is plugged into my stereo system so I can also make all my music selections from the iPad. My course computer has been in for repair and I have been using the iPad as my sole source of navigation the last month, really nice to have.
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