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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Mar 24 2017 :  17:16:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When you get a CG renewal letter, make sure it is from the CG. I got a letter in the mail directing me to their website where I ended up paying $75 for renewal. I now know it was a documentation service and not the CG.
They got me this time but never again.
Next year, I will renew only with the CG and $26...not $75.

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boatbum

RO# 36

Posted - Mar 24 2017 :  17:49:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Other than satisfying a bank requirement why would anyone document their boat now?


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Gregory S

RO# 2620



Posted - Mar 24 2017 :  18:06:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There's a tax savings in some states. $26/ year is cheaper than state registration in some states and not all states require state registration of documented vessels (Va is one of those states).


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boatbum

RO# 36

Posted - Mar 24 2017 :  20:26:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That'll do it!


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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Mar 25 2017 :  20:45:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gregory S

There's a tax savings in some states. $26/ year is cheaper than state registration in some states and not all states require state registration of documented vessels (Va is one of those states).



And until a couple of years ago, renewal was free.



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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Mar 26 2017 :  17:21:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
only deal with this web site
http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/nvdc/

I googled Coast Guard Documentation and the first thing to pop up was a documentation service, one that charges an extra fee to handle it for you. The actual CG website was about 5th on the list.



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Ironworks

RO# 20174



Posted - Mar 28 2017 :  16:32:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is a service. If you do not want it do not use it. Real simple. Compare it to the other services you may use in your life. People charge for service period. No scam at all. Hope this helps.

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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Mar 28 2017 :  21:31:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ironworks

It is a service. If you do not want it do not use it. Real simple. Compare it to the other services you may use in your life. People charge for service period. No scam at all. Hope this helps.



Yes it is a service. I can either use them and take 3 minutes to give them my info and pay $75 or I can take 3 minutes and give the same info to the CG and pay $26.
Make no mistake about it, this "service" goes to great lengths to fool people into thinking they are dealing with the CG.



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SailArmy

RO# 2656

Posted - Mar 29 2017 :  12:19:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In a society of "Instant Gratification", "Due Diligence" seems to always take a back seat. A bit sad.


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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Mar 29 2017 :  12:37:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SailArmy

In a society of "Instant Gratification", "Due Diligence" seems to always take a back seat. A bit sad.



I don't disagree and I'm not an "instant gratification" kind of person. Just the opposite
I really thought the renewal letter came from the CG and the website I went to looked pretty good too.
Fooled me once and will never happen again.



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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Apr 02 2017 :  18:29:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bump. I want as many people as possible to read this thread and please pass it on to your boating buddies who have CG documented boats.


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ericsilv

RO# 10428

Posted - Apr 08 2017 :  12:54:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
just got the letter there smart send apx 2weeks before you get the real one and there address ends .us makes you think its offical


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ericsilv

RO# 10428

Posted - Apr 08 2017 :  12:55:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
.


Edited by - ericsilv on Apr 08 2017 12:57:46

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abalmuth

RO# 13885



Posted - Apr 08 2017 :  15:28:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ericsilv

just got the letter there smart send apx 2weeks before you get the real one and there address ends .us makes you think its offical


I own 4 .us domains, nothing special about them except the .com was already taken


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until you hear them speak.........

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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Apr 17 2017 :  10:17:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My brother got the reminder letter the other day and almost fell for the $75 fee, but I was able to warn him before he renewed.

Again, ONLY use this website and pay $26 to the CG, not $75.

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/cg5/nvdc/



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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Apr 19 2017 :  08:31:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's a press release from BOAT US about this.

https://www.boatus.com/pressroom/release.asp?id=1280



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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Apr 19 2017 :  10:14:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They got me! Damm it!
I saw it and I knew my renewal was due and I missed it last year.
It sure looked real, even their website is just like Coast Guards.
Left them a nasty voicemail. Smart, they have no operators, no way to contact them.

Oh well.




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Volvo Diesel IPS

Edited by - CurrentSea on Apr 19 2017 10:29:31

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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Apr 19 2017 :  10:55:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I sent them an email letting them know just what I thought of them and saying I was going to alert as many people as possible on boating forums. I got a reply saying they were forwarding my email to their lawyer and if I did anything to defame them, I would be sued.

Sorry they got you as well CurrentSea. Tell everyone you know who has documented boats. I alerted my brother just in time.



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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Apr 19 2017 :  12:26:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Its funny because I read this post and didn't think about it.
Then I got the letter and it sat there for a day and my wife said, don't you have to renew.
I then went to do it and all looked so official that I felt I was dealing with USCG.
Plus I knew last year I paid alot because I missed my renewal so the $75 seemed about right.

You should check they file it - mine looks good.

http://cgmix.uscg.mil/vds/

They use pay.gov to pay the $26.
Yeah, the scammed be out of $49.
I threatened to sue them and I reported them to the us postal service.

Think about it, this is such a easy scam that can apply to anything. Passports, car registration, property taxes, driver's license, any license.

Just send if before the official letter and your guaranteed a few suckers.




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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Apr 19 2017 :  13:05:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At least you didn't sign up for the 5 year renewal. I posted this alert on another boating forum and one of the members admitted to doing just that. He's going to try to get it cancelled.
For what it's worth, I did get my renewal letter from the CG, so it is a legit (unethical) service.



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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Apr 20 2017 :  06:39:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ok, this will be a super long post. I contacted them. Said I wanted to cancel their service.
This is what I got back. I assume its a stock answer they send to everyone as they must get tons of people calling them a scam!

Dear Managing Owner,

This message is written in response to your refund request for Renewal of Documentation for "CurrentSea" with USCG Doc. No.: 1219962 received today, 4/19/2017 via email.

According to your message, you've requested your application to be cancelled, and a full refund for your fees submitted, despite your acknowledgement of the fact that your Renewal request has already been successfully processed.

Please be advised that all previous correspondence, including this message, has been forwarded to our firm's retained legal counsel [CC'd on this message], as you have already made your intention to defraud, and defame our firm evident through your previous message(s).

As the Terms and Conditions clearly state, whether you choose to cancel your application or not, all application and processing fees submitted remain non-refundable in accordance with the Authorization of Payment you selected. You should also be aware of the fact that your application for Renewal of Coast Guard Documentation was successfully submitted on 4/17/2017. See receipt below:

Application Name: Vessel Doc Form
Pay.gov Tracking ID: 261TTOVH
Agency Tracking ID: 75226872853
Transaction Type: Sale
Transaction Date: 04/17/2017 05:43:17 PM EDT
Service Requested: Renewal
Vessel Number: 1219962


As detailed above, not only are we unable to process a refund, but your application has already been processed so we can no longer cancel the application.

I understand you have stated your intention to dispute the charges with your financial institution, despite the fact that you did authorize the charge at the time of your submission. Again, you have even already acknowledged, in writing, receipt of the service you'd requested. As a result, appropriate action is already underway in response.


All correspondence on this matter, including this message, has been forwarded to retained legal counsel. Please consider the outcome of this act of consumer fraud you've committed, before defrauding other businesses in the future.


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Additionally, by using the website's services, you've already accepted the Terms and Conditions of the website that clearly stipulate that you acknowledged you were submitting your application with a third-party agency, and that all application and processing fees submitted would remain non-refundable, even in the event of a cancellation.

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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Apr 20 2017 :  09:03:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
These people are slick and have good lawyers. That's why I'm trying to alert as many people as possible. I sent an email to the CG and they suggest filing a complaint with the Postal Service and Fed. Trade Comm.


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4roys

RO# 7262

Posted - Apr 20 2017 :  19:32:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Almost fell for this one. The good news is it reminded me to renew and I realized when I tried to contact them with a question they were not the CG. But it was close.


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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Apr 21 2017 :  15:46:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LOL. Rich, if you fall for it, then it shows the deception! Can I sue them?

Let's make an example!



2009 Regal 4080
Volvo Diesel IPS

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Anchor Management

RO# 32420



Posted - Apr 21 2017 :  16:03:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This crap is all over the internet. I have booked hotels through third parties not paying attention. Even when you call they answer "reservation desk". Their websites are very misleading but doubt it is illegal. Caveat Emptor.

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Bliss

RO# 2743

Posted - Apr 22 2017 :  11:17:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
CS, you can sue just about anyone for just about anything. Results are a different matter.


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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Apr 22 2017 :  13:54:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guys, the best way to shut these people down is by alerting as many boaters as possible. Pass the word, at your marina, yacht clubs, Power Squadron, CG Aux, here and other boating forums. Complaints to the Fed. Trade Comm and Postal Service won't hurt either


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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Apr 22 2017 :  17:27:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bliss

CS, you can sue just about anyone for just about anything. Results are a different matter.



It was a joke, 4roys is an attorney and we had some business in the past.

If I sued it wouldn't be for my $49, it would be to shut to bastard down.

I never understood how people who deceive or cheat other people sleep at night.



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Volvo Diesel IPS

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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Apr 25 2017 :  10:57:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CurrentSea

They got me! Damm it!
I saw it and I knew my renewal was due and I missed it last year.
It sure looked real, even their website is just like Coast Guards.





CurrentSea, check your next renewal date. Because this company sends in your request sooner than the CG asks, I lost a month going from 5/31/17 to 4/30/18



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Gregory S

RO# 2620



Posted - Apr 25 2017 :  11:18:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's strange, would think the new certificate would begin upon expiration of the old, no matter when or who applied for it.


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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Apr 25 2017 :  14:56:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The renewal has not gone thru yet.
Mine didn't expire until 6/30/17
I check it here

http://www.st.nmfs.noaa.gov/pls/webpls/cgv_pkg.vessel_name_list



2009 Regal 4080
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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Apr 25 2017 :  17:32:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Both the CG web site and my just received document letter say 4/30/18. My previous expiration date was 5/31/17. I lost a month.
I saw a post in another forum where the boat owner lost two months. That's what made me check mine.



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mixman

RO# 25362

Posted - Apr 25 2017 :  21:23:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This sounds similar to the yellow page, domain name registration, vacation, and insurance scams I receive at my office almost daily. It truly is rather disgusting.


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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - May 10 2017 :  11:11:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just bringing this thread back to the top of the page in case anyone missed it the first go around.


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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - May 10 2017 :  11:27:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They nailed a friend of mine.
Same deal, he knew they charged a fee and $75 seemed reasonable.

I did get a email from postmaster general that they were looking into it.



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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - May 10 2017 :  12:19:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
CurrentSea, did you get a full 12 months on your new renewal or did you lose a month or two?


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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - May 10 2017 :  14:18:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting, I don't see where it has been renewed and I don't see my case in work anymore.
I wonder if my email threatening them caused them to cancel it.
Though they still have my $75.

Where are you checking yours?


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Volvo Diesel IPS

Edited by - CurrentSea on May 10 2017 14:29:33

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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - May 10 2017 :  14:57:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found it.
I lost 2 months as well.
Bastards.



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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - May 10 2017 :  15:31:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CurrentSea

I found it.
I lost 2 months as well.
Bastards.




I was afraid of that. I think just about everyone loses one month and more than a few, two months.

Do whatever you can to spread the word...best way to shut them down. Once they realize they are only getting one renewal for every 40-50 reminder letters mailed, they will stop.



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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - May 10 2017 :  15:37:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am fighting with the ahole on email now.
Told him I paid for a 1 year renewal and got 10 months, therefore I want a 2 month refund.
Going back and forth, he keeps referring to his attorney.

Wish I had an attorney in my back pocket who I can throw at him.

Told him we are starting a class action suit!



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Anchor Management

RO# 32420



Posted - May 10 2017 :  15:46:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CurrentSea

I am fighting with the ahole on email now.
Told him I paid for a 1 year renewal and got 10 months, therefore I want a 2 month refund.
Going back and forth, he keeps referring to his attorney.

Wish I had an attorney in my back pocket who I can throw at him.

Told him we are starting a class action suit!

If you put it on your credit card, call your CC company and tell them you are disputing the charge. They will take it off your bill. I g=have done this many times when I did not get what I paid for.





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CurrentSea

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Posted - May 10 2017 :  15:57:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did that. I can't take it all off, asking them to take off the over-charge.


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Gregory S

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Posted - May 11 2017 :  08:46:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'd be willing to bet this is some clown working out of his house and has no staff or attorney. call his bluff.


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Victorias Secret

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Posted - May 11 2017 :  10:05:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got that letter this week. It was very official looking, but the wording did not seem right. I called them just to mess with him, after I told him several times he was an unethical crook and was committing mail fraud he hung up on me. The USPS and the USCG need to shut this place down. Looking at the letter I can see how someone would be fooled, but I had a heads up from this site. That alone just paid for my anchor.....

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Posted - May 11 2017 :  11:17:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Victorias Secret

I got that letter this week. It was very official looking, but the wording did not seem right. I called them just to mess with him, after I told him several times he was an unethical crook and was committing mail fraud he hung up on me. The USPS and the USCG need to shut this place down. Looking at the letter I can see how someone would be fooled, but I had a heads up from this site. That alone just paid for my anchor.....



Glad you didn't fall for it. Spread the word...best way to shut them down is by everyone knowing about this BEFORE they get the letter.



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CurrentSea

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Posted - May 11 2017 :  13:16:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Best way to shut him down is report him.
He does copy his attorney on his emails.
I looked up the name, it is a legit attorney.
I am sure he has checked and cross checked his approach.
He is doing a service. Its not different than someone waiting on line at DMV to renew your registration.
The issue is he is deceptive.
Rather than saying this a service he tries to make it seem like you are dealing with USCG.
I am suprised you got thru on the phone. All buttons i push are recordings!

You can slam his facebook page too https://www.facebook.com/USCGdocumentation/



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Gregory S

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Posted - May 19 2017 :  08:30:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got the letter today. He does in fact state it is a service but you have to read well into the body of the letter to get to that point. Interesting that the business address is Morgantown, W.V., and the letter was post marked Santa Ana, Ca. I think I'll call him today and have some fun with him. It also gives you the five year option for $300! What a deal!


Edited by - Gregory S on May 19 2017 09:14:31

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CurrentSea

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Posted - May 19 2017 :  11:14:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Guess my threats paid off.
I received a $49 credit!!!!!



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Gregory S

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Posted - May 19 2017 :  12:19:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ha! I think when I call him with my WV phone number, I'll tell him I'm in Morgantown and would like to come by his "office" and do it in person.


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CurrentSea

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Posted - May 19 2017 :  12:59:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Actually I just realized that the credit was my credit card company
So it may not stick.
I disputed the charge for $49



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Gregory S

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Posted - May 19 2017 :  17:51:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So I called but all the phone options take you to the website. He doesn't want to talk to us or play. If you go to his Facebook page, lots of bogus reviews from non boaters.


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