bilge hose won't co-operate

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I am replacing the forward discharge hose on the bilge pump. It is very difficult to get to and it wont pull through the stringers. It is 1 18 hose. Can I feed a smaller hose through and use an adapter on the pump and thru hull?
 
sure you could but pump volume may be reduced.

I assume that there must be a known problem with the existing hose. They don't go bad often.
 
Hi Bruce
Good question, I hadn't noticed till this spring. it looks like it was stepped on or squashed and then deteriorated. I did have a muskrat in the boat last year, through the elbow in the exhaust and didn't find any damage, maybe it tried to get out through the bulk head opening?
I have a longer story on the muskrat and pictures of the varmint and corrections taken on the exhaust if your interested.
Don
 
Why can't you abandon the existing hose and run a completely new one thru the stringers where you want? Wouldn't use a smaller hose.
 
Hi Gregory
I would have to cut through 3 stringers to reroute under the generator, no access
The existing hose runs through 2 stringers under the forward head on my Carver 456,impossible to access as well. The existing bilge hose is not smooth inside which according to some experts reduces the flow by 30%. If I use a smooth interior hose I would have the same flow??
Don
 
yeah, my brother's Carver is like that--poor access to just about anything you might need to fix. I'm sure there's a formula to determine max flow for an I.D. of hose--I don't know what it is except that flow is inversely proportional to pressure and decrease hose size = more pressure.
 
Don, what is preventing current (old) hose from pulling thru stringers ? Just friction, sharp turns ?

BOB J
 
2 sharp 90 degrees turns on rough cut fiberglass openings, very poor design.
I wish the person who designed these Carvers had bought one and had work on it?
I know with all the work I have done on the boat, there is an easier way
 
Don, is there any chance you could take an end of hose & tape some braided fishing line to current hose with Gorilla tape. This tape is scary sticky! You'll have to cut it off; you can't pull it off; trust me.
BOB J
 
can you just cut out a section of hose and insert a new piece? Is there any sealant where the hose passes through the stringers?
 
Hi Bob its a good idea but I have to pull 12 ft of hose through 2 90 degree turns on rough cut fiberglass, I wouldn't want to loose the hose, and not have a conduit to pass another hose through.

Hi Bruce the hose is cut off right at the stringer, there is no room to secure hose clamps.

thanks all
Don
 
Any chance a small person (capable child?) might be able to squirm in with appropriate skin protection to cut out the old and thread in the new hose lubed with soap or Teflon spray?

Or could you re-route new hose?

Even if you wouldn't have the flow loss of the smaller dia. hose, the odds of threading it through the existing hose with its corrugated inside surface, through 12' w/ two 90* turns , seem rather minuscule.

...If... you can see pretty much the whole run, there is a good likelihood you can rig daffy gizmos to successfully get the old out and new in.
 
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Originally posted by pdecat

can you just cut out a section of hose and insert a new piece? Is there any sealant where the hose passes through the stringers?






I have this project as well. Last fall when I popped off the main bilge pump to clean under it the discharge hose broke off. Mine will fairly easy to get at but what should be used to splice the new section to the old?

Thanks
Niles
 
There are many different types of unions. If the hose is suitable I like the rubber outside the pipe plumbing type sold at home depot. If not some type of interior union with or without sealer would be my next thoughts.
 
As Bruce said though I'd think the sometimes-very-handy outside rubber (repair) clamped sleeves would be a bit risky on flexible hose,

-but do you think the hose which already broke is reliable enough in the remaining section so it will not soon leak and recycle bilge water back in the boat and possibly on other vulnerable parts(wiring?).

https://www.grainger.com/category/b...e-tubing-and-fittings/plumbing/ecatalog/N-qvx
 
Hi Everyone
I replaced the hose!! Found out a muskrat chewed the hose,and caused the problem. I cut through the stringers at the top and found the bilge hose was zip tied to other hoses in 8 places. I used an inspection camera to perform the operation of cutting all zip ties looking at the camera. I did have to fashion a scalpel (knife) to a deck wash broom handle to give me an extension. Surgery was complete, I attached a fish string through the hose so I could pull the new hose 14 ft. through the stringers.
thanks for all your input.

if you would like the full story with pictures, PM me and I will send.
how do you up load pictures from an I phone on this site? my grandkids are not available
 
Way To Go!! You may have to change your name from Don to Dr. Jerry after rigging up that good solution and ending up getting it out & in right.
And we always have room for a good boat-altering evil muskrat story. Can't advise on the pic issue though since I've never posted one, but if you can load yours to shutterfly or any pic-saving server site , this from the "extra menu > FAQ " at top of this page might help? :

"You can easily add a hyperlink to your message.
All that you need to do is type the URL (http://www.boatered.com/forum/), and it will automatically be converted to a URL (http://www.boatered.com/forum/)!

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