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OLD HOUSEBOATER

RO# 9099



Posted - Jan 26 2007 :  23:29:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


Once in a while a request comes up for information on how to lubricate control cables.

You need a foot and a half of 3/8 ID reinforced plastic hose from Lowes, a tire valve, three hose clamps, a tire pump or small 12 volt air compressor with a gage, and MMO.

Shave the tire valve down and clamp it in one end of the hose.

1. Remove the fittings from one end of the cable.

2. Put 3 inches of Marvel Mystery Oil in the hose for every 20 feet of cable length.

3. Double clamp oil filled hose over cable.

4. Apply and maintain 50 PSI of air to the tire chuck. DO NOT EXCEED 50 PSI.

5. It will take 10 to 30 minutes for oil to appear at the other end. then your done. Have rags to catch the oil if your in a sensitive area.

I suggest safety glasses just in case somethings blows apart, but I have never had a problem. My save rate on cables is about 75%. I did all my cables every 2 years as PM but I was not on salt water.




OLD HOUSEBOATER
The French fries are cold so we gave you extra.

Homeport: GULF SHORES AL.

hooks

RO# 13083

Posted - Jan 26 2007 :  23:41:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice set up Houseboater. I'm gonna copy and paste that for later. Thanks for the post..

Regards, Jim


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jmas

RO# 4313



Posted - Jan 26 2007 :  23:42:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good tip, Ill give it a try.

Joe M.
Luhrs 340 Express Fish

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jtybt15

RO# 3300



Posted - Jan 27 2007 :  00:37:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That'll work!!! I've had to make a few cable oiler/greasers. I turned the brass tube, at the end of one cable, in the shape of a zerk fitting so it fit a grease gun. Another one I soldered a zerk fitting to a brass tube that fit a cable. The last one I just got a tube that fit both the outdrive oil pump and the cable and pumped the high performance outdrive oil into the cable.

Cables are expensive so if you do as OHB does and grease/oil them, they can last almost indefinately.





Charlie

There is much to be said, in a world like ours, for taking the world as you find it and fishing with a worm.-Bliss Perry, 1904



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Bay2260

RO# 20004

Posted - Jan 27 2007 :  00:55:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I like that! That's way better than anything I've tried yet!

Thanks,
Pete


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starfishkiller

RO# 16333

Posted - Jan 29 2007 :  11:34:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used this method on my cables and it worked great.
eric



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KiDa

RO# 16492



Posted - Jan 29 2007 :  13:00:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OLD HOUSEBOATER





OHB:

Do you have pix of this setup? I think I know what you are talking about, but I am a visual person by nature.

TIA



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David
Saint Max
'99 330 Sundancer

==========

Capitalism is to this administration what Judaism was to the Third Reich.

-- Me

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OLD HOUSEBOATER

RO# 9099



Posted - Jan 29 2007 :  16:36:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Picture is at the top of the post. It's the assembly under the MMO

OLD HOUSEBOATER
The French fries are cold so we gave you extra.

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bruceb

RO# 20429

Posted - Jan 29 2007 :  19:35:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That is an excellent idea...thanks for posting.

"Common sense is not very common"

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bkap

RO# 12569

Posted - Feb 05 2007 :  13:48:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I need to try this before deciding to replace shift cables.

Does it matter which end you start with? By the transmision? By the shift lever?

What issues would there be with dual stations?

Thanks.


Bill

"Still Crazy"

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OLD HOUSEBOATER

RO# 9099



Posted - Feb 05 2007 :  14:22:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What ever is easiest. Put a rag on the other end to catch drips. Let us know how you make out.

I always did the uppers first as they have more exposure to the weather.


OLD HOUSEBOATER
The French fries are cold so we gave you extra.

Edited by - OLD HOUSEBOATER on Feb 05 2007 22:05:51

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Noodles

RO# 2548

Posted - Feb 07 2007 :  13:57:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What a great tip. Thanx

Barnacle Bill
22' Cobia "The Beast"

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KiDa

RO# 16492



Posted - Feb 07 2007 :  20:50:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OLD HOUSEBOATER

Picture is at the top of the post. It's the assembly under the MMO



Sorry shipmate. I just found out that PhotoBucket (and the like) have been blocked at work.


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Best Regards,

David
Saint Max
'99 330 Sundancer

==========

Capitalism is to this administration what Judaism was to the Third Reich.

-- Me

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OLD HOUSEBOATER

RO# 9099



Posted - May 05 2007 :  16:14:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anybody try this lately?

OLD HOUSEBOATER
The French fries are cold so we gave you extra.

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Hystat

RO# 14205

Posted - May 05 2007 :  17:42:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They used to sell an aerosol version of this in motorcycle shops for brake and shifter cables, but I haven't seen them for years - this is handy - thanks!


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jimraab

RO# 13279

Posted - May 05 2007 :  21:40:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you guys think this process might free up a frozen steering cable on on my 2005 Seadoo GTX? The Seadoo is only 2 years old and happen to just lock up while sitting unused for about 5 months in my garage.

Thanks!


Regards,
CarverJim

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OLD HOUSEBOATER

RO# 9099



Posted - May 05 2007 :  23:46:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Might work BUT since this is a steering cable I'd suggest you spring for a new one. Keep us informed.

OLD HOUSEBOATER
The French fries are cold so we gave you extra.

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jimraab

RO# 13279

Posted - May 06 2007 :  04:48:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I won't hesitate to replace it if necessary. I can't believe this cable is $140.00. My cables on my Carver boat are less than half the cost of the much shorter Seadoo cable. The margin on this thing must be 1000%.

Thanks!


Regards,
CarverJim

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OLD HOUSEBOATER

RO# 9099



Posted - May 06 2007 :  12:32:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the wonderful world of Bombardier

OLD HOUSEBOATER
The French fries are cold so we gave you extra.

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b_fuss

RO# 22328

Posted - May 21 2007 :  11:52:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OHB, to do this. Would I just pull the shifter housing and disconnect the "shift and throttle" cable then attach the oil kit assembly?? Thanks I have been wondering how to do this my cable are a couple years old and getting a little stiff.


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j-d

RO# 15782

Posted - May 21 2007 :  13:53:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
b_f,

Yes, disconnect whatever you have to in order to be able to clamp the OHB Lube Kit Hose to the cable casing. In case of an outboard [OMC] I had to take the connector off the end of the cable. In my case, 1/4" hose worked. Whichever end is easier.


God Bless, jd
1996 Sea Ray 215EC
357CID/4V/275HP RWC 1G408541 Alpha1G2 1.62 14-1/2*23*3 Aluminum


Homeport: Sunny Florida Go to Top of Page

carver 2557

RO# 11591

Posted - Nov 25 2010 :  16:53:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bump...


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Cam

RO# 1558



Posted - Nov 26 2010 :  06:30:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good bump Carver....As I was reading this, I thought to myself "I remember reading this before a few years ago", not realizing the age of the post. I guess they are right, the mind is the first thing to go.

" If you think nobody cares, try missing a few payments " (author unknown)

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carver 2557

RO# 11591

Posted - Nov 26 2010 :  07:12:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Mind?...what mind?...bump?...what bump?...you have a bump on your mind?...strange....

Thought this was a very useful and helpful tip for looking after cables, so I gave it the "CB"..Carver Bump...
It's something I am going to try in the spring....



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chc

RO# 28591

Posted - Dec 08 2010 :  22:26:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Rigged a similar thing using a small bicycle tire pump & Mouse Milk. took a bit longer to work the oil thru the cables. But seemed to work fine. frankly, I never thought the cables would handle that much pressure. Great idea


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j-d

RO# 15782

Posted - May 22 2011 :  14:02:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't see a reason why this wouldn't work on a steering cable. The one I looked at seemed to call for 3/4" hose. There are tire valves that would wedge into 3/4" and then be clamped.
If it was "rotary" steering like most outboards, the oiler could be used from either end. Our I/O is rack steering, so the oiler would have to be put at the outdrive end. Just getting in there is such a PITA that I think I'd just get a new cable.


God Bless, jd
1996 Sea Ray 215EC
357CID/4V/275HP RWC 1G408541 Alpha1G2 1.62 14-1/2*23*3 Aluminum


Homeport: Sunny Florida Go to Top of Page

KiDa

RO# 16492



Posted - Nov 13 2013 :  08:24:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Just bumping this up in case anyone needs to work on their cables this winter.

Thanks to OHB for this one.


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Best Regards,

David
Saint Max
'99 330 Sundancer

==========

Capitalism is to this administration what Judaism was to the Third Reich.

-- Me

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Cam

RO# 1558



Posted - Nov 13 2013 :  08:32:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This post is good enough for me to make it a sticky. Now it will be available right on the main menu.



" If you think nobody cares, try missing a few payments " (author unknown)

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stmbtwle

RO# 7934

Posted - Nov 13 2013 :  09:35:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
OHB do you think it might work on a steering cable?


Willie: Look Ma no paddle!

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OLD HOUSEBOATER

RO# 9099



Posted - Nov 13 2013 :  21:47:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Steering cables have the same construction as throttle and shift cables only bigger. You would have to up the size of the hose. HOWEVER: steering cable failure is more of a hazard than throttle or shift. Let us know your results. Note: this has been discussed higher up in this thread.

OLD HOUSEBOATER
The French fries are cold so we gave you extra.

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gaineso

RO# 10303

Posted - Nov 14 2013 :  19:12:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Saved and will be tried on my 26 YO cables. Steering stays lubed. It's hydraulic.


Live Free!! Die Well!!

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RWS

RO# 25075



Posted - Feb 21 2014 :  04:54:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
here's a good bump for everyone.

I remembered this and did a search.

I'm doing an adjustment this weekend for WOT and will do this at the same time.

GOOD BUMP !

RWS


1983 Trojan International 10 Meter
Twin Yanmar 315 Turbodiesels
Solid Glass Hull
Woodless Stringers
Full Hull Liner
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smitty477

RO# 31913



Posted - Mar 14 2014 :  15:02:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
FWIW - older cables that were solely steel jacketed could receive some benefit from cable lubricants.
Going back 15 years or more most marine control and steering cables started being lined with Teflon or similar types of liners which should not be lubricated.

If you do introduce a petroleum based lube into these cables the Teflon liner will most often soften and swell leaving you with more issues a year after lubing them. If you must send something down into these 'plastic' jacketed cables please consider a non petroleum based lube such as "Superlube" and avoid the light penetrating solutions such as WD-40 at all costs. There is a reason why most all current marine control cable suppliers have Q & A's that tell us to not lube these 'permanently lubricated' type cables.

I have had this same situation exhibited but much worse in the "teflon bearing surfaces" of a larger davit pivot which would completely 'lock in place' after petroleum products were used. It became so common on these davits that we wrote up a procedure to fix them complete with photo's and a step by step process.

Hope this helps



Edited by - smitty477 on Mar 14 2014 15:03:29

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Shake n Bake

RO# 16525

Posted - Apr 30 2015 :  15:24:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I used this method to lube a windshield wiper motor shaft that was binding and grinding. It looks like it saved the motor.


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