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Roy

RO# 114

Posted - Oct 27 2017 :  23:43:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A year's provisions, but no EPIRB? WTF.

Roy
"Livin' life in the laid back lane" - Sunny Jim

Homeport: Sarasota FL

Radioactive

RO# 3238



Posted - Oct 28 2017 :  01:07:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/27/us/women-lost-at-sea-rescued-navy-trnd/index.html

What it looks like is two people who have never been outside of civilization had "a great idea", planned for a weekend, and took off. If something went wrong, they could call 911 or make a call on VHF.

It never occurred to them that, beyond about 12 miles, you are on your own. Totally. Most lifelong boaters are aware that an EPIRB, a sat phone, and/or HF rig is very nearly as important as having a spare ( manual ) water maker ( oops ).

There is also another viewpoint ( seen in story comments ), that perhaps they had some other motive, such as get headlines and/or write a book. ( Not a view I agree with )

In any event, they are rather lucky.

--edit--

There are "holes" in the story, possibly due to poor reporting. Difficult to make any actual assessment with the story as provided.


Bill

"No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Bonzai
"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame

Edited by - Radioactive on Oct 28 2017 01:14:33

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Reel Antsy

RO# 9587



Posted - Oct 31 2017 :  08:02:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's starting to unravel. Something in their story isn't right...

https://apnews.com/4460838636004d73b307e44ce4b66fe5



Jamie
1985 Trojan F32





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cwms

RO# 7357

Posted - Oct 31 2017 :  08:29:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Turns out they had the EPIRB, but never turned it on.


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GeeBee

RO# 385



Posted - Oct 31 2017 :  08:44:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
SCAM!



"The trouble with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."... Margaret Thatcher

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jlee815

RO# 27501

Posted - Oct 31 2017 :  08:46:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
a years worth of food for a voyage from Hawaii to Tahiti . Granted that is far but who loads a years worth of provisions.... I am happy they are alive but really why not activate EPIRB after day XX? Something smells fishy....

Jason
Doral Prestancia

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GeorgeKohler

RO# 33821



Posted - Oct 31 2017 :  08:59:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, something doesn't add up here. What could their motive possibly be?


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HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Oct 31 2017 :  09:25:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it's BS. They want to sell a book or movie rights and planned out this scam.

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2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

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alk

RO# 5508

Posted - Oct 31 2017 :  10:31:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The balloon boy hoax, part 2.


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SailArmy

RO# 2656

Posted - Oct 31 2017 :  14:45:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
+100


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Arnold

RO# 12330

Posted - Oct 31 2017 :  15:11:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
How do you store a year worth of food in an old sailboat?

Arnold

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Roy

RO# 114

Posted - Oct 31 2017 :  15:22:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I know this is a controversial subject, but if it can be proven that this was just a stunt to generate a story for a book or movie, then maybe those ladies should be made to pay for their rescue.

Roy


"Livin' life in the laid back lane" - Sunny Jim

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Radioactive

RO# 3238



Posted - Oct 31 2017 :  16:42:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
https://www.yahoo.com/news/experts-story-2-sailors-lost-182223699.html

TL;DR

Short version: Many details do not appear to match the sailors' verbal report. Sailors' story may be inaccurate.


--edit--

To place the apostrophes correctly.



Bill

"No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Bonzai
"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame

Edited by - Radioactive on Oct 31 2017 16:43:44

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November Charlie

RO# 824

Posted - Oct 31 2017 :  18:09:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HOGAN

I think it's BS. They want to sell a book or movie rights and planned out this scam.



I'd bet on it. Almost nothing about their story makes sense.


My signature line is cooler than your signature line.

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boatbum

RO# 36

Posted - Nov 01 2017 :  07:41:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Fishier than Ron Jeremy's mustache.


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GeorgeKohler

RO# 33821



Posted - Nov 01 2017 :  08:39:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by boatbum

Fishier than Ron Jeremy's mustache.


Eewww



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L. Keith

RO# 1615

Posted - Nov 01 2017 :  11:03:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Word on the waterfront is that Bob was their Marine Consultant/Adviser



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easttnboater

RO# 23415

Posted - Nov 02 2017 :  08:13:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
^^^^^^

Now, that is a shout out to the past.



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Fishlips

RO# 23379



Posted - Nov 02 2017 :  09:39:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks boatbum! I was going to have a nice breakfast! LOL


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Fishlips

RO# 23379



Posted - Nov 02 2017 :  09:42:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks boatbum! I was going to have a nice breakfast! LOL


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River Runner

RO# 33941

Posted - Nov 02 2017 :  10:18:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
LOL! Coming from someone with the name "Fishlips" LOL!


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Reel Antsy

RO# 9587



Posted - Nov 03 2017 :  08:02:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
On a lighter note...too funny.

https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/boa/d/50-foot-sailboat/6370727567.html




Jamie
1985 Trojan F32





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Stephen

RO# 14

Posted - Nov 03 2017 :  12:23:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Who ever posted this Craigslist ad should get an award!


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Phillbo

RO# 2553

Posted - Nov 12 2017 :  11:52:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
From Jennifer Appel's facebook::

Quote:
ALOHA WORLD!
I want to thank everyone for their support. Our journey was a fantastic experience until we met the fishing vessel. Think about it - if we were "RESCUED" by the fishing vessel, why did we need to be RESCUED from them by the US NAVY???
The media has spent alot of time adding spin to a story that needed none. Many of the facts are omitted and many obfuscations surround the tale.
Hard to believe, but we have not signed a book or movie deal as the ordeal in itself is still continuing... the last portion being: truth in media, fact checking
We were never "LOST" - we knew where we were - but because the 4' antenna was missing - we were "Lost" to the rest of the world.
I know there is confusion about the initial storm. We were offshore more than 100 miles before the first raindrop hit us. Now, confirmation from the NWS is coming out in support of a piece of the claim on May 3, 2017. I also have supporting data from the raw satellite feed showing an actual storm. My mast is 57' tall - call it 60' for the purposes of discussion. (That is 6 stories tall.) The spreaders are about 35' off the deck. I experienced waves on May 5th starting about 5 am of which 2/3 of them reached more than 1/2 way up to the spreaders. The remaining 1/3 were either higher or lower. You do the math.
We circled Christmas Island, tried to fix the rigging damage and were denied entry. Went to the Cooks and got in a ten knot west current that without full sails we could not safely navigate so we decided to turn back towards Hawaii.
We got into a white squall. That sent us to the Devil's Triangle where we met blue water sharks - which behave quite differently than near shore sharks. I did write a story about them and will put that out with pictures soon. The video I took from under the boat before abandoning her shows many chunks of pretty blue paint missing. It didn't flake off - these were things that hit us.
We left that area and went back to Hawaii - getting as far north as 8 degrees North and 156 degrees West - under Maui but the rigging would not hold.
We went West with the waves and current, using kiteboarding kites (Thank you Bernie), to help steer us to a TINY 7.4km island owned by the US Military called Wake Island. We talked with them and asked for help, but it did not come.
We then decided to go North and catch the bottom of one of the typhoons producing a WNW swell so we could go over the top of the French Frigate Shoals and back to Hawaii - that is what produces the famous North Shore Surfing and October was a banger month - we got it before you guys did!
That is when we met the fishing vessel - they were running from the storm. There were about 20+ Fillipino, Indonesian and Tawainese individuals on the boat. None spoke English. These people kill beautiful things in an incredibly harsh manner for a living - so you can have fish.
They showed me W26 typhoon hitting Japan. We agreed to go to the nearest island to make repairs (Minami) so they offered help. When they learned there were no men aboard, their eyes filled with the sights of fresh meat and dessert.
I know of no safe towing experience where a 100 ton steel boat crashes into a 25 ton fiberglass boat on purpose. I have video of the boat from the day before and the day after meeting the fishing vessel. The damage done in less than 24 hours was incredible. What can knock off a 3/8" steel bow anchor roller out in the ocean??? It was more incredible that we were still floating after being treated like a marlin.
The EPIRB issue is moot. I sent out a PR statement from Okinawa - which I will put up with the other documentation but the press didn't use it because it did not fit THEIR NARRATIVE of our story.
The USS Ashland experience was amazing. My first glimpse of safety being M-16 rifles pointed at me and then those people became some of our best friends. Go back and listen to CO Steve Wasson tell how the Navy was given coordinates 60 miles away from where they actually found us...
XO German will make a fantastic CO, again, on his next ship. Many mahalos to Seaman Aves of Ewa Beach and Chief Don of Kalihi - it was great having O'ahu, Hawaii to help us feel our way around the ship and make us feel aloha comfortable. I have many more to thank but that will come with their chapter.
We also want to thank the US Consulate, without whose help, we could not have made it in a land where I don't speak the language.
The Quarantine officer, MR. YAMAGUCHI, is the most professional and caring human a person in our situation could have encountered. He came in on a holiday and two of his days off to let me be with the dogs. I am grateful.
We are in NYC in Times Square and it is very different than being under the carpet of stars with water lapping at the hull.
I will start putting out video and stories at a blogspot (to be named) after I can get some sleep.
We won't be able to return to Hawaii until the Hawaiian dogs can get two sets of rabies shots to fulfill the Hawaii Quarantine requirement.
I am still hopeful I will get SEA NYMPH back - she has made it through 3 tsunamis since we left her and to the best of my knowledge - my home is still floationg.
I modified the hull over a two year peiod of time and paid for experts to do the mast, antenna, radio hookups and rigging.
Aloha
Jen, Tasha, Val and Zeus



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SailArmy

RO# 2656

Posted - Nov 12 2017 :  14:27:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The EPIRB issue is moot????????????


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