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bobalong

RO# 19429

Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  07:43:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
While I'm on the subject of slip etiquette. (earlier thread on slip helpers) We have a 40' C Craft cruiser. No flybridge, just a roomy cockpit, it's our outdoor boat patio.
I am really tempted to turn the boat around in it's slip and face our patio (cockpit) toward the water. That's where the best view is. I can also play my stereo with less concern for disturbing others. I really don't have a need to see everyone walking down the dock. And the view of the houseboat foredeck & lawn chairs across from us is what it is. When I have a need to be social I can grab my cocktail and take a stroll. Or come see me if you want to visit. Drinks are free :)

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BoatCrazy

RO# 30843



Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  08:05:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As long as you can get onto the boat with out trouble, I say why not. I know some marinas frown upon bow in, and others require bow in or stern in only. I know the bow pulpit could be a "safety" issue if it over hangs the dock...



"It is what it is and it aint what it aint"

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Maxwell

RO# 31042



Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  08:16:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Even though I prefer to dock stern to, at our home marina we generally bow in due to the fact that our slip goes east/west and I'd rather have the afternoon sun/sunset on the stern/cockpit area. I have permanent power cables attached to the dock that make this easier. Currently I am on a 5 week trip where I'll be visiting numerous marinas and will be sterning in wherever I go due to the ease of sterning in while single handing, the social aspect (I'm running alone most of the time and its easier to meet other boaters)as well as the fact that I don't feel like dragging the entire 50amp power cable every time I want to leave the slip.

max



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caltexfla

RO# 14522



Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  08:17:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am the only bow-in boat on my dock, we go bow in when we are cruising 99% of the time. The 1% is when no finger piers. For one thing, our boat's utility hook ups are designed to feed off the sides or off the bow, For another, we prefer the view from the aft deck to the water, and having the quiet and privacy in our aft master stateroom.


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manticore999

RO# 17103



Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  08:22:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At our marina about 99% of boats are bow-in for exactly the reasons you mentioned. Who wants to see everyone walking down the docks, not to mention the fact that everyone walking down the docks has a great view into your boat too? I can't imagine wanting to be stern in.

I'm not afraid to die. I'm afraid to be alive without being aware of it.

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Billylll

RO# 24494

Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  08:23:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Make sure your power cords and water lines will reach without exceeding 50 feet. At our marina as long as your bow pulpit/ anchor are not hanging over the floating docks you are allowed either bow in or stern in. I have the best spot in the marina I am parallel to the main dock on the right side there is only one other boat docked like me about 40 feet behind me. The starboard side and cockpit views are great. The camera high on the salons exterior wall allows me to keep tabs on the boats cockpit and the main dock behind us.
I would say ask the marina manager 1st if he approves do it.
Bill


WirelessOne,
40 Mainship
Sedan Bridge
Little Egg, N.J.

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rawidman

RO# 25110

Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  08:34:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If your marina has no rules or policy on which way boats must dock, dock it whichever way you want to. Don't let anything overhang the dock where it might be a danger to people walking on the dock.

All the people who lease slips at my marina dock stern to. It's not a rule, it's just how they do it.

Dry stack customers who take a slip for the day or weekend dock either way, based on their boat handling experience. Some dock sideways!


Ron
2000 Camano Troll

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rommer

RO# 12280



Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  08:50:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lets see, I can look out my door, sit in my cockpit and look at the NYC skyline or stare at the dock and count the people that walk by????? Luckily our boat works either way so we currently choose bow in. I think I'm 1 of only 2 boats on our dock that makes this choice but it works for us. I could care less what others think about it too.


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Golfman25

RO# 1239

Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  09:34:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I go bow in. Several reasons. Afternoon shade. Better view. I go to the boat to get away -- Don't really want to socialize with every tom, dick and harry. Easier to fish off the back. So I say go ahead and turn around. Good luck.


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Billylll

RO# 24494

Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  09:46:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Golfman25

I go bow in. Several reasons. Afternoon shade. Better view. I go to the boat to get away -- Don't really want to socialize with every tom, dick and harry. Easier to fish off the back. So I say go ahead and turn around. Good luck.


We used to keep to ourselves, but the last 2 years we have met many nice people at the marina. I have privilages many don't but as I have mentioned my boat is used as a sales demo for the marina repower division and electronic systems I help install. We always get advance notice if the marina wants to bring someone aboard and we can say no. My docking arrangement is pretty nice other then it's real tight swinging the boat 180 degrees to be parallel to the dock with the port side of the boat. I can use 25' shore cords and water line pointed either way if the starboard is against the dock (rarely) my AC and water lines are could be shorter.
Bill


WirelessOne,
40 Mainship
Sedan Bridge
Little Egg, N.J.

Edited by - Billylll on Jul 09 2012 10:07:58

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PascalG

RO# 12212



Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  10:06:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I sterned in for years but have been bow in for 3 years or so. A little harder to board as the finger is too short. I had to move the Marquipt stairs 12' forwrd which causes issues due to the sheer (doesn't reach low enough at high tide)

But being how in gives us nicer city view, more breeze, more shade in the afternoon, more privacy and most importantly allows us to tie the cat boat to the swim platform coming in and out under sail

One thing to consider before bowing in is how exposed the slip is.


Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper

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abalmuth

RO# 13885



Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  10:41:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We stern in for a couple of reasons, the dock fingers are 45’, the boat 50’, with 2 dogs its easiest to board via the platform then dealing with steps etc.
From our slip the only people traffic is from 7 boats, most of them very nice and the rest just plane funny. So sitting in the cockpit is like watching live TV.
We spend a lot of time on the bridge where the view 360 degrees and any dock traffic is mostly out of site

There is a 48’ Searay sedan on our dock that bows in because he uses his dink that’s mounted on the platform a lot. He does lower his anchor and leaves it on the dock tied to a cleat.



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until you hear them speak.........

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Perry

RO# 3836



Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  12:19:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
so, is that anchoring or docking...lol


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caltexfla

RO# 14522



Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  17:16:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pascal reminded me of another big reason we like bow-in: we tie the Whaler off to the swim platform and have always used it a lot to explore the surrounding area wherever we are.


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Radioactive

RO# 3238



Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  17:26:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sometimes, bow in is a good plan. At the local dry stack the limited number of slips shoaled rapidly as you got near the bulkhead. While many docked stern in for ease of loading, other more observant boaters docked bow in, so that they would not bury the lower unit at low tide. In "deep" water marinas, this might not be an issue

This also occurred at the marina at Port Eads. Those big sport fisherman types who docked stern in burned a lot of impellers as they dredged their slip.


Bill

"No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Bonzai
"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame

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KiDa

RO# 16492



Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  22:52:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had alway heard stern to was a welcome aboard sign and bow in was an I want privacy sign.

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Woodsong

RO# 20095

Posted - Jul 09 2012 :  23:02:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We always parked the trawler bow in A) b/c it is a single screw and much easier that way, B) access was easiest that way, C) allowed us to sit up on the bridge and have privacy and look out at the water instead of at the roof and the dock.
On our bayliner we have been parking stern in bc it makes access much easier. Plus our windows are so tinted no one can see us sitting in there anyway except at night if we have bright lights on. :) But, with the dog, etc. it is much easier to park the pilothouse stern in first.
I am with the others though- I'd park whichever way afforded me the best view!




~~Let's see...1987 Bayliner 4588 & 1995 Boston Whaler 17' Dauntless, and a few other water toys~~

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Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jul 10 2012 :  07:25:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In my last marina I always docked bow in for the great view of the river in my current marina I stern in for the best view and we enjoy the interaction with our neighbors.

Dave

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stmbtwle

RO# 7934

Posted - Jul 10 2012 :  08:13:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Heck my boat is so slow it looks like it's going backwards anyway.

Willie. She's a tired old barge but she's paid for!

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robedney

RO# 15560



Posted - Jul 10 2012 :  17:43:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Many years ago I lived aboard in Sausalito (lots of tourists). Bow in was pretty standard, as most of the marinas had no gates and boat lovers from all over the planet would roam the docks looking at anything that floated. The only downside was that occasionally I'd hear a knocking on my bow and I'd assume it was a friend from the harbor. Instead it was often a group of tourists. There weren't actually knocking. They were trying to figure out if my hull was well cared for wood or fiberglass.

Robert

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walterv

RO# 12640



Posted - Jul 10 2012 :  20:49:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hey
Whatever works is good. Where I boat I never saw a boat bow in. If bow in is better for you and you can get on and off the boat easily, why not?


And always remember, life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by those moments that take our breath away.

George Carlin

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Billylll

RO# 24494

Posted - Jul 10 2012 :  21:35:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tony great point about tinted windows. I had my car guy do 5% Limo tint. He did a fantastic job. Uses nothing but the best 3M products. I have a car he did 12 years ago that still looks as good as the day he installed the tint. The boat was fairly easy the glass and Lexan windows and double sliding door can not be seen into during the day. However at night with the LED lights on you can see in. We use our custom accordian blinds for the windows and the paded curtain on the rear slider. When it gets real hot we end up having to use the blinds and curtain to keep the heat out. We crack the hatches to keep fresh air flowing. I am thinking about adding a custom exhaust vent above the steps in the doorway. It is the highest point in the boat and right at the rear double glass slider. I think it is at least 15 to 20 degrees warmer up there when standing on the stairs tp work the main breaker panel or to exit to the rear cockpit. I have to remove and re-install the passsenger seat in the bridge for the outside portion of the vent system. I'm thinking of using Qty (4) 4" high volume quiet computer type cooling fans mounted on the interior grill. I need to figure out a way to have a slider fabricated for under the passenger helm seat and build a small fiberglass liner between the helm mold and the interior fiberglass mold. It will require an insect screen. This might be a big undertaking but I think it would really help the salon air conditioner and moving fresh air throughout the entire boat. I guess anyone reading this can tell that my wife and I must be spending too much time on the boat for this type of project! Andy funny you mentioned the comedy of watching the dock neighbors, so true we always have the dock camera on one of the MFDs or monitors in the salon. Where and how we dock only our port side has boat's in the fingers on the other side of the main dock. Since we are parallel to the main dock we have 3 large wheel type bumpers bolted through the dock so we don't need to deal with fenders when docking or even during major storms.
Bill


WirelessOne,
40 Mainship
Sedan Bridge
Little Egg, N.J.

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bobalong

RO# 19429

Posted - Jul 23 2012 :  10:41:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Update. . . .last Tuesday we flipped the boat around in the slip, as near as I can tell we're the only cruiser facing bow in. (few hundred boats at Ky Dam Marina) What a difference !! We enjoyed a breeze we've never had before. With stern IN, the air goes across the top of the windshield and over the cockpit. And the view is of the marina, sky, just a phenominal change. Before, we were looking at the houseboat lawn chairs across from us for our view. We also have some privacy (awsome to enjoy coffee with a view in the morning). Friday night we had six in the cockpit till late, or early depending on your time frame. I can also play my stereo at a low level and not disturb neighbors. I recommend that if you want a little privacy, be a rebel and give it a shot.


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