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Pathfinder

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Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  12:05:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The staff at the local West Marine store here in Virginia promotes the use of Startron combination gas/diesel ethanol treatment for diesels "since diesel fuel now contains ethanol." I've never heard of such a thing.

In September, I brought my diesel powered boat from Florida to Virginia via the ICW, refueling in every state along the route. Nowhere did I see any indication of ethanol in diesel.

I started to argue with the WM folks but thought I check with the Boater Ed brain trust to see if any of you have ever heard of this.
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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  12:31:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Seems it is possible but there would need to be a sticker on the pump if they did.

http://www.ethanol-information.com/ediesel.php



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Sandy

RO# 1159

Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  22:54:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Note that the decrease in economy when ethanol is mixed with diesel and run in a diesel engine would be greater than when the same % of ethanol is mixed with gasoline & burned in a gas engine.

The pump sticker may be a state to state (or local) requirement as I believe some areas were not required to post E10 gas.

The link above does say special permission must be obtained for on-road use , but it may be possible a dock station could add it in an experimental area. Maybe it would keep diesel engines cleaner once all the diesel gradoo in the tanks clogged up the system and was cleaned out. I wonder if ethanol would act as a biocide in place of owner-additives? It kills the worm in tequila bottles doesn't it?


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The Other Gary

RO# 143



Posted - Dec 13 2012 :  23:08:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Diesel in Canada has no ethanol but it is now officially B2.
2% biodiesel, I carry extra filters as it does have a cleaning effect on tanks and fuel lines.
It is slightly less sooty as well.



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bobalong

RO# 19429

Posted - Dec 14 2012 :  07:27:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sandy; Makes perfectly good sense to me.



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jtybt15

RO# 3300

Posted - Dec 14 2012 :  10:15:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Heh! Heh! Sandy,, at 2-10% alcohol, you may just get happy bugs. The tequila worms just couldn't drink as much as you.

there was a line in a movie "...life will out". There's supposed to be bugs that can live in hydro-chloric acid.





Charlie

There is much to be said, in a world like ours, for taking the world as you find it and fishing with a worm.-Bliss Perry, 1904



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dancerscap

RO# 20150

Posted - Dec 14 2012 :  14:45:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If you switch from b2 diesel to bio-diesel carry several spare filters because the bio will kill evwerything the fuel( read algae etc. ) and quickly and seriously clog filters. When we switched to bio in trucks we would change fuel filters after each tank for about three days and then as needed. Switching back and forth is really expensive.


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rduhon

RO# 29321

Posted - Dec 17 2012 :  15:00:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Startron is snake oil.

No diesel in our area has any biofuels or ethanol. So, we don't have to worry yet.
And if they do, the last thing I would put in my tank is Startron.



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rawidman

RO# 25110

Posted - Dec 17 2012 :  16:15:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Biodiesel is one thing, but there would be no need or use for ethanol in diesel fuel. I think the folks at West Marine were either misinformed or they misunderstood you or vice versa.

Biodiesel at 2% is reputed to actually be a good thing, actually better than some of the commercial additives.


Ron
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rawidman

RO# 25110

Posted - Dec 17 2012 :  16:19:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CurrentSea

Seems it is possible but there would need to be a sticker on the pump if they did.

http://www.ethanol-information.com/ediesel.php





You realize, I hope, that that website promotes ethanol.

I would take any information presented there with a grain or two of salt.


Ron
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absolute

RO# 31985



Posted - Dec 17 2012 :  20:32:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The gov has been experimenting with a blend of ethanol and diesel for years, but have received opposing views from the manufacturers.

As for diesel with ethanol at the pump, no. However there was a report that came to us in September this year that addressed some corrosion issues in ULSD tanks believed to be linked to ethanol.


Absolute

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