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Radioactive

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Posted - Nov 01 2017 :  14:35:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Report issued.

http://www.navy.mil/submit/display.asp?story_id=103130

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/11/01/navy-faults-us-warships-in-summer-pacific-collisions-that-killed-17-sailors-officials-say.html


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I have only skimmed it, but I found no "revelations".

USN found both ships "at fault", citing list of errors leading up to incident.

RIP those who served.

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To add link to actual release:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/CHINFO/USS+Fitzgerald+and+USS+John+S+McCain+Collision+Reports.pdf

Bill

"No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Bonzai
"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame

Edited by - Radioactive on Nov 01 2017 14:37:19

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boatbum

RO# 36

Posted - Nov 01 2017 :  16:29:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Indeed RIP. Totally unnecessary and a tragic waste of life. I guess I would support lawsuits by family members. I accept that anyone who serves in the military puts themselves in harm's way, but geeze, there was no need for this.

Would anyone be surprised by the 'could have been prevented' conclusions?




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L. Keith

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Posted - Nov 01 2017 :  17:14:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are hundreds of competent mariners that were laid off by the boat companies due to the decline in crude oil prices. The Navy could hire three, out of work, USCG Licensed Mariners (with Unlimited Master's tickets) to keep the watch on each US Navy vessel and put an end to all these collisions. Having Licensed Mariners from South Louisiana in the wheel house would add an extra layer of professionalism, plus as a bonus, the food quality would improve greatly on the boats. The machinery spaces and electronic rooms on these Navy vessels are full of "Contractors" keeping things running, why not use "Contractors" in the wheel house?


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Michael Clemensen

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Posted - Nov 01 2017 :  17:48:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
L.Keith, POPPYCOCK!


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Good Grief

RO# 13137



Posted - Jan 17 2018 :  09:52:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow. . . .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5277731/Navy-charging-five-officers-multiple-ship-disasters.html



-Gene
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking

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j-d

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Posted - Jan 17 2018 :  11:06:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
USN is telling its captains to run with AIS on, at least in congested areas...
http://gcaptain.com/u-s-navy-ships-to-turn-ais-transmitting-on-in-high-traffic-areas/
Appropriate, but still not a substitute for good watchstanding. Maybe they should take off on the automotive industry: Automatic Braking...


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boatbum

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Posted - Jan 17 2018 :  20:04:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It's one thing to die in combat under duress and totally different to die because someone can't take charge and prevent an accident.


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Good Grief

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Posted - May 09 2018 :  11:24:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Latest - a J.O. pleads guilty -

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/uss-fitzgerald-officer-pleads-guilty-in-collision-that-killed-7-sailors/ar-AAwYP2v?li=BBnb7Kz


-Gene
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." - Stephen Hawking

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Radioactive

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Posted - May 27 2018 :  03:19:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/27/former-commander-uss-john-s-mccain-pleads-guilty-retires-after-deadly-collision.html

"former commander of the USS John S. McCain pleaded guilty Friday to dereliction of duty when the destroyer collided with a commercial tanker"

"Sanchez agreed to retire from service, forfeit $6,000 in wages, and was issued a letter of reprimand."



Bill

"No matter where you go, there you are." -- Buckaroo Bonzai
"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats." - Kenneth Grahame

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