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Kevdon22

RO# 32964

Posted - Sep 11 2012 :  18:23:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am considering purchasing one of those temporary plates that are installed in place of the sea strainer top to winterize engines, etc, via a small connection off the top through which anti freeze is sucked into the engine, etc.

Any one know the source of these temporary plates?

Thanks for leads.
Kevdon
Forked River,
Barnegat Bay
NJ

Homeport: Forked River, NJ

cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Sep 11 2012 :  20:50:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you really need a plate? For years, all I do is close the sea cock, take off the top of the strainer, have someone start the engine while I pour a couple of gallons of fresh water in (to flush) and then a couple of gallons of AF. Just as I'm running out of AF, I yell to kill the engine. Done.


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The_Mayor

RO# 19101

Posted - Sep 11 2012 :  21:07:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I take the hose off the strainer. Connect a long hose (sump pump hose) to it, and then to a funnel up at the dash with me. Pour a gallon in, fire up the engine, and add 2 more while idling.


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DUSTCUTTER

RO# 10885

Posted - Sep 11 2012 :  21:52:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We drilled and threaded one strainer lid. Draw AF directly from 5 gal bucket. One lid fits all strainers. Generator, AC, both motors.

Ron



Homeport: Huron, Ohio Go to Top of Page

Robyns Nest

RO# 4846

Posted - Sep 11 2012 :  22:02:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you have gassers, you can do what cwms says and just start the motor and pour the gallons right into the open strainer. No need for anything else. Did that for 20 years.


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Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Sep 12 2012 :  05:50:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robyns Nest

If you have gassers, you can do what cwms says and just start the motor and pour the gallons right into the open strainer. No need for anything else. Did that for 20 years.



I do this with my diesels as well in fact you told me what to do and this has worked just fine for years.



Dave

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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Sep 12 2012 :  06:46:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have the caps, they used to be made by a company called thoro-flush.
They work good, but were costly.
I have another cap made from starboard with a hose barb on it that a friend made.
Screw it down on cap with a rubber gasket and it works fine too.
So depending on how handy you are, there are a couple of ways to make it.
I have been winterizing my boats like this for years, works fine.


2009 Regal 4080
Volvo Diesel IPS

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C team

RO# 24911

Posted - Sep 12 2012 :  07:02:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hate all this talking about winterization this soon, but I guess i know it's coming.

I winterize through my seacocks that have Groco flush kits and it also acts as an emergency bilge pump.



Craig

"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."
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HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Sep 12 2012 :  07:14:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Audrey II

quote:
Originally posted by Robyns Nest

If you have gassers, you can do what cwms says and just start the motor and pour the gallons right into the open strainer. No need for anything else. Did that for 20 years.



I do this with my diesels as well in fact you told me what to do and this has worked just fine for years.





Yep, that's how I do my diesels too


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Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Sep 12 2012 :  17:52:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hogan actually both you and Robins nest advised me on how to do this so far so good simple easy and quick to do!

Dave

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Kevdon22

RO# 32964

Posted - Sep 12 2012 :  22:39:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the comments,I recall now that thoroflush was the manufacturer that I was looking for as mentioned.
I did not mention it but I also winterize my Generator by pouring antifreeze into the strainer while the engine is running, but this does not work well for by AC system pump, probably because the pump needs liquid at all times to pick up liquid as it is not positive displacement. Therefore I was looking for the thoroflush type lid. They are apparently out of business.
Based on a internet search I found reasonable lids for Perco at this site, although I have not confirmed that they are still in business.This would require drilling a hole in the lid and adding a nipple and valve as mentioned by others

http://www.cgedwards.com/Perko/pko305-11.html

Thanks again for helpful comments



Kevdon
Forked River,
Barnegat Bay
NJ

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Gregory S

RO# 2620



Posted - Sep 13 2012 :  07:07:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Are you trying to winterize your AC? If so, the easiest way I've found to do it is with a portable 12 volt bilge pump in a bucket of antifreeze. You can either push it thru from the hose from the seacock to the pump and out the discharge port or even easier if on the hard, push it retrograde thru the discharge port and when pink comes out the bottom of the boat, you are done. With ether of these 2 routes, you do not run your AC pump.


Edited by - Gregory S on Sep 13 2012 07:08:07

Homeport: Norfolk, Va Go to Top of Page

Prospective

RO# 23085

Posted - Sep 13 2012 :  08:00:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would second greg's comment. You don't need any fancy attachments to do the a/c. I use a pump you attach to the end of a drill. Pull the hose off the sea cock, hook it to the pump and pump a gallon of pink thru the system. Takes all of about 5 min.

1990 Tiara 3600 Open
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Robyns Nest

RO# 4846

Posted - Sep 13 2012 :  09:15:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you want to winterize your a/c even easier use an air compressor. No spending on pink, no carrying to the boat, lugging into boat.

Simple and easy.


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CPSS

RO# 13031

Posted - Sep 13 2012 :  12:51:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robyns Nest

If you want to winterize your a/c even easier use an air compressor. No spending on pink, no carrying to the boat, lugging into boat.

Simple and easy.



Or just use a shop vac. Stick it over the AC discharge port, turn on vac, stop when all the water is out.


1989 Avanti 34'


Edited by - CPSS on Sep 13 2012 12:52:20

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Dusty Rhoads

RO# 10868



Posted - Sep 13 2012 :  13:45:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We have thoro-flushes, and I believe they are out of business. My only problem I have ever had, was bumping the valve on top, and suckin air into my impeller vs water. The air won,,new impeller,,however it taught me to screw a nipple into each one for the boating season. Last yr. I put flexible hose to each strainer with a multiple gate valve, so I never moved the bucket,,just open active valve.

Dusty "Moon River"

Homeport: Annapolis, MD Go to Top of Page

CRay

RO# 32502



Posted - Sep 13 2012 :  16:39:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Made covers with hose fittings for the 2 sea strainer sizes out of 3/8" plexi glass. Drilled hole for hose barb and attched with JB Weld. Use the 5 gallon witerizing kit attached to it and it's a 1 man operation.

BTW, was in WMart a few days ago and -50 was $2.97 gallon, got 16 and save $20-$30.



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bobalong

RO# 19429

Posted - Sep 13 2012 :  18:36:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Drilled and tapped the existing lids. Installed a shut off valve and nipple. Doubles as an emergency suction pump in case of a leak, and makes for easy suction of anti freeze in the fall.


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Veg

RO# 20854



Posted - Sep 13 2012 :  19:07:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
As mentioned above, not really necessary to buy anything else, I just take the cap off and pour the antifreeze in as I run the engine until pure pink comes out the exhaust. Always done it that way with no problem.



2001 Tiara 2900 Open - "O Sole Mio" - Stillwater, MN

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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Sep 13 2012 :  20:46:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't leave thoro flush or anything But the original strainer cap on.
Thoro flush is pressure fitted. If that thing pops you will suck air or sink your boat.


2009 Regal 4080
Volvo Diesel IPS

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ranger42c

RO# 32710

Posted - Sep 14 2012 :  06:51:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CPSS

quote:
Originally posted by Robyns Nest

If you want to winterize your a/c even easier use an air compressor. No spending on pink, no carrying to the boat, lugging into boat.

Simple and easy.



Or just use a shop vac. Stick it over the AC discharge port, turn on vac, stop when all the water is out.



Not so easy if winterizing with the boat in the water...

-Chris


Selby Bay, South River

Homeport: Londontowne, MD Go to Top of Page

alien1952

RO# 32487

Posted - Sep 15 2012 :  16:06:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Exactly what is so hard in draining the heat exchangers and risers?
You guess wrong or if the thermostst dosent open ,you just cracked something.
Small block Chevy is 2 gal. in the block, and 1/2 gal in each manifold.



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GeeBee

RO# 385



Posted - Sep 15 2012 :  16:51:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nothing hard, but a little list can create entrapped water which could freeze and do damage. Nice thing about pouring in some A/F is no matter what happens, you are covered.



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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Sep 15 2012 :  18:21:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by alien1952

Exactly what is so hard in draining the heat exchangers and risers?
You guess wrong or if the thermostst dosent open ,you just cracked something.
Small block Chevy is 2 gal. in the block, and 1/2 gal in each manifold.



If you have a FWC engine, you do not have to worry about the thermostat being opened or closed.



Edited by - cwms on Sep 15 2012 18:23:31

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Veg

RO# 20854



Posted - Sep 15 2012 :  20:09:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My engines are FWC, so no such worries.


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