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Ploting my course from Sheltered Cove Marina in Tuckerton to Fire Island. I also want to plot the some alternative courses. So here is what i got.

1) SCM out Little Egg Inlet to Fire Island Inlet.

2) SCM thru ICW to Manesquan Inlet and out

3) Barneget Inlet to ICW to Manesquan Inlet.

4) Atlantic Ocean to East Rockaway Inlet.

5) Ocean to Jones Inlet

#1 is the desired course.
#2 is if ocean is bad, to stay inside longer.
#3 is if ocean starts to get bad to come inside for a while.
#4 is if ocean is bad and decide to duck inside off Long Island
#5 is if ocean is bad and decide to not go to Fire Island Inlet.

Do these paths make sense? I know East Rockaway, Jones and Fire Island Inlets but have no knowledge about Little Egg, Barnegat, or Manesquan.

Another interesting note:

Little Egg Inlet to Fire Island Inlet along 3 mile line is 87 NM.
Little Egg Inlet to Fire Island Inlet direct line is 77 NM.
So hugging the coast is not alot longer.
 
I'm sure Billy will chime in here.
Little Egg dog legs and shoals bad on the north side on the way out, but is well marked. The area from SCM to the inlet is very skinny, stay in the channel and go slow.
 
If this will be your break in trip wont you need to consider some slow running?
 
Dave when do you want to follow me out? I plan on launching April 1st I can take you out of Little Egg almost blindfolded. Why do I think I will eat those words. I will be down at my Marina tomorrow 3/21/09. I might follow you up the coast to Fire Island Inlet. Hopefully that will be good for you. I am not sure the day markers will even be in by April 1st. It is tricky but we will leave on a rising tide that way if you get in trouble we can just wait or I will pull you off. Give me an e-mail at (b.lentz(at)certifiedinstallationassociates(.)com. I think you have my e-mail already. If you want perhaps my wife and I will follow you the entire way for the fun of it. But I can definitely get you out of Little Egg safely. It might be fun for my wife and I to follow you all the way up. I can probably get us overnight slips at Total Marine in Neptune across from the Belmar Marina. Just give me a few days or a weeks notice.
Bill
 
Dave:

Having Bill as an escort takes away a lot of the anxiety associated with the trip. Not that the trip is difficult, but add to the mix that it's an area new to you and then throw in a new boat for good measure, and you have a recipe for 'stuff' to happen.

Your note to hug the coast IMHO is a no brainer given all else that you will be encountering. If you don't hug the coast, you won't be able to duck inside if the need arisses.

I would add an option '1A'.....SCM to Barnegat Inlet and then out. The ICW from SCM to BI is well marked and has two short no wake zones behind LBI. It's a nice area and the short ICW jaunt will give you and the admiral an hour or so to get used to things in the protection of the ICW before heading out into the wild blue yonder.

Either way you chose, have a safe trip. If things turn sour for any reason, I have plenty of extra dock space for you pull in and tie up....you have my email through boatered...I'm about a half hour north of BI on the ICW.
 
Thanks guys.
This is still pre-trip planning, so no firm dates yet.
I will get in touch to grab cell #'s as I get more definative dates.
I just wanted to get tracks marked so I know what I am doing.
I am also trying to figure out how to get there without leaving a car, maybe rent a car and drive down. Either way, I need to get there to spend some time going over the boat, spend some time with the Captain, etc.

Bill,
That is some offer. The entire trip is about 120 nm dock to dock. To just the inlet is 83nm. I figure dock to dock could be 5 hours easily with perfect conditions. If you want to follow us to AYC, you can and spend the night, we can find you a slip.

Dom, By default I do have that marked since I marked it in from ocean, so by default I have it marked heading out.

Thanks guys!
 
Dave:

The Option 1A I mentioned won't add any measurable time to the overall trip. That area of the ICW is a quite strees free run and it will give you some time to settle in.
 
Hopefully Barnegat has the markers out and adjusted. We followed them out and in spite of being in line the water was skinny. There were a few spots where the sporties were backing down to an idle and I don't blame them because we did also.
We came in Manasquan without incident or shallow water. It's a great inlet compared to Barnegat. The bay water from Manasquan down is a little skinny as I recall. This route could add a day to your trip what with no wake zones etc..
 
There are basically two different channels from the ICW into the Barnegat Inlet....the south channel marked in BLUE(I don't remember what it's called) and the north channel marked in PURPLE(Oyster Creek Channel). Both channels lead out the Barnegat Inlet marked in RED. note...all channels are VERY rough drawings...not to be used for navigation.

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The channels are marked with floating cans and nuns and prone to movement throught the season and over the winter. The Oyster Creek channel markers are in....I can't personally speak for the south channel. Along with the LNM, the local Sea Tow group is a great resource to call for local up to date channel info in that area.
 
Due to time we will probably head straight out little egg if ocean conditions are good.
No need to spend time in ICW if conditions on the outside are good.
Admiral will not make the trip, she will complain its cold the whole way!
Just me and some other hearty crew.
 
Wow, that is some dogleg!!

Dave, in 1985, I bought a boat in Tuckertown and brought it home from there. At that time, the markers were simply sticks in the ground! We followed someone out - I couldn't imagine doing it on my own. I hope that it is better marked.

In any event, if you can get someone with local knowledge to lead you out, by all means, do that.

We saw a whale in the ocean on the way up, stayed about 2 miles offshore and had a great ride. Good luck with the trip!
 
Hogan still sticks out of Tuckerton Creek to the cut. Half are missing and almost none have markers. It is not bad once you get used to it. Running out you would think you are going to run aground near Rutgers experimental station.
Bill
 
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Originally posted by dominic

There are basically two different channels from the ICW into the Barnegat Inlet....the south channel marked in BLUE(I don't remember what it's called) and the north channel marked in PURPLE(Oyster Creek Channel). area.

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I vote for the Purple...Oyster Creek Channel...just make sure you look at least two markers ahead. You will more than likely be able to find someone with your size boat to follow out if Billy does not go. Going up to Barnegat will give you a longer (and probably better) "shake down" period; long stretches of cruise speed and no-wake. Plus the twists and turns it will allow you to get a better feel as to how the boat handles. It may come in handy when docking.
 
Talk to some LI locals about the Fire Island Inlet. It can be miserable. If you have the time you may want to check out Watch Hill and Sailor's Haven. Have a great trip and remember to pick your days!
 
FI inlet, is the best inlet on LI IMHO, if that inlet is "miserable", the others are down right dangerous. As any other inlet, one must understand the tides and winds at the time one wants to pass through those inlets.

Walter
 
quote:
Originally posted by oneillch

Talk to some LI locals about the Fire Island Inlet. It can be miserable. If you have the time you may want to check out Watch Hill and Sailor's Haven. Have a great trip and remember to pick your days!

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I am a LI local and I have been thru FI inlet numerous times. It can get hairy depending on the tide but I will be fine in a 40' boat!
 
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