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This may be a silly question to some. I am not anywhere near the boat so I thought I would get some reading done by reading the owners manual. In the manual it says there are two power cords. One for the AC and one for everything else.

My boat has just one (that I know of) and it is on a glendinning reel and bucket system. It is a 125/250v 50a plug.

On to my question. How does this work. Does the 250v cable act as two cables splitting the voltage to boat and AC? Should it only be plugged into 125v?

Normally, I consider myself pretty knowledgeable on this stuff but I can not seem to understand the schematics vs. glendinning manual.
 
The 50 amp cable will run everything. You will have two sides to your electrical panel with breakers on each side.
 
You'll find that you cannot plug the 50A 125/250 plug into a 125volt only outlet...they are different. Also, like Hogan said, the 250 volt cord will run the entire boat (both side of the shore power).
 
Your boat may have been set up with two independent 125V 50A three wire cords, one for the AC and the other for the other panel.
Either as a factory option or owner change those two cords were combined into one cord that has both circuits in the same cord. That single cord is 250V 50A four wire cord. It has two hot, one neutral and one ground wires. Because of phase differences there is never more than 50A in the neutral and ground, if any, even though there might be 50A in each hot.
 
It came from the factory this way and I have not come across any without this feature. It is treat like two separate feeds at the panel. The glendinning is a pleasure although with I get a chance I would like to install a remote control which is standard on some currents boats today. I sure I have the parts in stock to do this if and when I do I let you know how it works out probably under a $100 to complete my concern is keeping it weather tight but this can be down. Give me a call if I can help answer any question I sent you my number.
 
Yes..the new Carvers and Marquis come with the remote...it's awesome, so more bending down or finding the switch.
 
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Originally posted by RamSport47

Yes..the new Carvers and Marquis come with the remote...it's awesome, so more bending down or finding the switch.

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I also like an setup I saw on a Tiara were it latched in the wind up mode until it hit the saftey so all you had to do was hit tap the switch my fear is if it get caught on the dock or something you could have a problem. I guess the remote would be best gives you total control. I find without it it often takes two people for what should be a simply chore. I guess I just convinced myself to do this in the spring.
 
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Originally posted by Audrey II

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Originally posted by RamSport47

Yes..the new Carvers and Marquis come with the remote...it's awesome, so more bending down or finding the switch.

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I also like an setup I saw on a Tiara were it latched in the wind up mode until it hit the saftey so all you had to do was hit tap the switch my fear is if it get caught on the dock or something you could have a problem. I guess the remote would be best gives you total control. I find without it it often takes two people for what should be a simply chore. I guess I just convinced myself to do this in the spring.

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On the newer Carvers, it is an on/off switch also...not a momentary switch.
 
Thanks for the responses everyone. Bruce, that is the answer that I was looking for. It is pretty much what I thought, just needed some affirmation.

Dave - I have not used it yet so really have no experience, but I am all for remote control. I have yet to find an instance that it was not helpful. I was trying to think how one person could stow the cable and I think you verified my thoughts in that it was a two person job. Once disconnected, I would be afraid of it falling in the water or like you said getting hung up on something. Let us know how the install works out.

One other question. Well two actually. Any idea how long your cable is? I know mine is at least 50' as it is strung out to the front of the boat and plugged in. Also, how long do cables last? I am pretty sure mine is original.

I ask because I know that as they age the surface can break down and allow stray current as well as increase resistance. And the longer the cable the more resistance. You may in effect use more electricity than needed with a cable that is longer than needed and old. Not sure on the cost of the cable but I would think it would be preferably to replace it occasionally.
 
Mine is 50' I would assume yours is too. I don't know how much more would fit in the bucket.

Ramsport I cant believe I didn't think of a simply non momentary switch something to consider even with the remote that would be nice. Just have to remember to turn off but I guess the safety would protect it.

John glad you started this thread I now have some work to do.
 
Glad to help Dave. I am just happy there are so many folks here to answer my questions. As I continue reading I am sure there will be more. At the end of February we are going to go spend a week on her and start the moving north process. While we will have a Capt. for the week teaching us as we go I am sure by the time I am done I will have a bazillion questions that I did not think to ask him.
 
All of my friends with cablemasters usually end up buying another cord to leave on the dock at their home dock that runs from the power box to the transom (we are required to bow in and the power is on the main dock). This way all they need to do is pull out 3 or 4 feet of the cord and plug it into the cord laying on the dock.

It keeps their cords inside the boat and looking new. Not exactly the cheapest option but after pulling the cord in by myself all the way from the front of the dock to the transom it was worth the money.
 
I have a 55 gallon bucket in mine, so I could probably hold 500+ feet.

Mine automatically stops if it hits a snag. I don't know why anyone would need a remote, or consider it a two man job. I unplug mine at the dock, step onto the swim platform and flip the switch...
 
Mike does yours stay on or do you have to hold the switch? I use every inch of my 50' cord at my dock it is a lot to reel in and I don't want the cord to fall in the water. If it stayed on or if I had a remote I could walk it in. I also noticed at the end of the season that my safety is wired backwards and it wont reel out if the switch is hit instead of stopping the in motion. I will have to fix this in the spring and either swap out the switch to a latching switch and or install a remote. Either of these things would make it much more manageable for one person.
 
mine stays on both ways, if it senses pressure, it will automatically stop.
 
Dave,
Same here, mine is down/out, up/in, and I do not have to hold the switch, if there is tension it stops. I replace my switch this year as there was corrosion. The switch was $6-8. You have to order it as no one carries them in stock due to the amp capacity and the on/off/on layout. Make sure you get a new water tight cap as well.
 
I'm going to have to check out the wiring I don't know if this is something that was change on the newer models or if there is something wrong with mine. It has work this way since I bought the boat. I have never given it much thought but I do recall being told I could add a remote when they demoed the boat and they showed me this was how it worked but they may have know there was something wrong and just not mentioned it.
 
I installed the remote and it works well. Great when hooking up after coming back to the dock. Being able to control how much line you take out is great.

I recommend it.
 
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