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BoatCrazy
RO# 30843
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 Posted - Jul 12 2012 : 05:05:47
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Ive gone and replaced my blown evinrude with a lightly used '92 Suzuki DT 140. Seems to be a good motor thus far. 150 compression on all 4cyl.
Since I got the motor, it does not pee out of the pee hole. A new water pump and impeller were done after I got the motor.
Ive put about 10 hours on the motor in the last week, she runs cool as could be so I know there is no overheating issue.
Should I worry? Ive even run the motor WOT for 15 minutes trying to get max RPM and what not, and she still did not overheat....
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Homeport: Long Beach NY
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The Other Gary
RO# 143
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Posted - Jul 12 2012 : 07:30:09
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stick a wire up the pee hole in case it is blocked
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Homeport: Toronto, Lake Ontario
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Prospective
RO# 23085
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Posted - Jul 12 2012 : 08:08:58
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Originally posted by The Other Gary
stick a wire up the pee hole in case it is blocked
+1 on this. I have a small Suk 6hp dink motor and have to do this every season, sometimes more than once. If it's not flushed with fresh water at the end of the season, I think salt crystals clog up there. But once you get water running thru it will rinsed out.
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Twin 3208 CAT Diesels
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Homeport: Barrington, RI
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BoatCrazy
RO# 30843
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Posted - Jul 12 2012 : 08:12:46
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Interesting.
So I am assuming that since the motor is NOT over heating, the water pump and impeller are doing their jobs?
So the water that would be coming out the pee hole, where is it now? It must be pumping, but do not see it leaving...
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Homeport: Long Beach NY
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j-d
RO# 15782
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Posted - Jul 12 2012 : 08:17:13
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I don't know your model, but on a much smaller Zuki (3-cyl, 40-hp, 4-stroke) there were very small cooling lines associated with its EFI system. With a new pump and mud cleaned out of related passages, it still wouldn't pee till we cleaned out those EFI-related lines.
I did not try to figure if plugged lines there would affect actual engine cooling. They were small enough that I'd suspect not.
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God Bless, jd
1996 Sea Ray 215EC
Alpha One GEN II 5.7L/350CID/EFI/220HP
14-1/2*19 Stainless RWC
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Homeport: Sunny Florida
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Sandy
RO# 1159
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Posted - Jul 12 2012 : 11:42:47
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I'd suggest heavy mono (like trimmer string) in place of wire to lessen the chance of puncturing or pushing that indicator hose off the cowling barb. And check inside to make sure the hose is intact and firmly attached and secured with clamp, and the cowling drain holes are really clear.
A few years ago a friend had her professional O/B mechanic commission the same Suzuki DT 140 motor. It later turned out he had not reattached the hose properly, a little fallen excess grease and paintchip debris had clogged the cowling drain holes which is not uncommon, and after running a bit the 1st day , the cowling /hood filled up with enough water from the detached "pee" hose that salt water level was above the air intakes and drowned the engine... which seized up. Mechanic disavowed and it she had to foot the cost of another new engine.
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Homeport: The Vineyard
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BoatCrazy
RO# 30843
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Posted - Jul 14 2012 : 20:23:14
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A simple piece of wire from a weed whacker did the trick. Cleared the hole, and then replaced the rubber hose to assure there was no clog left in there. She runs like a champ now!
Thanks guys!
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Homeport: Long Beach NY
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j-d
RO# 15782
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Posted - Jul 15 2012 : 07:24:14
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Good on you!
TIP! Flush that engine thoroughly, NOT using its built-in hose adapter to flush with the motor not running. Rather, flush it on earmuffs with the engine running. The engine won't flush adequately to get salt out of the cooling passages up in the block. At least on some models. Neighbor asked me to look at his Zuki with a salt track on the upper side of the block. I told him "It's Cracked" and it turned out this low-hours motor had a salt block that expanded to where it split the casting.
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God Bless, jd
1996 Sea Ray 215EC
Alpha One GEN II 5.7L/350CID/EFI/220HP
14-1/2*19 Stainless RWC
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Homeport: Sunny Florida
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BoatCrazy
RO# 30843
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Posted - Jul 15 2012 : 13:45:16
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Only way for me to flush the motor is to haul the boat. She usually stays in the water. How often should I flush her? Once a month?
I only put about 10 hours a month on the boat IF THAT.
My model, does not have the ability to flush using the hose adapter, only can be done on muffs..
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Homeport: Long Beach NY
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mixman
RO# 25362
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Posted - Jul 15 2012 : 15:34:33
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I believe the correct/technical term for the "pee hole" is a "telltale". It's simply a way to know if the water pump is working or not. The engine, as you have proven will/can run fine when a telltale is clogged. But it's obviously a good idea to unclog it. My Hondas clog frequently after we get back each year from Florida/Bahamas due to the amount of calcium in the water. I have a very long twist-tie that always does the trick.
Flushing? I never flush my engines. They run at least once a week every week of the year and are self-draining. If Suzuki's are self-draining too, I wouldn't think it would be an issue.
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Homeport: Chesapeake Bay
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boatbum
RO# 36
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Posted - Jul 15 2012 : 16:32:28
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I was going to recommend Flomax until I read Kurt's update.
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BoatCrazy
RO# 30843
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Posted - Jul 15 2012 : 19:25:43
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Kurt, I knew the name, I enjoy peehole better :)
Ive had outboards no pee out water, however theyve always overheated. In this case, the motor was not overheating, so I was curious.
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Homeport: Long Beach NY
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mixman
RO# 25362
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Posted - Jul 15 2012 : 20:27:00
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Understood. Peehole it is :-)
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Homeport: Chesapeake Bay
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j-d
RO# 15782
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Posted - Jul 16 2012 : 13:56:22
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Motor I found the crack in was a Four-Stroke and this one is Two-Stroke. That, and being kept in the water, might make the flush issue less significant. I have no proof, but I'm starting to think that an OB or I/O kept IN water might experience less internal corrosion than one lifted onto trailer, dry stack or boat lift. Thinking the submerged exhaust cuts off the air supply to the corrosion.
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God Bless, jd
1996 Sea Ray 215EC
Alpha One GEN II 5.7L/350CID/EFI/220HP
14-1/2*19 Stainless RWC
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Homeport: Sunny Florida
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1992 Suzuki DT140 not peeing
