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ply17410
RO# 16163
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Posted - Jun 11 2012 : 07:53:53
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Anyone with a factory installed Raymarine autopilot?
I'm looking for an answer on two things:
1) Where was the flux-gate compass mounted?
2) Where was the course computer mounted?
Thanks,
Bob H
P.S. I know where mine are mounted, and am having difficulty with the compass swing procedure. I think the compass for sure is in a bad place. My system was not factory installed.
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CACHAÇA
L'Esperance, VI
Regal 3560
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Edited by - ply17410 on Jun 11 2012 07:55:13
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Homeport: Treasure Island Marina - U. Mississippi MM 798.2
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Bob2135
RO# 27047
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Posted - Jun 11 2012 : 09:09:52
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Bob,
I have a 2008 Four Winns 378V with the same Raymarine systems. My system is factory installed, the compass is mounted below my salon floor on a stringer adjacent to my fresh water tank. The course computer is mounted on my port side, mid ship, behind a closet close to the hull.
I have the EXACT same issue with my system. the compass swings wildly, making my chartplotter swing in circles, I have tried the swing calibration more times than I can count, can not get the system to calibrate. I try to reset the autopilot using the 'seatrial' calibration and apply my GPS heading, but that only sometimes sticks and works.
Last week I broke down and called the local raymarine tech, I am going to pay to have him come down to fix this damn thing. He stated on the phone that he could do it quite easily. So we will see. I will re-post here what I find out.
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2008 378 Vista
IPS 500 D6 Volvo-Penta
"Not 2 SHABI" |
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Homeport: Wabasha, MN
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vic33004
RO# 27361
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 Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 11:05:47
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the location of the course computer is not relavant to the swing procedure if it is functioning correctly. regal placed my course computer on a 4260 under the dash and that caused problems as result of moisture exposure. the fluxgate is problematic to get it far enought away from metal and magnetic fields. if you can relocate it to the center of the boat on a stringer its likely to be the fartharest from interferance coupled with the least amount of boat motion.
another alternative is to use a gyro stabilized compass placed farther away from metal/magnetic fields which would mean further forward.
is the magnetic heading reading the only issue you are having? if so, my advice is to disregard it and pay attention to the COG heading that is derived from the GPS.
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Vic33004
02 Regal 4260 |
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Homeport: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Kenpcfl
RO# 12978
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Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 11:35:53
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On my 3560, the factory autopilot computer was mounted behind the dash panel... down low to the left side of the helm. The factory authorized a local tech to add the fluxgate compass a couple of months later. He installed the compass in the same area --behind the helm down low to the left side. Every thing worked properly.
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Homeport: Panama City, FL
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ply17410
RO# 16163
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Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 11:55:34
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Kenpcfl,
Thanks! They put my course computer directly behind the C80 display and it is not vertical due to the mounting wall there is angled. They put the compass in the electrical cabinet down in the cabin!
I'm going to assess the location you posted on, could be an easy move.
To Bob2135 ... There is a basic diagnostic process using a volt meter and testing the leads on the compass that can be done. I have not done this yet but intend to do so.
http://www.raymarine.com/default.aspx?site=1§ion=3&page=2061
I too have done the compass swing more times than I can count and cannot get 'success'.
Let me know the tech you used ... I'm not too far north from you. If I can't get this resolved with moving the hardware I'll be needing his assistance.
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CACHAÇA
L'Esperance, VI
Regal 3560
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Edited by - ply17410 on Jun 14 2012 12:00:44 |
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Homeport: Treasure Island Marina - U. Mississippi MM 798.2
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jun 14 2012 : 18:03:41
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Can't speak for the Raymarine magnetic position sensor/compass I went with a NMEA2000 Maretron heading sensor and haven't had a single issue. It is located just right of center in the salon under the small L of the sofabed cabinet pedestal.
Bill
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Sedan Bridge
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Homeport: Tuckerton, N.J.
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Bob2135
RO# 27047
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Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 11:10:56
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Ply,
Here is the link for the Raymarine TECH (Dan) that I called. He is in Stillwater, MN. I have an appointment with him on our boat in Wabasha this Saturday morning. I will let you know how it goes. http://www.maritronicsonline.com/
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2008 378 Vista
IPS 500 D6 Volvo-Penta
"Not 2 SHABI" |
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Homeport: Wabasha, MN
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Bob2135
RO# 27047
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Posted - Jun 15 2012 : 11:15:53
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Hey VIC,
your right on most accounts in your post, however, I have been unable to seperate the Raymarine E80 Chartplotter functions from the fluxgate compass. By this I mean, the orientation and boat icon headings are directly tied to the fluxgate compass heading...even though the chartplotter is correctly reading a COG heading from the GPS, the map orientation is not tied to this COG GPS reading...do you have a suggestion to remedy that. Because of the fluxgate compass issue, the Chartplotter will spin in circles until the fluxgate compass settles down, then it appears that the chart is moving sideways across the chartplotter because of the misorientation caused by the fluxgate compass. this is quite anoying if you experience it! In fact my wife (admiral) even said it is time to fix the damn thing...and she doesnt care about the gizmos very much! LOL
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2008 378 Vista
IPS 500 D6 Volvo-Penta
"Not 2 SHABI" |
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Homeport: Wabasha, MN
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Billylll
RO# 24494
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Posted - Jun 16 2012 : 07:57:57
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Here is what I found while trying to research this issue
Finally found the solution. Turns out the autopilot dumped the memory, and so had to be completely recalibrated. Dockside calibration, then compass calibration at sea with a couple of circles to get deviation.
The solution came from the raymarine help line while sitting on the boat.
Rebooting didn't give me any changes, so I eventually called the help line. After about 15 minutes they had it figured out and so all is now good.
Another poster on another forum said his acted up whenever he used the microwave while on autopilot.
I don't use a Raymarine AP or MFD but Garmin equipment and I have used the KVH NMEA0183 heading sensor (fluxgate) and the Maretron and have never had a problem with either.
I prefer the Maretron.
Bill
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WirelessOne,
40 Mainship
Sedan Bridge
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Edited by - Billylll on Jun 16 2012 07:59:23 |
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Homeport: Tuckerton, N.J.
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ply17410
RO# 16163
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Posted - Jun 19 2012 : 09:39:07
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BillyIII,
Can't do complete calibration because the basic compass swing (first part of the process) will not complete successfully. I have tried a complete reset off all settings too. (Unless there is some other obscure reset button I am not aware of)
This is what Bob2135 is also reporting.
Regards,
Bob H
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CACHAÇA
L'Esperance, VI
Regal 3560
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Edited by - ply17410 on Jun 19 2012 09:41:56 |
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Homeport: Treasure Island Marina - U. Mississippi MM 798.2
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vic33004
RO# 27361
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Posted - Jun 20 2012 : 06:40:25
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bob, it sounds to me like you have an issue that is likely a bad fluxgate or a malfunction on your E80. I would call raymarine customer service or talk with one of their people at a larger boat show and describe what you posted. my guess is they will suggest you send one or both units up to them for bench testing. if you can find another fluxgate and temp mount it somewhere on the cabin floor and see if it fixes the problem. if you have a local electronics dealer in your area they may have a used one they can lend you to validate this. i think if you were getting magnetic interferance from the mounting point it would simply throw off your alignment to some degree rather than make it spin.
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Vic33004
02 Regal 4260 |
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Homeport: Fort Lauderdale, FL
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Bob2135
RO# 27047
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Posted - Jul 09 2012 : 14:41:11
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Well, Good to meet you in person this weekend Bob. We have resolved our electronic issue. It was a faulty compass. The Raymarine TECH came to the boat, tested course computer, and vaious connections with ohm meter, and determined that there was a fault in the circuts of the compass. Ordered new compass, installed, and viola....one and half circles got a deviation of 1 degree, and perfect compass vs. GPS track! Too easy when everything works!
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2008 378 Vista
IPS 500 D6 Volvo-Penta
"Not 2 SHABI" |
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Homeport: Wabasha, MN
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