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walterv

RO# 12640



Posted - Oct 24 2017 :  09:50:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just received an email from FOWH

They are stating Watch Hill will be completed the end of this year and will be open for the 2018 season.
And always remember, life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by those moments that take our breath away.

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walterv

RO# 12640



Posted - Oct 24 2017 :  09:55:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The multimillion dollar contract for the Watch Hill marina project was recently extended to allow time to address unforeseen and necessary repairs to the substructure. Upon completion of the substructure repairs, composite lumber decking and new pedestals will be installed on the adjacent boardwalks. While work on the marina contract is underway, the NPS will replace the roof and siding on the Watch Hill Visitor Center and build a new 150-foot section on the nature boardwalk trail. Construction at Watch Hill will be completed by the end of the year and the updated facilities will reopen for the 2018 season.

And always remember, life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by those moments that take our breath away.

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Robski97

RO# 7334

Posted - Oct 30 2017 :  10:45:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
wonder what yesterdays flooding did.

Funny how there are no pictures of work... Very odd

Rob


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Edited by - Robski97 on Oct 30 2017 10:46:02

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WALSHIE

RO# 2124



Posted - Oct 30 2017 :  12:29:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm hoping to go to Watch Hill in August 2018. When should I book it?


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walterv

RO# 12640



Posted - Oct 30 2017 :  16:04:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No such thing as booking, you can call the day you want to go, see if they have a slip and book that day. But, you are to be there that day or you can lose the slip. The good news is, if I remember correctly you have the Silverton 33 Sport Bridge, which means your beam is around 12'4" which means you have many slips available for your boat. Keep in touch when you want to go there, will try to meet up with you. Friday and Saturday are prime times, but with your beam, you should be fine.

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jeff_c

RO# 25917



Posted - Nov 03 2017 :  11:38:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've heard that the ask is too high and the past/current vendor will not be pursuing Watch Hill or Sailors Haven next year due to the low margins as it is.

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Robski97

RO# 7334

Posted - Nov 03 2017 :  19:57:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That would be sad. They did a great job.The park service is such a hindrance. They want the concessionaire to take all the financial responsibility and tie their hands .. LEt them run it like a for profit business that it is. Charge a real rate. Rearrange the FING slips to accommodate the boats that actually frequent the damn place as opposed to the people that visit one a year. Its a losing battle . Stupid always wins

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mintregila

RO# 13060

Posted - Nov 04 2017 :  07:50:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They spent all this money to get exactly what they had before, just repaired. Typical government bs. They flat out told everyone that they did not care to make it more accessible/usable. I don't blame the guy for not taking a bad deal. Too much risk with no reward.

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Robski97

RO# 7334

Posted - Nov 06 2017 :  10:14:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
agreed and friends of watch hill is mute

really disappointed

Rob


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bmac

RO# 29428

Posted - Nov 06 2017 :  18:27:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Donít even get me started......the next excuse coming out of the NPS pie hole will be that WH canít be opened because they have no concessionaire to operate it. That kind of stupidity is well within their capacity


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walterv

RO# 12640



Posted - Nov 08 2017 :  10:29:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow Brian, never thought of that.

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walterv

RO# 12640



Posted - Nov 08 2017 :  10:33:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://www.nps.gov/fiis/learn/news/concession-opportunity-for-fire-island-national-seashore-at-watch-hill-and-sailors-haven.htm

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WALSHIE

RO# 2124



Posted - Nov 08 2017 :  11:12:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Youze guys are gonna have to help me plan my trip this summer....expecting 3 boats, 30-35' range so hopefully we have no problems getting a slip.
Plan is to go to Watch Hill from Croton Point on the Hudson, I figure we can do that in one day, maybe 6 hours?
From there through the Shinnecock canal, stop at Greenpoint. Next stop is Mystic seaport. Any other suggestions?


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HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Nov 08 2017 :  11:18:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WALSHIE

Youze guys are gonna have to help me plan my trip this summer....expecting 3 boats, 30-35' range so hopefully we have no problems getting a slip.
Plan is to go to Watch Hill from Croton Point on the Hudson, I figure we can do that in one day, maybe 6 hours?
From there through the Shinnecock canal, stop at Greenpoint. Next stop is Mystic seaport. Any other suggestions?



Chris, you should try to get to WH on a Friday, to be sure you get slips.

Greenport is very nice, are you looking in Sterling Harbor or at the Town dock?

How long are you going for?


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WALSHIE

RO# 2124



Posted - Nov 08 2017 :  12:31:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If we leave the Hudson at say 8am and get to WH by 2pm is that ok?

I've never been to Greenport, what do you recommend?

Are my times reasonable, from Havestraw to WH in 6hrs?
I figure it's similar to PortJeff which we did comfortably in one day.

I assume From WH to Greenport in one day is fine.


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HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Nov 08 2017 :  14:09:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WALSHIE

If we leave the Hudson at say 8am and get to WH by 2pm is that ok?

I've never been to Greenport, what do you recommend?

Are my times reasonable, from Havestraw to WH in 6hrs?
I figure it's similar to PortJeff which we did comfortably in one day.

I assume From WH to Greenport in one day is fine.



Greenport: Town dock is clean and right in the middle of town. It offers only showers and bathrooms.

In Stirling Harbor, you have Townsend marina, which has a pool, and a fairly long walk to town. There are also two Brewer yards, Stirling Harbor is much nicer, but much farther from town than Townsend. I think they might have a shuttle. They have a pool and restaurant.

As far as distances, hopefully the LICC guys can chime in.

In Mystic, you have several choices. If you have a dink, you can dink up to the Shipyard. I recommend eating at the Daniel Packer Inn.



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bone354

RO# 27559



Posted - Nov 09 2017 :  12:51:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If your just using WH for a stop over. I would just take the LI Sound Maybe stop at Port Jeff for the night then head east from there. Nice deep water the whole way. Instead of 5' on south shore the whole way.


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JVM225

RO# 28365

Posted - Nov 09 2017 :  20:04:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WALSHIE

Youze guys are gonna have to help me plan my trip this summer....expecting 3 boats, 30-35' range so hopefully we have no problems getting a slip.
Plan is to go to Watch Hill from Croton Point on the Hudson, I figure we can do that in one day, maybe 6 hours?
From there through the Shinnecock canal, stop at Greenpoint. Next stop is Mystic seaport. Any other suggestions?



6 hours is about right if all goes well and you run the Ocean to Fire Island Inlet. Once inside, you have to stay between the buoys or youíll run out of water, especially approaching Watch Hill.
If ocean is snotty you can duck in East Rockaway Inlet which is only about 8 miles from Breezy Point, or go another 12 miles beyond that to Jones Inlet. Ducking in either will add time to your trip because of 5 mph zones though. But both are IMHO pretty straightforward. Fire Island Inlet is not.
Iíve got no experience in the bays East of Watch Hill but know of several who have had problems because of very shallow spots in Moriches Bay. Iíve heard that Shinnecock Bay isnít much better.
If I were unfamiliar with the very shallow bays on the south shore but really wanted to spend a little time on Fire Island I would run the ocean to Fire Island Inlet and stay at Atlantique. I understand non residents have no problems getting in there on weekdays, and when youíve had your fill of the beach you can take Water Taxis from there to towns with restaurants. Itís very close to the inlet and probably a lot less bugs than Watch Hill as the sun goes down.
I stopped going to Watch Hill years ago because the cabin on my old boat was like a cave for a family of four huddled in there trying to avoid getting eaten alive at dinner time.
This boat is much bigger, and the kids are older now and donít do many trips with us anymore so we may go back. Now we have satellite TV and a more comfortable cabin so we probably wonít mind hiding from the bugs for a few hours.
When your done with FI you could go back out the same inlet and run the ocean to Shinnecock to avoid Moriches.
If the ocean is really good when you head east you could run around Montauk Pt. and come back to Greenport and have no worries about running aground.


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Robski97

RO# 7334

Posted - Nov 12 2017 :  08:13:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Honestly.Id baypass Watchhill all together. Too many risk factors. ( not getting aslip, having to go tru Moriches and the locks ) Its just not worth the possible grief.

much nicer places ( green port, shelter island, blk island, Montauk )allof which u can make a reservation for and not have to worry about anyting other then what time to start drinking and eating .

Just my opinion

Rob


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Robski97

RO# 7334

Posted - Nov 12 2017 :  08:14:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bryan,
How u been buddy... Next year I'm all out east. No more sand box. Whats ur status

Rob


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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Nov 12 2017 :  09:01:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I would agree with Rob.

Also, I just read article in newsday that Davis Park suffered $2million in damage from the recent storm
Check this out:

http://fireislandandbeyond.com/video-and-images-storm-damage-at-davis-park-marina/

I wonder what happened at the "new" Watch Hill.
Said this before and I will say it again, I bet Watch Hill doesn't open. Eventually the funds to repair won't be there and the NPS will declare it unsafe. We are slowly losing marinas and they are not building new ones.



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JVM225

RO# 28365

Posted - Nov 14 2017 :  09:40:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robski97

Honestly.Id baypass Watchhill all together. Too many risk factors. ( not getting aslip, having to go tru Moriches and the locks ) Its just not worth the possible grief.

much nicer places ( green port, shelter island, blk island, Montauk )allof which u can make a reservation for and not have to worry about anyting other then what time to start drinking and eating .

Just my opinion

I
Rob



I agree completely!
But, if you do want to take the ocean and want to do an overnite or two on Fire Island then take a look at Atlantique. Itís a short distance inside the Fire Island Inlet.
But honestly, unless you have a real burning desire for a beach, I think heading east through the Sound is a much nicer and far less stressful trip.
Having traveled west through the Sound from Westbrook Ct. to NYC, done many other trips in and around NYC, and ventured as far north up the Hudson to Kingston, Iíve come to realize how more enjoyable it is to regularly see double digits on the depth finder.
Donít see that much down here.
The south shore, itís often narrow channels and itís shallow bays are much more suited to smaller boats, especially on weekends, and beach worshipers.
I own the property where I dock my boat, itís about a 20 minute ride for me, but if I were paying to be in a Marina Iíd seriously consider driving the extra 10 or 15 minutes in the other direction and keeping the boat on the North Shore.


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JohnC

RO# 204

Posted - Nov 22 2017 :  13:09:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
But, if you do want to take the ocean and want to do an overnite or two on Fire Island then take a look at Atlantique.


I like Atlantique early and late in the season but getting in there during the summer if you're a non resident is almost impossible from my experience.



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bmac

RO# 29428

Posted - Nov 26 2017 :  14:49:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robski97

Bryan,
How u been buddy... Next year I'm all out east. No more sand box. Whats ur status

Rob



Hey, Rob, hope all is well. We are unsure of our plans for next season. We had a good 2017 at Atlantique and MYC. Iíd like to go to MYC for the whole season but the wife isnít interested (go figure). We are also debating moving up, moving down, sitting still or maybe even getting out for a season or two. Time will tell.

Brian



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Robski97

RO# 7334

Posted - Dec 02 2017 :  10:17:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dude,
as always ur soap opera... keep me posted. Were gone in march . EAST we go. There is no turning back.

Would love to see u out there pal.

Rob


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BillyK

RO# 24466



Posted - Dec 08 2017 :  14:45:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I spoke with someone who is involved with the construction. He says they will be wrapping up the work in the next few weeks and Watch Hill will be opening on time. As for the vendor, there is politics on the island that make it difficult for new people to start, and it's not only the government. He said the bid process is to start very soon.

Don't shoot the messenger.

Happy Holidays to all.

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