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Ram Sport & Dog Daze,

I feel bad for hijacking someone elses post....

In response to the 3007 Carver Aft Cabin that was once at CP, Her name was CACHETTE, but I do not know where or how she was docked. I believe it may have been at SYC this summer and CP the year before. I think I can get it for a steal

This is my first boat on my own, and I am concerned about being able to handle it (all of the surface area vs. an express cruiser). I am also concerned about the 10 degree aft deadrise. Can you shed any light on this? Can you recommend anyone here in the spring to teach me the ins and outs of this age and size of boat? I will be taking Power Squadrons again this winter, but don't want to have a boat that I am afraid to take out.

Thanks for your help!

Sandusky Guy

Also, in regards to CP, how is the Marina and the useability of it compared to others in the area? How bad is traffic to deal with?
 
The 3007 was a big seller for Carver, and predecessor to the uber popular 3207. The 10deg. deadrise is average for a carver, or most cruiser style boats of the day. The boat will handle well, docks like a dream, and will ride a little hard, but not bad. It will not pound, as it has a nice sharp entry at the bow.

As far as Cedar Point Marina...one of the best out there in my opinion. Pricewise, it's at or less than everyone else on the Bay, and they include 2 season passes to Cedar Point and Soak City. Navigation wise, it's a pretty easy marina to navigate...wide fairways and good dock spacing. Traffic, at first is horrible. Then you learn when to arrive and when to leave. Only time it was a problem for us was during Holloweekends, but there were record crowds there those weekends

As far as learning to handle the boat, I don't know anyone there you can hire, but dock neighbors are usually really helpful. And like I said...that boat handles while docking like a dream.

you said "on your own"...what have you run prior?
 
SanduskyGuy
Your post brings back memories...

I went from 17' (boating since 8 yrs old) to a 36 Aft Cabin (1982 vintage). At first I too was a little scared and very reluctant to put myself in situations that would challenge my skills (and pride). Personally, I think that was a good thing to "take it slow" at first. But over the past 5 years I have become very comfortable, but still always careful. Last year I got up the nerve to dock "stern in". Found it is easier for me than "bow in". I still take it slow when unsure, and worry a lot less about "pride" anymore.

We "stole" our's on purchase too. Put in a lot of TLC, and in the process learned every inch of the boat. Not a bad thing for any owner to understand. As a result, surprises are rare. Sounds like you have a similar opportunity.

Regarding your deadrise questions. I remember there being a post some time ago comparing hulls. I might be mistaken but seem to remember it being in the Carver owners section - look there. I have the combination hull design, and I like it with the exception of following seas when she seems to drift off course while underway. This requires a little more work on my part at the helm. Of course my perspective is limited as I've owned no other larger boats.

My recommendation is "go for it" (life is short). The boat size/price sounds right, not too big but enough to enjoy yourself with friends and family on (have it surveyed and sea trialed before you buy). CPM is definitely the right location to enjoy - I wish we were closer. You're taking the boating course - good move. The experienced friends you meet boating will help you along the way, and this forum is also a great source of learning. Use it to your advantage.
 
Hi ChefJunk,

Sounds like you have a very nice boat.. Sandusky is a beautiful area to boat in, there's a lot to do in and around the Sandusky Bay and the islands. We heard there is a waiting list of over 100+ to get a dock at CP next summer. As far as I know, there always was a waiting list, but it got shorter a few years back with the economy and fuel prices I think. Then CP opened up additional docks when they moved the transients to the south basin... that was ironically the year we were on the shortened waiting list.. so we basically got in w/o a wait.

We've been there for 2 boating seasons, and we really like being there. My suggestion is if you are interested, get your deposit and name on the waiting list. You might just get lucky and get a dock sooner than you think.

Good luck with the boat...
 
I have had some experience with a 24-26' lyman cuddy and a 32' searay express cruiser. I am only 28 so I don't have a ton of experience. I want a boat I can be comfortable on and not one that I have to be a contortionist to live aboard for the weekend. I will be using it to entertain customers from time to time as well and their comfort is important as well.

Thanks for your insight on CP!

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Originally posted by RamSport47

The 3007 was a big seller for Carver, and predecessor to the uber popular 3207. The 10deg. deadrise is average for a carver, or most cruiser style boats of the day. The boat will handle well, docks like a dream, and will ride a little hard, but not bad. It will not pound, as it has a nice sharp entry at the bow.

As far as Cedar Point Marina...one of the best out there in my opinion. Pricewise, it's at or less than everyone else on the Bay, and they include 2 season passes to Cedar Point and Soak City. Navigation wise, it's a pretty easy marina to navigate...wide fairways and good dock spacing. Traffic, at first is horrible. Then you learn when to arrive and when to leave. Only time it was a problem for us was during Holloweekends, but there were record crowds there those weekends

As far as learning to handle the boat, I don't know anyone there you can hire, but dock neighbors are usually really helpful. And like I said...that boat handles while docking like a dream.

you said "on your own"...what have you run prior?

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Thanks for your thoughts. The only question is can I steal your name...I love it!

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Originally posted by marykhubby

SanduskyGuy
Your post brings back memories...

I went from 17' (boating since 8 yrs old) to a 36 Aft Cabin (1982 vintage). At first I too was a little scared and very reluctant to put myself in situations that would challenge my skills (and pride). Personally, I think that was a good thing to "take it slow" at first. But over the past 5 years I have become very comfortable, but still always careful. Last year I got up the nerve to dock "stern in". Found it is easier for me than "bow in". I still take it slow when unsure, and worry a lot less about "pride" anymore.

We "stole" our's on purchase too. Put in a lot of TLC, and in the process learned every inch of the boat. Not a bad thing for any owner to understand. As a result, surprises are rare. Sounds like you have a similar opportunity.

Regarding your deadrise questions. I remember there being a post some time ago comparing hulls. I might be mistaken but seem to remember it being in the Carver owners section - look there. I have the combination hull design, and I like it with the exception of following seas when she seems to drift off course while underway. This requires a little more work on my part at the helm. Of course my perspective is limited as I've owned no other larger boats.

My recommendation is "go for it" (life is short). The boat size/price sounds right, not too big but enough to enjoy yourself with friends and family on (have it surveyed and sea trialed before you buy). CPM is definitely the right location to enjoy - I wish we were closer. You're taking the boating course - good move. The experienced friends you meet boating will help you along the way, and this forum is also a great source of learning. Use it to your advantage.

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