Documentation Number Location

Jason, we got a title, after getting the mso from the dealer on our boat, then the title was sent by the state to wells fargo, after the lien was recorded by our county...

Here is another conflict in nebraska law, as it is illegal to SELL a boat without a title in nebraska, (does not matter if the boat is documented or not, you must have a title to sell) so without a title, the boat in essence is not marketable.

I don't recall how all that works in Minnesota, but that is what we did here.

You may want to do some research on that to make sure you maintain marketability of your boat, but again, I have not had aboat registered your way in many years.
 
I contacted the state licensing dept so I should have an answer from them by tomorrow. I will post here when I hear back from them.
 
Wow, 3 pages and still going strong. And it seems so simple. Think Supremacy Clause!!
 
I bought a new boat last summer and the lender required documentation. It took right at four months to get everything back, late enough that the boat was already pulled for the winter. Here in Iowa I will have the state tax stamp sticker on the bow, the name and port on the transom and the USCG # in the bilge. My fear is that we often anchor in a quiet no-wake area next to the Rock Island Arsenal Island so we regularly see the arsenal Ranger boat, Iowa DNR, Illinois DNR and USCG Auxiliary. In our boat club marina of 117 boats there is only one other vessel that I know of that is documeted and they have bow numbers also. I realize this is not with the laws. My fear is since we have four different LEs they become quite active. If any of them don't like the look of my boat with the tax sticker and no numbers they may want to board. This area is on the Illinois side of the chanel and if you are anchored with 15 anchors and a tree tied to you and are over .08 blood alcohol content you are going to jail. Just like being caught in a car in a parking lot drunk, they don't have to see the vehicle move.

Yep, I like a few beers in the evening when anchored for the night, likely will have a BAC of .08 or higher, wife just might be there too. I sure hope all the water LEs here in small town Iowa know what a documented boat is.

Oh,,,,,, I sometimes have a cigar too!
 
Here's a thought...if you register with the state, displaying state issued Certificate of Numbers numbers on your vessel, Documentation could be invalidated...if you're Documented, your state Certificate of Numbers is invalid - in your own state, would it also render the registration invalid, as in many states Documented boats are ineligible for state registration?

So, if you rendered both your Documentation and Registration invalid, would your insurance cover an unregistered and undocumented vessel?
 
Just curious but in response to Brian's post, Is it against any state law to be intoxicated on a vessel that is safely anchored in an approved location????
Greg
 
I think most states use the word "operating". The issue then becomes what does operating mean.

In Texas, from Title 4, Parks and Wildlife Code, Chapter 31, Water Safety Act, the law on intoxication is very clear:
"31.097 OPERATION OF VESSEL WHILE INTOXICATED.
No person may operate a moving vessel or manipulate water skis, an aquaplane, or a similar device while he is intoxicated.
 
That's what common sense would dictate. Therefore another unfounded fear of being documented.
 
The reasoning behind not even being able to be anchored while drunk is because of several what ifs. Another anchored vessel breaks loose and you have to pull your anchor and motor to fend him off. He cuts your anchor line and you are drifting. Other possibilities.

What about the law that says my son can drive as long as I am in the boat with him as he is 12 years old? Do I have to be sober to supervise his driving?

Somewhat crazy questions but I do know one person VERY well who was anchored and got the OWI and around here it can cost you your auto drivers license.
 
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