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Bill,. that would be TR-1. And yes, I have the ghp-10, not tr1 gold.

It still has its flaws, but I can live with them.

To be fair though, every major brand now offers no RFU requirement as standard. You probably still want a ruddr indicator for inboards, just so you know which way they point, but the AP's don't need them.

IMHO, all late-model major AP's on the market today are very good. I'd be equally happy with Simrad, Furuno, or Ray as far as the AP's go. All are good, but each has better self integration than to another brand, so stick with your network.
 
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Bill,. that would be TR-1. And yes, I have the ghp-10, not tr1 gold.

It still has its flaws, but I can live with them.

To be fair though, every major brand now offers no RFU requirement as standard. You probably still want a ruddr indicator for inboards, just so you know which way they point, but the AP's don't need them.

IMHO, all late-model major AP's on the market today are very good. I'd be equally happy with Simrad, Furuno, or Ray as far as the AP's go. All are good, but each has better self integration than to another brand, so stick with your network.

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Greg I'm glad I'm not your electronics guy because you seem to be very picky when it comes to electronics!
I think you giving Garmin a solid B is pretty good considering you obviously know what you are talking about and are using the products.
My single biggest prefrence about the latest Garmin line up is the on-line support and ability to do software upgrades through the MFD SD card reader, they also just came out with a stand alone NMEA2000 SD interface unit. Perhaps other manufactures are doing this now? At one time Garmin was the leader in updates and the update process is very user friendly.
With that being said you are right about the AP it was the TR-1 prior to Garmin picking up the 1st rudderless AP. Fast forward 2 years later and many of the other APs do not require rudder input but TR-1 then Garmin were the 1st. I'm curious what don't you like about the Garmin (TR-1 Gold) GHP-10 Auto Pilot?
Bill
 
Bill, like I said these are small points so try not to take them out of context.

First, the AP had a very annoying habit when I first got it. If I followed a route out, then trolled around and then wanted to come back to a route where the first waypoint was very far off (could be anywwhere from 12-100 miles), the AP would try to route me back along my original rhumbline (used on the way out). In some cases, it would try to route me miles and miles back to my original route. I just want to follow a straight line back to my new route.

This was lessened during one of the recent updates. I can dive in a couple of menu pages and choose to set my first waypoint as a destination (don't remember the exact menu choice). It helps, some, but doesn't completely eliminate the problem. I have to power the unit down and restart it to completely eliminate it from attempting to route me back along whatever rhumbline I followed on the way out. This is probably a glitch int MFD though, so blaming the AP probably isn't fair.

Another small annoyance I have is that the shadow drive has never really worked for me. I've made sure it is installed properly (horizontal, close to the steering pump, away from electronics), and I've played with the sensitivity. It still doesn't want to release the helm reliably. I could send it back, but frankly it's not worth it to me because of the mess it will cause.

There are other quirks, like a lack of a "Restart XTE" option. That is such a simple feature, and it would solve my issue above, but it doesn't exist.

Otherwise it works well. The heading sensor seems more sensitive to location than other brands I've worked with, but I can live with it.

Oh yeah, one irritant is that with my pump, the 2.1 L, it doesn't have a stop. The pump will just keep trying to turn the rudder even when it's hard over. A later rev of the pump corrected that, but Garmin doesn't see it as a defect so I can't get it replaced. As a result, if I (or crew) forget to disengage the AP while stopping to fight a fish, it keeps pumping. I've blown a seal on my rudder cylinder as a result. It definatey is not a good design.
 
Greg, I would strongly suggest contacting Garmin directly (sounds like you already have). If you can't get any satifaction I would try and escalte this past customer service to an executive level.
I don't think these are minor glitches or issues. I have to check but I think the heading sensor can be desensitized. I assume by your description it wants to overcompensate constantly, Yes/ No?
I would consider the early model pump stop problem to be a major defect and a safety issue as well. I assume the Dockside Wizard turns (lock to lock) limit was properly set?
In reading your post I assume you tried all the various gain and manual override settings already from the installation manual?
http://www8.garmin.com/manuals/GHP10MarineAutopilotSystem_InstallationInstructions.pdf
Pages 37 & 38 jump out at me and I assume you tried these adjustments already.....
How about the latest software releases listed in the link below?
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00705-00&cID=228&pID=13192
Bill
 
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