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HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Nov 21 2017 :  16:22:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Reel Antsy

quote:
Originally posted by Padraig

If the officer who charged you is not there.....ask the judge to dismiss charges.

Padraig


Absolutely. The cop is the state's witness and if he's not there, I would have moved for dismissal...



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RO# 36

Posted - Nov 21 2017 :  17:13:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I went to fight a missing front license plate in court in Rosendale NY. The judge asked me if I wanted to spend a night in jail. He was a boozer. The whole court smelled of his sorry a$$. At least the fine was reduced to 5 bucks.
Hopefully you are more lucky!



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ALKA2710

RO# 25407

Posted - Nov 21 2017 :  17:56:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Traffic Attorney costs 500 bucks to get rid of a summons. My daughter just got a speeding ticket, going way over the speed limit. We made the call to a traffic attorney and she didn't even have to show up in court. He took care of the whole thing and pled down to a parking violation. This was also in Suffolk County. She did have to pay a hefty fine but too be honest she deserved it.


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JVM225

RO# 28365

Posted - Nov 21 2017 :  19:18:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CurrentSea

I disagree - Hiring an attorney would of cost me probably about $700
I am out nothing.
How do you figure that?
Lost wages - I think I said, I work more than 40 hours a week and I am salaried, so I lose nothing showing up.





To each his own. That’s why Baskin Robbins offers 31 flavors.
I’d rather pay the $700 then make the minimum 3 appearances and spend the time taking a course I’d already taken, and take the chance of saying something that might sink me in court. Plus, after nearly 4 decades of exposure to the justice system the two things that I consider important are never get involved in it without being represented by a competent attorney who practices that kind of law, and most importantly, you have the right to remain silent and other than basic pedigree information you should always exercise that right if you are, or may be, the subject of any kind of enforcement action. Even just for summonses.
If taking the course is your only penalty, you could take the time to make the three appearances, and don’t mind doing so, then it works out for you and you saved $700. You were very lucky.


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JVM225

RO# 28365

Posted - Nov 21 2017 :  20:51:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ALKA2710

Traffic Attorney costs 500 bucks to get rid of a summons. My daughter just got a speeding ticket, going way over the speed limit. We made the call to a traffic attorney and she didn't even have to show up in court. He took care of the whole thing and pled down to a parking violation. This was also in Suffolk County. She did have to pay a hefty fine but too be honest she deserved it.



Money well spent! The increase in insurance alone for the next few years would easily wipe out the $500 and then some.
My daughter is 20 and my son is 17. Insurance is a killer.
A friend of my daughter since pre-school got pulled over a few months after he got his license for a lane change and headlight and wound up with 5 summonses for a variety of things that I can’t remember. Anyway, the parents are friends of ours.
He’s a great kid who swears he was humble when pulled over. Considering the number of summonses he got, that may or may not have been true. I wasn’t there so I don’t know.
They asked me what I thought they should do. I told them to hire a Lawyer. Someone else told them that they shouldn’t waste their money because the judge would see he’s just a kid and that the cop was picking on him and that’s why he got 5 tickets. I guess that made them feel better.
They let the kid go to court by himself. It didn’t go well in court and they won’t even discuss what happened with the insurance.


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HappyKamper

RO# 33487

Posted - Nov 21 2017 :  20:54:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This whole thread is a good example why the NFL guys are taking a knee.
( However, I don’t agree with how they are protesting)



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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Nov 22 2017 :  08:34:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think I will invest in Knee Pads.
Everyone is taking a knee these days.
NFL
Actresses
Interns
Politicians

Some take the knew in protest, some to get aHEAD at work and some to pray!
LOL




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WALSHIE

RO# 2124



Posted - Nov 22 2017 :  09:37:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JVM225

quote:
Originally posted by CurrentSea

I disagree - Hiring an attorney would of cost me probably about $700
I am out nothing.
How do you figure that?
Lost wages - I think I said, I work more than 40 hours a week and I am salaried, so I lose nothing showing up.





To each his own. That’s why Baskin Robbins offers 31 flavors.
I’d rather pay the $700 then make the minimum 3 appearances and spend the time taking a course I’d already taken, and take the chance of saying something that might sink me in court. Plus, after nearly 4 decades of exposure to the justice system the two things that I consider important are never get involved in it without being represented by a competent attorney who practices that kind of law, and most importantly, you have the right to remain silent and other than basic pedigree information you should always exercise that right if you are, or may be, the subject of any kind of enforcement action. Even just for summonses.
If taking the course is your only penalty, you could take the time to make the three appearances, and don’t mind doing so, then it works out for you and you saved $700. You were very lucky.



OK, that gets my goat up! How was he very lucky? Dave did absolutely NOTHING WRONG!

When I had my 5 bogus summons dismissed the police officer asked me "do you have anything else you want to say"? I said yes, I have plenty but if you are expecting me to thank you for exonerating me on trumped up charges, you can hold your breath.

I have the ultimate respect for law enforcement, but there are some overly aggressive jerks. Luckily they are in the super minority.


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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Nov 22 2017 :  11:10:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Walshie,
Don't sweat it. Everyone reacts differently to things. Some people can't afford to miss 3 part days of work, so they would rather pay to make it go away. To me, If this was a ticket and not a summons, I would of just paid it and been done. But there was no way to pay. I had to show up.
Just having gone thru a divorce once where I paid my attorney thru the nose to do so little, I just am not a fan of attorneys. I am not one to pay to make it go away unless I want to fight it and I didn't want to fight it. Just happy to keep my boat to boat another day and nothing wrong with a little extra safety training. I also want my Captain's license someday, so just glad this won't affect that if dismissed!



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WALSHIE

RO# 2124



Posted - Nov 22 2017 :  12:01:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My point is, you did nothing wrong so you are not "lucky".
It's great that you have a flexible schedule and can be so chill about this.

Anyway, all's well that ends well.


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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Nov 22 2017 :  12:08:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yeah, the first date was a concern but that concern went away.
After that, the judge was very nice and let me pick the next 2 dates.

Another thing that is interesting is just sitting there and watching the whole process.
You learn alot about what is wrong with this country and our legal system and people in power and how things work.
If you have never been in a court, I recommend it. Anyone can go. No need to have a case.



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November Charlie

RO# 824

Posted - Nov 22 2017 :  19:08:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Joeshoes

Yep you do not have to be an overpaid professional black athlete to be abused by these 3rd rate cops.. Jimmy Breslin said it best 40 years ago "A cop is a third string high school athlete who, after a stint in the Marine Corp, cannot get a job paying more for doing less."

Everyone has an "abuse of power" story and they ain't pretty. ..... From one whose father was a NYC cop.

Let the flames begin...



I disagree. Most LEO’s are decent people that are on the job for the right reason - and most also have little tolerance for those that personalize enforcement decisions. “He/she didn’t bend the knee, so I wrote the V” is an unpopular attitude nowadays. As we see in the OP of this thread, though, it is not yet extinct. I, and every other colleague I respect in a training and/or supervisory position will continue trying to train that out of people, but the antiquated attitudes of enforcement option decision making where personal feelings and ego play even the SLIGHTEST role unfortunately still persist. The only personal feelings that should enter that decision process is “do I feel that compliance will be reasonably attained” with the intended action. Writing a bunch of “add-ons” (those violations that are almost always there but nobody ever writes unless they help paint a bigger picture, like the improper display of state numbers on probably 85% of boats) because somebody is a jerk to an officer is abusing authority. It may be perceived as a minor thing, and some would even call it justified, but it never is, no matter how minor. Now - adding them up because the operator makes it plain he does NOT get the point and gives no indication of intended compliance - absolutely. That is the idea behind penalties - to compel compliance with laws and regulations. Nothing wrong with properly enforcing them. But not to avenge hurt feelings.


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GeeBee

RO# 385



Posted - Nov 24 2017 :  10:26:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think it is like everything and everyone else. There are those who are good and those who are a-holes. Unfortunately in our system to deal with the a-holes requires time and money. Most people like CurrentSea have more valuable things to do with their time so they just swallow the bile and deal with it. What is important is to "grieve it later". Another words, don't get in an argument with the officer. Take your grievance to court and let the court do the rebuking. I had a case about 8 years ago, and while I was convicted in a traffic court, when I took it to Superior Court the officer knew he was cooked and it was all dropped. Message sent.



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JVM225

RO# 28365

Posted - Nov 25 2017 :  08:45:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by WALSHIE

My point is, you did nothing wrong so you are not "lucky".
It's great that you have a flexible schedule and can be so chill about this.

Anyway, all's well that ends well.



You’d have to read all of my posts in this thread to put my use of the word “lucky” in proper context.
How was he “lucky”?
Because I wasn’t there and don’t know enough about it, I’m not making any sort of judgement call on the initial interaction between him and the officer that issued the summons so my use of the word “lucky” has nothing to do with that.
Nor am I voicing any opinion on whether or not the summons should have been issued.
That horse had left the barn before this thread had started.
I’ve never met Dave but have read his posts over the years. Based on that, I suspect he is a nice guy, and a competent law abiding boater who would never intentionally do anything dangerous or illegal in the water.
I have no opinions about the Officer or his actions during this interaction at all.
IMHO which is based on my experience and strictly limited in this instance to the ongoing court case: Dave was “lucky” in that he went to court without representation and if all goes as he thinks it will he will have only had to take the course and not pay a big fine or suffer any other penalty that may adversely impact his insurance for the next few years. He is “lucky” that he has the time to take to make the appearances without loss of pay.
He was “lucky” because things could have gone a lot worse for him without representation.


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walterv

RO# 12640



Posted - Nov 27 2017 :  21:18:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
JVM, In all due respect, Dave had a cop, that was a prick, asshole, and just a f-ng maroon. The problem here is why the F should he have to hire an attorney to show the court he was right and the cop was wrong?? The system is rigged, the cops know that and hence the working man cannot afford to pay all this money for attorneys and time off. Stop defending a asshole cop. I do agree, most cops are good, but this guy was a total dick!! Dave was very passive in this and the cop took full advantage of that. Now me, I would want records that he was transporting an injured person to get him to an ambulance on shore, I bet that was BS since Dave saw no one and he spent 15 minutes or so jerking Dave's chain. So when the day would be done, I know the cop was full of Sh$t and would sue that prick!



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Stephen

RO# 14

Posted - Nov 27 2017 :  23:00:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had a run-in with the police this year too. In South NJ where I was towing a tube with my kids. There were two cops in the boat and I saw them earlier go up river. When they came back some 30 minutes later, they slowed and I knew they were going to say something. I had already mentally checked everything - PFD's, running lights, everyone seated who was not in the tube, lookout facing stern, registration at the ready. Sure enough, he lit up the light and came to my port side. He asked if I had a dive flag and I said "no" (the truth). He then went on to tell me that even though I didn't have divers, I needed a red dive flag hung on the boat to tow a tube. I asked him if he wanted to board me to check my extinguishers and lights and he declined. I asked him if he wanted me to leave and he said "no, just get it for next time". So when I got home I checked. Sure enough, I should have a red flag in NJ. So I blew the $15 or so to get one for next year. So my experience was a good one this time. I had a bad one many years ago where some douchebag cop yelled at me for my wake when I was going with the tide at minimum speed. I even called his superior the next day to complain, but I got nowhere with that. I didn't get a ticket, but it was still was annoying. Wouldn't it be ironic if it was the same cop this year!


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Padraig

RO# 4792

Posted - Nov 28 2017 :  07:09:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A dive flag while towing a tube? That seems strange. I was always taught your dive flag should only be used when divers were in the water.

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Good Grief

RO# 13137



Posted - Nov 28 2017 :  07:30:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not a 'Dive flag' (red square w/ white diagonal stripe), but an orange triangular pennant - from the NJ Boating Safety Manual, under Waterskiing -

7. All ski boats shall display a signal pennant which shall be orange
in color and triangular in shape and not less than 12 inches in any
dimension.
8. The pennant shall be displayed at least four feet above the highest
structure on the boat during each of the following activities;
A. While pulling or retrieving a skier
B. While a skier is in the water; or
C. While a tow line is in the water.
9. A person shall not display the pennant at any other time other than
while conducting any of the activities described above in #8.



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JVM225

RO# 28365

Posted - Nov 28 2017 :  10:13:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by walterv

JVM, In all due respect, Dave had a cop, that was a prick, asshole, and just a f-ng maroon. The problem here is why the F should he have to hire an attorney to show the court he was right and the cop was wrong?? The system is rigged, the cops know that and hence the working man cannot afford to pay all this money for attorneys and time off. Stop defending a asshole cop. I do agree, most cops are good, but this guy was a total dick!! Dave was very passive in this and the cop took full advantage of that. Now me, I would want records that he was transporting an injured person to get him to an ambulance on shore, I bet that was BS since Dave saw no one and he spent 15 minutes or so jerking Dave's chain. So when the day would be done, I know the cop was full of Sh$t and would sue that prick!





Walter, you are dead wrong here.
I’ve been reading your posts in this forum for a number of years now and generally find them to be well thought out and valuable, but you are way off base here and your anger towards my comments is misguided.
Again, please read my posts in this thread carefully before getting hot under the collar about my perceived defense of the officer and point out where you see that I’ve done so..
In fact, feel free to quote in context anything you find, and if I’m mistaken I’ll be quick to apologize and clarify.
I haven’t defended the cop or his actions with regards to the issuance of the summons at all. In fact, since I wasn’t there, I’ve refrained from making a judgement about the interaction on the water that day completely. If anything, if you read my comments, other than clarifying the legality of the Officer holding on to the driver license until he returned, I’ve gone out of my way to remain neutral with regards to the summons.
You may have mistaken my neutrality as an indictment of Dave because I haven’t taken his side either in the interaction between him and the officer and the issuance of the summons. If so, you are dead wrong.
Again, I wasn’t there.
Completely separate issue: the court process.
I did recommend that Dave hire a Lawyer to protect himself in the court system with regards to the summons. That’s is in no way a defense of the officer or his actions. It’s a separate issue. In fact, I offered that advise solely to see him protect himself. Not to defend the court system. I think that was pretty clear in all of my comments.
Dave chose not to hire a Lawyer, and while I don’t agree with that decision in general and would have rathered pay the $700 myself, I see his point of view and I’m glad that he didn’t lose money from work and seems okay with having to take the course.
I’m especially glad that the penalty wasn’t worse because I still believe it is dangerous to represent yourself in these things regardless of guilt or innocence.


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GeeBee

RO# 385



Posted - Nov 28 2017 :  11:32:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of my favorite radio shows is "Handel On The Law" out of Los Angeles. The show's slogan, "Marginal Legal Advice, where I tell you that you have no case"
The situation here is described multiple times on the show. As Bill Handel says, "Hey, you got screwed, you want justice? Pay up". As he said the other day, you can pay or you can just say you got screwed and get on with your life. But, at least in America you can get justice. That is so true.

I've been in places and situations where that is not true. I had to escort one of my passengers, a Guatemalan Indian out of Guatemala City airport one night when the authorities were getting ready to put him down some rat hole, where he would die or be killed, just because he was an Indian. As they were hassling him, I put my arm around him, said "Hey Amigo" and walked him out of there and into a cab where I gave the cab driver 20 bucks and said take him anywhere he wants to go. They did not interfere with me because I am "American El Hefe" and with that, I had all the authority in the world. I've been in Africa where I saw a man dumped out of a wheel chair and a rifle barrel put to his head because he greeted us at the hotel entrance. I've paid 5000 dollars to a Mexican Airport Commandante just to get my airplane back because he claimed there was something wrong with my paper work (there always is something wrong with your paper work in Mexico). I am regularly and without any suspicion breathalyzed before my passengers in Amsterdam. I'v had my cell phone "searched" for no reason (other than to see if I had any porno on it) whatsoever in Dubai.

Point is this. Yeah it sucked, but no one got hurt, justice could be had if you wanted it. As Bill Handel says, suck it up and if you want justice go get it if you think the price is worth it. It can be had in America, other places, not so much.



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walterv

RO# 12640



Posted - Nov 28 2017 :  20:39:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
JVM,
My anger is not with you or your post, but this particular cop. Your posts have always been fair and balanced, as I hope you have seen mine are. This cop was a prick, and to spend money to defend something that you did not do just pisses me off!!! That is the anger!!!


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JVM225

RO# 28365

Posted - Nov 29 2017 :  09:24:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by walterv

JVM,
My anger is not with you or your post, but this particular cop. Your posts have always been fair and balanced, as I hope you have seen mine are. This cop was a prick, and to spend money to defend something that you did not do just pisses me off!!! That is the anger!!!




After seeing my handle at the beginning of your post (“JVM, In all due respect”) and reading the line in the middle of it directing “Stop defending a asshole cop” I must have misunderstood. If so, I apologize.


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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Nov 29 2017 :  10:18:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
If I thought for a second that my ability to operate a boat or that this could affect my ability to get my Captains's license some day, then I would of hired an attorney. I never thought that was the case, until the last meeting when the smartass DA said it could result in my revocation of my ability to operate a boat. If he would of pursued that, then I would of asked for a postponement so I could get an attorney!

I have treated this as a joke since day 1 and it is and still is.
Therefore, I am handling it on my own without an attorney.

Hopefully the next meeting is the end and this is done and lesson learned by a bunch of us.



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pdecat

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Posted - Nov 29 2017 :  10:48:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
With all the crime on LI you have to question the DA's priority spending time on this stuff.

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ALKA2710

RO# 25407

Posted - Nov 29 2017 :  11:34:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I found away to mentally except this situation that Dave is in and all you have to do is look at in a different way. And that way is look at all the dumb stuff I have done that I could have gotten a ticket for and got away with it. I am way ahead of the game.
Al



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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Nov 30 2017 :  08:00:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by pdecat

With all the crime on LI you have to question the DA's priority spending time on this stuff.



Long Island is not a crime capital. I beg to differ with this comment. We have pockets of bad neighborhoods but very low crime rates. Most of the cases I see in court are related to driving without license, petty larceny, etc.



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RO# 4570



Posted - Nov 30 2017 :  12:19:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have my own experience with law enforcement on th the water. Several years ago my wife, 2 daughters (age 10-6) were on a local lake midweek, there were 2 boats on the lake. Boat #1 was us and boat #2 was the local sheriffs marine patrol. My wife was skiing, daughters were wearing life jackets, we were enjoying the day.. I noticed the Sheriff boat overtaking me with blue lights on, waving me to stop. Hmm, what could he want. He wanted to cite me for not having a qualified observer! I told Home my 10 year old daughter was the observer, he said “she is not old enough, she must be over 12”. News to be as the regulation said “ qualified observer”being she had been skiing since she was 5 years old in my opinion she was more than qualified. The officer disagreed, said she must be over 12 years old, I asked if he could show me that in writing somewhere, he was not sure. I pointed out to hi. ThT we were the only ones on the water ( the reason we use the boat mid week),I also asked how many times on a busy weekend he saw boats with “qualified observers” doing anything but observing. I told him that when I told my daughter to “watch your Mama, that’s what she did. After some thought and a safety check he agreed. All ended up being well, but he was aggressive at first.

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CurrentSea

RO# 10265



Posted - Jan 26 2018 :  13:58:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Case Dismissed!
Lost 3 more hours sitting there but DA looked at boater safety certificate and dismissed it!



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Robski97

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Posted - Jan 26 2018 :  21:34:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
goodnews !!!!!1


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Dani-Lu

RO# 19601



Posted - Jan 26 2018 :  21:51:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Congrats.



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RO# 36

Posted - Jan 27 2018 :  08:08:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Way to go Dave!


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j-d

RO# 15782

Posted - Jan 27 2018 :  08:41:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm glad. Stuff like this can always take a bad bounce at the last minute and it's great this one didn't. Dave, you've been very patient!

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RO# 10265



Posted - Jan 27 2018 :  08:51:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The judge, Honorable Patrica Flynn has been great thru this. She is very impartial and I enjoyed watching her work.
She is very liberal as she seems to a firm believer in second chances. She also makes the DA make the decisions.
In other words she wants to DA to make a offer for her to affirm, but she feeds the DA ideas.
I would of locked up a few of the people that came in front of me if I was the judge.

Her comment to me after reading the ticket again was, "Is must be hard to see smaller boats with flashing lights on the water in the daytime!"
So she feeds the DA ideas as she works to dismiss cases.

Other cases I saw:

Girl for dog abuse. I would of locked her up. She got off with can't own any pets for 2 years.
Petty larceny for a young kid. Mom asked judge to arrest her. Judge told her mom to get an attorney and come back.
Numerous MV accidents.
Numerous bench warrants. Amazes me how many people don't show for court dates!
I am amazed when they fine someone $200 and the person asks for 6 months to pay. Wow. There was a 66yo well dressed guy, he needed 6 months. His suit looked like it was worth $200.

The attorney's are clearly the slime in the mix.
There is one guy that looks at the cases for the days and right there on the spot, tries to convince them that he can get them a better deal. I guess that is a true ambulance chaser.

The sad one was an attorney showed up and told judge his client OD and died last night, so his client won't be there.
Judge said get me a death certificate. Smart!



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Posted - Jan 28 2018 :  20:37:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good news Dave, glad to hear you won in the end. This was sure very long and drawn out..

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Posted - Jan 29 2018 :  07:43:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't think the officer who wrote the ticket cares about the outcome.
He never showed once.



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My only experience with police on the water was the day the local Coast Guard pulled me over for an inspection. Coincidentally, that was also the day that I had my 24 year old daughter and 4 of her friends with me on the boat. They found nothing wrong with the boat.

The only speeding ticket I have ever been issued was in Sunnyvale, California. I was driving my TR-4 home from work and was issued a ticket for going 8 mph in a 0(yes that is a zero) mph zone. Needless to say, neither the Judge nor the District Attorney was very impressed with the ticket.

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Posted - Jan 30 2018 :  09:15:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
"was issued a ticket for going 8 mph in a 0(yes that is a zero) mph zone"

What is a zero mph zone? Were you driving on the side walk?



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gcolton

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Posted - Jan 30 2018 :  10:22:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by easttnboater

"was issued a ticket for going 8 mph in a 0(yes that is a zero) mph zone"

What is a zero mph zone? Were you driving on the side walk?



I do not know what it was. Neither did the judge or DA.


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Posted - Jan 31 2018 :  14:05:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by gcolton

My only experience with police on the water was the day the local Coast Guard pulled me over for an inspection. Coincidentally, that was also the day that I had my 24 year old daughter and 4 of her friends with me on the boat. They found nothing wrong with the boat.

George



I would hope that they found nothing wrong with the boat since they were probably not inspecting IT. I would guess that your daughter and her friends passed the inspection since you got no ticket. I would have told them "Come on boys, let's not make this obvious!"



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Posted - Feb 01 2018 :  18:39:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Your entire ordeal just pisses me off. You handled things like a gentleman, and saw this through. Probably the best way to do this. I am a bit of a hot head, and once the cop left, I too would have left. Second, after the dismissal, I would sue the cop, the court and suffolk county for wages lost and your time. Small claims court. It is not about the money, but to slow this prick cop down for the next boater that has to deal with this. Just venting, this crap pisses me off!


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Posted - Feb 02 2018 :  10:31:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm with Walter, this is BS

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