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jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Dec 31 2012 :  07:54:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike, it is a redwood that is screwed down to a plastic backing raising it up off the floor. It is a 1 foot square that hooks into each other. I bought it at IKEA.

http://www.ikea.com/us/en/catalog/products/20165486/



I just cut it to fit the space. It was trickier than I thought it would be and does not look to bad. I numbered the connection points on the back sides so when I take it out to clean I can figure out how to put it back in.

In the guest head I just used 4 squares and did not try to make it fit. It does not move much even before I went wall to wall with it.


John
1997 Trojan 440 Express

"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter

Edited by - jmeirhofer on Dec 31 2012 07:55:42

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Starry Night

RO# 18025



Posted - Jan 01 2013 :  18:40:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The flooring looks nice for the head, however once you get drop of urine in between the cracks that is going to be a nightmare to clean.
If I ever plan to add anything to my head floor it would be something that is solid and impervious to water, urine and common dust as it becomes a bitch to clean. The only other solution would be a solid mat that could be taken out when it needs to be cleaned. I learned this from my other boat. Looks good though.


Bob

Starry Night
2001 44' Trojan 440 Express Yacht
1985 21' Chris Craft Scorpion
2011 SeaDoo RXT 260 Jet Ski
1988 34' Carver Montego (Sold)

"Anything's gonna happen, it's gonna happen out there." Captain Ron

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Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 01 2013 :  18:53:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bob sounds like you need to learn to aim better:)

Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Jan 02 2013 :  07:24:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually, it is not that hard to pick up for cleaning. But I do agree with Dave. Personally, on the boat I prefer not to stand to do that for that reason, unless I am peeing off the stern. LOL

John
1997 Trojan 440 Express

"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter

Homeport: Patch of Dirt in Pasadena, MD Go to Top of Page

Delivering Happiness

RO# 33144



Posted - Jan 05 2013 :  09:08:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
John love what you are doing, love your Saloon floors, I chose a lighter color because I thought it will get too dark in there but I think you chose we'll. is the floor done? On the edges next to the couch we simply un screws the couch from the floor and installed the vinyl planks under the couch then lowered the couch again on the planks. Saved a lot of cutting edges and crazy work.

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1998 Trojan 440 Express
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jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Jan 05 2013 :  13:51:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I thought about doing that Allen but my flooring is a 1/4" a the sub-floor the same. I will likely lift it though and do that so I can trace the lines I need to cut. I do like the trim you put on yours. I was not planning to put any on mine. That will leave a 1/8" - 1/4" gap around each hatch unless I just cut the interlocking edge off on the sides.

As for being done, I am not even close. I am replacing the waste lines (including vent), and I may replace the water line as well. I also think I am going to run PVC from the wash down pump in the engine room to the anchor locker. Then, since I now have access to the bilge areas that have not seen the light of day since 1996, I am going to clean and paint them. I also have removed the w/d and plan to line that with cedar for linen storage. Lastly the finish on the windows around the ports needs reifinished so I am doing that too. I want to have that work finished before I lay the floor so I don't screw the floor up. The photos on the previous page are where I am at now. I am not able to work on it this weekend or next but will be out there on the three day weekend following. A couple weeks after that I should be able to dewinterize the water system and lay in the sub floor. So the floor probably won't be finished until the end of Feb. Just in time to start the season.


John
1997 Trojan 440 Express

"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter

Homeport: Patch of Dirt in Pasadena, MD Go to Top of Page

Delivering Happiness

RO# 33144



Posted - Jan 05 2013 :  14:24:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If Trojan was still around we could all get a job and built the perfect boat!!!
I moved the fresh water pump from the guest state room to the engine room, too noisy, don't think I need to do my waste hoses yet as the boat was rarely used. Extended the fresh water hoses from the guest state room to the anchor room so I now I have running water there to wash the anchor room.
Lifting the couch to trace the lines is a great idea as well. Sound like you are going to have a long busy winter. Enjoy! Keep us updated, love seeing all these upgrades and changes. :-)


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Allen
1998 Trojan 440 Express
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Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  09:21:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I guess I'm going to have to start some projects as well:) The only think on my list is the waste lines and replace the name the old one has faded.

Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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1996 440 Trojan Express

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jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  09:33:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave - Replacing the waste lines was all I was going to do. I really did not intend to do the water lines or even make the outboard bilges accessible. It was sort of a well, since I am down here, I might as well thing.

John
1997 Trojan 440 Express

"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter

Homeport: Patch of Dirt in Pasadena, MD Go to Top of Page

HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  09:35:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm having the slide-out cushion on the aft deck redone. I have to get my radar arch fixed so that it tilts aftward and drains rather than pooling up on the arch and leaking onto the couch and counter.

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1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

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Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  10:06:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike who is doing the cushion? I'm hoping to get another year or two but I want to redo all of the cushions and the top I just don't have a spare 10K at this time.

Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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1996 440 Trojan Express

Homeport: Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  10:15:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sandi, at Action Marine Services

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1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

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BoatCrazy

RO# 30843



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  10:44:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"I have to get my radar arch fixed so that it tilts aftward and drains rather than pooling up on the arch and leaking onto the couch and counter."

Are you planning on adding a spacer type product in there to get it to tilt?





1988 StarCraft Bluewater 240 250hp Yamaha OX66

Homeport: Freeport NY Go to Top of Page

HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  10:46:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BoatCrazy


Are you planning on adding a spacer type product in there to get it to tilt?




Yes, that is exactly how I'm thinking of doing it.


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1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

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BoatCrazy

RO# 30843



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  11:03:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting. Id love to see a few pics of the before and afters...



1988 StarCraft Bluewater 240 250hp Yamaha OX66

Homeport: Freeport NY Go to Top of Page

HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  11:19:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll post them when it's finished.

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1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  15:17:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mike the top of the arch bolts on have you tried to loosen the nuts to see if you can shim it?

Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  15:21:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not yet, Dave. That is the plan.

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2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

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jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  15:34:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't understand how that is going to solve the problem but will be watching for the outcome none the less. My eventual solution will be to eliminate the arch altogether and either build a canvas covered aluminum frame or get a hard top.

John
1997 Trojan 440 Express

"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter

Homeport: Patch of Dirt in Pasadena, MD Go to Top of Page

HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  16:07:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The water will drain off the back of the arch instead of pooling on the front and seeping in around the sides of the canvas.

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1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  16:08:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I love the look of the arch it was one of the things that attracted me to the boat in the first place. I not sure how tilting the wing is going to make much of a difference but then I have a very different canvas and my canvas goes under it so by having it run back makes it run down my canvas. What I don't like is the way it wraps around the arch it's loose so rain can come in near the same spot you have an issue with. I like my set up and will replace it with something similar but with some kind of elastic section that will hug the arch.

Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  16:15:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I wouldn't replace the whole arch, just the cross over.

Mine is attached under the arch fore and aft. I have been trying to come up with ways to stop the leaks including attaching the canvas on top in the front. With the wing tips though I just do not see ever fixing that entry point.


John
1997 Trojan 440 Express

"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter

Homeport: Patch of Dirt in Pasadena, MD Go to Top of Page

HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  16:15:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't like the canvas under the arch. You lose too much head room and it renders the arch lights useless.

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1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  16:37:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Being short I don't have an issue with the headroom:) As for the lights I usually remove the entire rear section when I'm hanging out so it's not in the way of the lights. The only time it's an issue is in the rain and or cold. I like the open feeling of the cockpit by adding the camper top I would loose that. This is why they make so many different boats everybody likes different things!

Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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1996 440 Trojan Express

Homeport: Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

Delivering Happiness

RO# 33144



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  16:54:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It seem like there was more going on on this thread then in the NY Boat show today!
just came back with Bill (Victoria Secret). i think the water goes in the arch top from the radar base. the drain holes i have on both sides of the arch don't really get water in them as they are slightly higher then the arch frame because of the through hull drain. tilting the arch forward or backwards might help. i also have the same problem of leaking water on the wet bar counter top and the port side couch, very annoying. i hope to get to it on before the season.


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Allen
1998 Trojan 440 Express
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HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  17:20:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think water gets into the arch through the light bar, not the radar mount.

When I took mine off this fall to put the cover on, a bunch of water came out of it.


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1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

Delivering Happiness

RO# 33144



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  17:25:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not in mine. do you take of the light bar for the shrink wrap?
in regards to the camper the first thing we did when we bought the boat last year was install the full camper, while we enjoy the sun we need the shade and the kids safety as well.

on another note why can i subscribe to one topic/thread but not to another?


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Allen
1998 Trojan 440 Express
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jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  17:53:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Where mine attaches is at the edge underneath. It does not obstruct the lights or the speakers. Water gets in on mine at the gap on each side both fore and aft where it attaches. You can barely see it in this image and when I get to the boat next time I will take a better one, but it is here the arch wings are.


EDIT:

Here is another view.



John
1997 Trojan 440 Express

"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter

Edited by - jmeirhofer on Jan 06 2013 18:01:32

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Delivering Happiness

RO# 33144



Posted - Jan 06 2013 :  19:52:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
first thing nice Camper!!! i think it is not as mine.
when the boat was prepped in MI:



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Allen
1998 Trojan 440 Express
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GeeVeeBee

Edited by - Delivering Happiness on Jan 20 2013 08:08:44

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jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Jan 17 2013 :  13:41:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
After a two week hiatus I will be getting back at it again this weekend. I have been looking at pictures of trojans and I think I have found anouther issue with my anchor locker. The only drain IS to the bilge. Looking at pics of mine from various angles, I can not see any through hull discharge. Looking in my forward bilge I see an approximate 3/4 inch hole/tube the goes up to the anchor locker dead in the middle. Looking at pictures of other trojans I see where I think the though hull is for the anchor locker drain. Anyway Rather than punch a hole in the boat I plan to attache a 5/8" ID hose from that drain tube in the forward bilge and go to the shower sump. There is an extra line connection there I can use. That will discharge all of the rain water. At a later date I may put in a through hull in the anchor locker as well.

John
1997 Trojan 440 Express

"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter

Homeport: Patch of Dirt in Pasadena, MD Go to Top of Page

Delivering Happiness

RO# 33144



Posted - Jan 17 2013 :  16:25:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When the previously owner of my boat purchased it it had two through hull drains HOWEVER they were 4 inches too high from the bottom of the anchor room, he had Trojan send someone to fix it. I sealed the tube that runs from the anchor room to the forward bilge with foam but it is still getting water. And the list go on...

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Allen
1998 Trojan 440 Express
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jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Jan 17 2013 :  17:32:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Plugging thee hole was my unoriginal thought until I figured out there is no other drain.

John
1997 Trojan 440 Express

"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter

Homeport: Patch of Dirt in Pasadena, MD Go to Top of Page

Delivering Happiness

RO# 33144



Posted - Jan 17 2013 :  17:37:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jmeirhofer

Plugging thee hole was my unoriginal thought until I figured out there is no other drain.


That's weird though to not have the drain. I think they probably forgot :-)
At some point I want to get bigger through hull so it drain smoother.


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Allen
1998 Trojan 440 Express
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jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Jan 17 2013 :  17:49:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just remember that hole is fairly low already. If water can get out easier, it can get in easier in rough seas. That is why I am contemplating not putting the through hull in and just leaving a hose connected from that drain to the sump.

John
1997 Trojan 440 Express

"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter

Homeport: Patch of Dirt in Pasadena, MD Go to Top of Page

Delivering Happiness

RO# 33144



Posted - Jan 17 2013 :  18:04:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jmeirhofer

Just remember that hole is fairly low already. If water can get out easier, it can get in easier in rough seas. That is why I am contemplating not putting the through hull in and just leaving a hose connected from that drain to the sump.


will keep that in mind, thanks :-)


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Allen
1998 Trojan 440 Express
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Homeport: Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

Starry Night

RO# 18025



Posted - Jan 19 2013 :  19:48:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have no issues with water on my radar arch however it is not the winged version. I think your radar arch needs to be tilted back and then have the camper top attached under the arch. Normally Bimini go over and campers go under.

For the anchor locker water removal, I have two drains, one on the port, one on the starboard. They work great especially when cleaning the anchor rhode with the pressure water. They are located just above the bottom of the locker.

I too am replacing my slide out seat cushion vinyl, however I am doing it myself.


Bob

Starry Night
2001 44' Trojan 440 Express Yacht
1985 21' Chris Craft Scorpion
2011 SeaDoo RXT 260 Jet Ski
1988 34' Carver Montego (Sold)

"Anything's gonna happen, it's gonna happen out there." Captain Ron

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina and Yacht Club, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Jan 19 2013 :  20:13:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Is your slide out (this is for all replacing theirs) cushion starting to come apart at one of the seams? My stitching is starting to let go. I really need all new cushions but I am hoping to get another year our of the ones I have. My wife is going to attempt to sew them for us and I will install. I just have way to many other projects going on right now.

I have a guy coming by tomorrow to look at the canvas. I will let you what he says.


John
1997 Trojan 440 Express

"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter

Homeport: Patch of Dirt in Pasadena, MD Go to Top of Page

Delivering Happiness

RO# 33144



Posted - Jan 19 2013 :  20:39:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jmeirhofer

Is your slide out (this is for all replacing theirs) cushion starting to come apart at one of the seams? My stitching is starting to let go. I really need all new cushions but I am hoping to get another year our of the ones I have. My wife is going to attempt to sew them for us and I will install. I just have way to many other projects going on right now.

I have a guy coming by tomorrow to look at the canvas. I will let you what he says.


Just so you have some idea i paid for my full camper $5600. They also had to do the frame from the arch back because previously it was dropping from the arch to the back of the boat.


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Allen
1998 Trojan 440 Express
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Homeport: Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

Starry Night

RO# 18025



Posted - Jan 20 2013 :  07:57:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
John,
Yes mine is ripping at the seam. All Trojans will do this when you have tie ups and people walk back and forth across the boats. This is what happened to mine.


Bob

Starry Night
2001 44' Trojan 440 Express Yacht
1985 21' Chris Craft Scorpion
2011 SeaDoo RXT 260 Jet Ski
1988 34' Carver Montego (Sold)

"Anything's gonna happen, it's gonna happen out there." Captain Ron

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina and Yacht Club, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Jan 20 2013 :  15:37:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is likely what was causing mine too. We have not walked on it since buying. When ever we need to go out on deck we use the other side. But it is only a matter of time before it comes apart. My wife, who is pretty handy with sewing, is saying she would like to take a shot at doing the upholstery. Maybe next winter we will start with the interior stuff and see how that goes. Outside, pretty much all of it needs replacement. I had a quote of $7500 and decided it was not that bad yet.

I did get more work done on the interior again today. The waste lines are done on the inside. I just need to finish the connection to the pump out fitting in the engine room. It is to cold at the moment to get the bends just right. So instead I worked on getting the underlayment down. This is the progress I made this weekend.

I am cutting the underlayment for the hatches first and then building the rest of the underlayment around that.


I have a long straight line that you can not really see down the center of the boat that lines up with those hatches and I am taking all the measurements off. So far I have 5 of the hatches cut out. There will be a total of 8.


Each of the hatches will be edged with 3/8" furring strips. That is the thickness of the bamboo. I laid a few pieces out first to see if that would work.


If your wondering where all of the stuff from in here went, it is in the forward stateroom. It definitely fills it up. lol


John
1997 Trojan 440 Express

"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter

Homeport: Patch of Dirt in Pasadena, MD Go to Top of Page

HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Jan 20 2013 :  16:13:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have not been on my boat since I covered it Thanksgiving weekend.

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1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 20 2013 :  17:12:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow you are rebuilding the entire boat! I have to get busy with my projects I haven't started anything yet I thought about it a couple of time but that's as far as I have gotten.

Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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1996 440 Trojan Express

Homeport: Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Jan 20 2013 :  17:15:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm thinking about going to Aruba in two weeks.

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1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Jan 20 2013 :  17:53:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In two weeks I hope to have all of the sub-floor in.

Hogan you suck. I would love to say I am going to Aruba in two weeks. I think we are finally looking at next year for a vacation to a Sandy Beach somewhere. Maybe VI.


John
1997 Trojan 440 Express

"Son, I've got a very low bull$*%t tolerance" -- Pancho Carter

Homeport: Patch of Dirt in Pasadena, MD Go to Top of Page

HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Jan 20 2013 :  18:47:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's a rough life, but somebody's gotta do it.

St. John is very nice.


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1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

jmeirhofer

RO# 30972



Posted - Jan 20 2013 :  18:55:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In all that above I forgot to add what the canvas guy said about the arch. No way to fix it.

He says what is happening is the water is rolling off the back of the arch and wicking back inside the canvas. Leaning it forward would have it do the same thing from the other direction. If the wing tips where not there he would recommend attaching the canvas on the top of the arch and around the sides. Probably like Bob has. With the camper cavas I rarely take my canvas off now. I am considering an extreme fix (or attempt) If I mask both sides, leaving a small hole, I can inject foam into the space and fill it so water can not wick back and come in. I believe this expanding foam is paintable so I would be able to paint it white. Still debating this though.


John
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Posted - Jan 20 2013 :  19:09:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I disagree John. Tilting the top of the arch towards the stern will result in the water running off to the aft. With the aft canvas attached to the bottom of the arch, the water will roll down the canvas and off the back of the boat.

I am convinced this is the only way to fix the problem. When I do it, I'll let you know.


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I do want to see how that works for you. If it does work, we will all be doing the same thing. Do you think it will effect your radar?

John
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Posted - Jan 21 2013 :  06:53:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I will have to shim the radar.

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I am going to seal the drain wholes on the top of the arch. I am pretty sure the hose running from the drain hole at the top to the back of the arch is leaking. I don't understand why the drain hole is there to begging with. The water should just run off the arch on the front or the back of the camper.

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