Diesel Stove & Oven

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Does anybody have any experience with diesel stoves? I want to replace an electric 3-burner Princess stove/oven with something else. Propane is an option but diesel sure is safer.
 
I would rather stay with an AC unit that is gen fired. When you want to grill get an Emerill Grill pan and a butane hot plate or a small weber and find a way to mount it on a rail.
We fire up the genny to recharge (because we are not solar fired) and cook breakfast and dinner that way. Solar would certainly reduce genny hours but I would rather put up with the genny and keep a simple AC stove/cook top.

Look at it this way, why have a genny if you are that hooked into solar? It seems like extra expense to go with a smelly diesel stove when the AC unit is good to go.
 
Yep a lot easier and safer to run the genny to cook...

Diesel and propane belong on sailboats with no Genset
 
Good feedback. The current appliance is that horrible 70's dark brown/copper color. Painting it sure will be cheaper. I am interested in what sort of a draw it will put on a 4.4k genset though. I have no plans to replace the genset as it is in fine working order, but I'm going to most certainly have some load-balancing issues to deal with.
 
Cooking appliances typically pull a lot of juice so yes you may have to balance loads while cooking. the average cooktop burner uses 1000 to 1500 W so it will definitely put a load on the Genset but should be manageable

As to the 70s vintage style, well, that s easy to replace. Does it have those coils too? :)

I'm in the middle of building a new galley on my hatt and I am planning on installing a two element glass top. I got rid of the old coily antique years ago and replaced it with a 4 elements glass top. I have never used more than two at a time. Even when on charter with Charmer doing a lot of cooking we rarely use more than two element at a time because most many dishes rely on the oven, the electric grill or stuff like electric skillet or rice cooker.
 
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Originally posted by PascalG

Cooking appliances typically pull a lot of juice so yes you may have to balance loads while cooking. the average cooktop burner uses 1000 to 1500 W so it will definitely put a load on the Genset but should be manageable






Most cooking at anchor will likely be on a grill on the sundeck now that I think about it.

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As to the 70s vintage style, well, that s easy to replace. Does it have those coils too? :)





Oh, yeah! Nasty looking as it can be. But there are, as you say, ways to change that. I went with an induction cook-top at my house a few years ago and love it, but I understand they're really hard for a generator to deal with.

I've got to let go of some of the ideas refit company #1 had as their price of nearly a quarter of a million was a bit insane for a 40 year old 36' boat. We would like to have some money left in savings to spend on things like food and fuel! :-)
 
I investigated diesel stoves years ago and found that they were mostly used in the PNW and AK where heating the boat was a benefit. Venting the exhaust is an additional problem and from what I remember way back then they could be smoky and temperamental.
I would go with electric. most are 220 so check the label to see what their current requirements are.
Many people like outside grills for much of their cooking and not heating the cabin with an oven is a benefit. Save the turkey cooking for dockside or when home.
 
IMHO Diesel is really NOT a good option. You WILL at some point in time spill fuel and the smell sticks for a long time. If electric isn't fast enough for you Propane is the way to go. Safety Hmmmm A proper installation pretty much addresses the safety issue. There are many thousands of installations in boats and millions in RV's. I have had both and prefer Propane due to its faster cooking. Proper venting is needed because it creates moisture when in use.
 
Thanks, everyone, I'll stick with electric on this refit. A nice propane grill on a rail will probably do most of the heavy duty. And yes, Bruce, we'll do a turkey with shore power :-)
 
I agree. Keep the electric stove...refinish it if need be. Search for a decent butane burner appliance to supplement/augment. We anchor a lot and don't always want to run the genny...bad weather can sometimes make using the bbq/grill difficult. So we use a butane burner, and it's a perfect, fast cooking, easy to use, and store...solution.
 
Agreed, Scott, butane burners are awesome. We have one on our 30 powercat that had done very well for us over the years.
 
We installed a 2 burner glass top several years ago and we can run a air conditioner and the stove top at the same time but the 2 use almost all of the port side 30 amps.

Good luck
Niles
 
look into induction cook tops. they don't add extra heat to the cabin because only the pot gets hot not the coils and may useless power. They do require special pots.
 
I installed an induction cook-top at my house a few years ago and love it. I have to research how they interact with generators.
 
How will you add fiddle rails to any cook top to stop pots from sliding off?
 
My cat actually has those rails in the galley. I haven't gotten that far yet except to not plan on cooking in rough conditions. The entire plan for this boat is to only be used when conditions are ideal. By the time I have her in service we shouldn't be on a schedule any longer.
 
I like something even when anchored. you never know when some a$$hole will zoom buy.
That's why burner tops are recessed on most boat model stoves
 
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Originally posted by pdecat

I like something even when anchored. you never know when some a$$hole will zoom buy.






Say it ain't so! :-)
 
I find the recessed burner tops are a PITA to fit pans I would love to update to a flat glass induction cook top.
 
yes a big complaint with boat stoves is that normal sized pots don't fit. Nevertheless keeping hot stuff where it belongs is critical.
 
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