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Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 26 2019 :  22:18:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I went to the boat show today looking for a replacement dinghy I looked at every brand at the show and while I have heard in the past that Mercury was not the best dinghy out there I have heard stey away. At the end of the day i really couldn't find anything wrong with it and the price was far better then anything else!
I put a deposit on a 300 Ocean Runner I have no issue with the price but looking for some reassurance that this isn't a mistake. I can cancel my order without penalty at anytime up until I pick it up. This is the PVC model not the more expensive Hypalon. Please feel free to share good or bad input as I said I can cancel if this is a bad choice. One of the things I like about this unit is the beam is only 5.4" my current one is 5.2" and it just fits not a lot of room for a larger beam the other models I looked at and considered while they were more money the bigger issue was the beam was an additional 4" this may create an issue for me one I don't want to find out about after the purchase!
Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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1996 440 Trojan Express

Homeport: Haverstraw, NY

Sandy

RO# 1159

Posted - Jan 26 2019 :  23:43:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
No experience with those RIBs, but it is noteworthy Merc only backs the PVC models with a 5 yr warranty and the otherwise identical Hypalon ones with 10yrs.

There may be a clue in there somewhere

How long do you hope to use it?


Sandy

Homeport: The Vineyard Go to Top of Page

Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 27 2019 :  07:11:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is no question the hypalon is a better material however the price is at least 50% more. The research I have done seems to indicate that the PVC is fine in this region but in the tropics where there is much stronger sun and year round use the PVC doesn't hold up. As to the warranty they can't offer different warranties based on where you live so I understand why they differentiate between them

Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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1996 440 Trojan Express

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abalmuth

RO# 13885



Posted - Jan 27 2019 :  07:24:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I recently pick up a Highfield Aluminum RIB and Warranty is the same 5 years on PVC & 10 on Hypalon.
At the recommendation of the dealer I bought PVC also as the cost difference was major- He did have both in stock
The Merc web site states"Fabric Achilles HP, Haku PVC" leads one to believe that it could be made by Achilles??
If you have a PVC model get a cover to keep the sun off of it when not in use


Carver Voyager 530 with Volvo 122's/610HP
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.........

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missnmountains

RO# 22737

Posted - Jan 27 2019 :  08:17:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Check out Rigid Boats. They are made in Ft. Myers. We purchased ours in 2010. It is by far the best dink we have owned. You can store your gear (fishing, anchor, etc) in the hull tubes.

They weigh less than an inflatable.

Ken


2008 58 Sedan Bridge

Homeport: Cape Coral, FL Go to Top of Page

abalmuth

RO# 13885



Posted - Jan 27 2019 :  08:47:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ken, they look really nice.
But it looks like Rigid make their weight comparisons vs a Fiberglass RIB
Aluminum RIB is about 50% of the like size Rigid boat
11'10"aluminum RIB is 175lbs, 12'Rigid is 335lbs
My RIB with 25hp 4stroke Yamaha less than 310lbs
My Davit limit is 600lbs and i wanted to make sure I didn't tax it or its mount


Carver Voyager 530 with Volvo 122's/610HP
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.........

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Anchor Management

RO# 32420



Posted - Jan 27 2019 :  09:59:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by abalmuth

I recently pick up a Highfield Aluminum RIB and Warranty is the same 5 years on PVC & 10 on Hypalon.
At the recommendation of the dealer I bought PVC also as the cost difference was major- He did have both in stock
The Merc web site states"Fabric Achilles HP, Haku PVC" leads one to believe that it could be made by Achilles??
If you have a PVC model get a cover to keep the sun off of it when not in use


Technically “not by Achilles” but they are manufactured in the same factory, on the same lines as most are.


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2006 52 Searay Sedan Bridge

Edited by - Anchor Management on Jan 27 2019 11:59:48

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Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 27 2019 :  10:02:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by abalmuth

I recently pick up a Highfield Aluminum RIB and Warranty is the same 5 years on PVC & 10 on Hypalon.
At the recommendation of the dealer I bought PVC also as the cost difference was major- He did have both in stock
The Merc web site states"Fabric Achilles HP, Haku PVC" leads one to believe that it could be made by Achilles??
If you have a PVC model get a cover to keep the sun off of it when not in use


I really liked that dinghy in fact I would have bought it but the beam was just a little wider then I was comfortable with. My current dink has a 5.2 beam and it just fits the Mercury is 5.4 which I'm sure I can fit but the Highfield is 5.8 which if I was sure it wouldn't be in issue I would have happily spent the extra money. I like the fuel tank storage locker in the front that doubles as a seat. Very nice enjoy!


Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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1996 440 Trojan Express

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smitty477

RO# 31913



Posted - Jan 27 2019 :  15:49:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had a mercury airfloor dinghy for about 8 years that was really great - would recomend that to anyone if they have not changed over the years.
Also have owned many hypalon and PVC boats and there was/is no clear winner. Some hypalon boats are quite a problem and some PVC boats are of great quailty and more heavily made.
A summary of the differences we have seen in the boats:
Hypalon – tougher in feel, lower inflated pressure, heavier, more UV proof, costlier, loses some air over time.
PVC – Holds air better , easier to clean, benefits more from cover if in sun, lighter, easier to damage.



Homeport: NY Go to Top of Page

Robski97

RO# 7334

Posted - Jan 27 2019 :  18:42:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

iVE HAD 3 mercury RIBS ONE HYPALON. The Hypalon has had numerous issues ( leaks ) buddy has a 2 yr old Hypalon with the new redesigned rear pontoon. booth are leaking he lost use all season waiting on repairs. Never had an issue with non Hypalon Rib. ( one the marina punctured , drove it into the hidry. ) current one is fine .



2006 44 Sundancer

Homeport: Merrick, NY Go to Top of Page

TheGreatEscapeII

RO# 28606



Posted - Jan 27 2019 :  19:56:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had a Mercury airfloor and it was junk. Even spent the money for a replacement floor and it still had leaks. Ended up going with a Saturn inflatable and it is extremely well built. I've had zero issues with it and it's going on 2 years.

Captain Joey
TowBoatUS Captain - Lake Lanier
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2005 Chaparral Signature 240

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Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 27 2019 :  20:01:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for all the replies I feel a lot better about my decision!

Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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1996 440 Trojan Express

Homeport: Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Jan 28 2019 :  09:24:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dave, it's the UV rays that break down the PVC. Buy a cover and use it, and it will last many years.

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1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

PascalG

RO# 12212



Posted - Jan 28 2019 :  12:23:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Up north where you get sunshine about 60 days during your 90 days boating season, PVC will outlast the mercury outboard which for me would be the deal killer :)

Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper

Homeport: Miami, FL Go to Top of Page

WALSHIE

RO# 2124



Posted - Jan 28 2019 :  14:34:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I had one, I abused it by leaving outside in the sun and snow over the winter and it lasted a long time.
I really wish I had taken better care of it, kept it out of the sun.

My buddy bought a "big dog" at the boat show and well, it didn't last long, split at the seams. Be happy you didn't get that one.


Favorite Quote: Don't sweat the petty things...AND...Don't pet the sweaty things!! - Steven Tyler

Homeport: Hudson River Go to Top of Page

November Charlie

RO# 824

Posted - Jan 28 2019 :  15:02:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PascalG

Up north where you get sunshine about 60 days during your 90 days boating season, PVC will outlast the mercury outboard which for me would be the deal killer :)



Oh, man, I missed that part of it. Didn’t realize people still bought Merc outboards. Reminds me of an old saying (that’s not appropriate for a family forum) about slamming something in a door...


My signature line is cooler than your signature line.

Homeport: Northwest Go to Top of Page

Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 28 2019 :  22:08:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have had my merc 9.9 for several years and very happy I have never been stranded like I was in the past with my Yamaha which I loved as well.
My current dink is hypalon and I kept it covered most of the time the cover will fit the new dink just fine.


Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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1996 440 Trojan Express

Homeport: Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

abalmuth

RO# 13885



Posted - Jan 28 2019 :  22:18:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
RE: Merc outboard
When i sold my last boat I thought i was out of boating for good and blew out my Dink, 9.9 Mec 2 stroke, As well as some other items. that Merc was a great motor and i kicked myself in the a$$ for getting rid of it, it did go to a good home of another RO. It's easy to push them up to 15hp


Carver Voyager 530 with Volvo 122's/610HP
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.........

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Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 29 2019 :  08:22:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by abalmuth

RE: Merc outboard
When i sold my last boat I thought i was out of boating for good and blew out my Dink, 9.9 Mec 2 stroke, As well as some other items. that Merc was a great motor and i kicked myself in the a$$ for getting rid of it, it did go to a good home of another RO. It's easy to push them up to 15hp



I have a newer 4 stroke it runs like a top no issues. I was forever tinkering with my Yamaha until my wife said enough is enough. It used to run perfectly until I would go on vacation then it would always give me a problem this said it is likely still in service mine too went to a fellow RO who had owned several of these motors and said he would have no issue getting it working fine, I hope he still uses it every day.


Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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1996 440 Trojan Express

Homeport: Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

HOGAN

RO# 3813



Posted - Jan 29 2019 :  10:03:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by abalmuth

RE: Merc outboard
When i sold my last boat I thought i was out of boating for good and blew out my Dink, 9.9 Mec 2 stroke, As well as some other items. that Merc was a great motor and i kicked myself in the a$$ for getting rid of it, it did go to a good home of another RO. It's easy to push them up to 15hp




Thanks for selling it to me! That motor was so good that someone stole it off my dink that was on the back of my boat... Luckily, another RO here had one that he sold to me.




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1999 Trojan 440 Express
2005 Scout 175 Sportfish

MMSI# 338049724




Surly to bed, surly to rise...

Homeport: Haverstraw Marina, Haverstraw, NY Go to Top of Page

PascalG

RO# 12212



Posted - Jan 29 2019 :  10:27:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is a reason you never see a merc on any Yacht tender, launch, pump out boat, tow boat...

Pascal
1970 Hatteras 53 MY
26' Starfish sloop
12' Westphal Catboat
16' Hobie Cat
13' Sandbarhopper

Homeport: Miami, FL Go to Top of Page

Audrey II

RO# 30499



Posted - Jan 29 2019 :  22:23:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is also a reason I don't own a yacht pretty sure it has something to do with money! I'm good with what I've got :)

Dave

“Time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time.” – T.S. Elliotcommon.
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1996 440 Trojan Express

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smitty477

RO# 31913



Posted - Jan 30 2019 :  06:44:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I was always surprised about how many of the small and intermediate Mercury outboards were made by Yamaha.


Homeport: NY Go to Top of Page

abalmuth

RO# 13885



Posted - Jan 30 2019 :  07:12:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Since we’ve shifted the thread to Dink motors I have to say that with my new setup having the engine stay on the dink all the time is a great thing!
Even though my new 25HP is ‘Light’ at 130lbs I’m now too old to screw with it, never mind the electric tilt/trim is really sweet.


Carver Voyager 530 with Volvo 122's/610HP
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.........

Homeport: Huntington/Greenport, NY Go to Top of Page

Robyns Nest

RO# 4846

Posted - Jan 30 2019 :  10:11:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The small Mercs were made by Tohatsu. Some still are.

The early 4 stroke Mercs were Yamacurys. Black paint and diff cowling.

I don't think any merc today is made by yamaha.


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2003 56 Post Convertible 2x1300HP V12 MAN
2018 30' Sea Hunt Gamefish 2x300HP Yamahas
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"The future ain't what is used to be."
- Yogi Berra

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Robyns Nest

RO# 4846

Posted - Jan 30 2019 :  10:12:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HOGAN

quote:
Originally posted by abalmuth

RE: Merc outboard
When i sold my last boat I thought i was out of boating for good and blew out my Dink, 9.9 Mec 2 stroke, As well as some other items. that Merc was a great motor and i kicked myself in the a$$ for getting rid of it, it did go to a good home of another RO. It's easy to push them up to 15hp




I still have a 9.9 in storage. Will not let that one go ever.

Thanks for selling it to me! That motor was so good that someone stole it off my dink that was on the back of my boat... Luckily, another RO here had one that he sold to me.






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2003 56 Post Convertible 2x1300HP V12 MAN
2018 30' Sea Hunt Gamefish 2x300HP Yamahas
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"The future ain't what is used to be."
- Yogi Berra

Homeport: Monmouth Beach NJ Go to Top of Page

smitty477

RO# 31913



Posted - Jan 30 2019 :  10:18:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Robyns Nest

The small Mercs were made by Tohatsu. Some still are.

The early 4 stroke Mercs were Yamacurys. Black paint and diff cowling.

I don't think any merc today is made by yamaha.




Probably not - but it seemed that some of these posts were talking about 'older' outboards. I know that when I pulled the cowl off on my 115 Yamaha 4 stroke next to a 115 Merc it was identical except for color.



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Robyns Nest

RO# 4846

Posted - Feb 03 2019 :  11:34:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
When I am talking about small outboards I am not talking about 115's. And yes it was made by yamaha, Merc did not have 4 stroke tech then.

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2003 56 Post Convertible 2x1300HP V12 MAN
2018 30' Sea Hunt Gamefish 2x300HP Yamahas
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"The future ain't what is used to be."
- Yogi Berra

Homeport: Monmouth Beach NJ Go to Top of Page
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