2006 340 sundancer

"For manueverability, you know, this is really tough as every boat with different power packages handles different. It's all a matter of getting used to it. Plus no 2 boats pivot the same, handle the wind the same, track the same, etc."

EXACTLY!!
 
I meant more manuverable at speed. Close quarters I'm sure inboards will be better. I never had any trouble docking the 290 AJ with the twin Bravo IIIs though. The setup on the 290 helps too with independent throttle and transmission controls.
 
Joe,
I am sure my sucking at docking the 290, was my lack of skill, I only had it one season and all my other boats previously were trailer boats. But with that said, the first season with the 34c, and lack of skill still, the 34c was way easier, just saying. In all fairness though it could also of been that I had a bow thruster on the 34c, not that I used it often, but the piece of mind having it there made me more confident.
 
Manuverability at speed, would have to go to IOs. Better performance, more speed, and more options on trimming the boat. With IOs you are stuck with trim tabs, with IOs, you have trim tabs (assuming the boat has them), and then you can tilt the drives. If you go newer, then most likely will have duo props which is even better..
 
I can tell u I sucked docking my 26 dancer with a single I/O.

As for not needing alittle throttle docking the BIG BOY DIESELS . Ill be the first to say I'm the most impatient person in the world. I'll goose the throttles probably 100% of the time to initate the docking procedure. ( moving the momentum from slightly fwd to reverse. ) Just my way.

To plug a bow thrusters. If u want to make the most of ur boating season , they are a great TOOL to make boating more enjoyable.

Rob
 
Ok, so i think we have beaten this one to death. What have we learned from this thread?:

1. Don't try to help a dock neighbor sell his boat, whether inboard or i/o!
2. I/o's suck for docking except for the I/o master.
3. Inboards suck if you hit bottom, an issue for some of us frome time to time (rob?).
4. We all love doing something that sucks, and when not doing it we love talking about something that sucks.
5. In summary, we all like having our things sucked.
6. Next topic, bilge and sump pumps. Which ones suck best? American made, China,
 
Jeff,
u got way to much time on ur hands... Thats funny stuff.

Did we totally hose over this thread.

Rob
 
Matt (BC),
Chill, no harm or foul here, just funny sh$t.
 
Geesh Matt. He was making a joke at the turn his thread took from giving a heads up to his friends boat for sale to the debate of inboards vs. stern drive. Nothing more. I understand your point as well as others points about the drive type. And I found it informative. But I still thought Dani's post was funny as hell.
 
I found Dani-Lu last post very funny as I saw this as making fun of his post being hijacked & he didn’t get pissed like most would have!
As far as this ‘should have been put it in the classified section'- Yes and no- if it’s a LI boat where better to post the info?
 
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Jeff,
u got way to much time on ur hands... Thats funny stuff.

Did we totally hose over this thread.

Rob

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Rob,

Don't worry aout the thread, no harm at all. I juat got back from a business trip to munich and I found it hysterical the direction this thread went in. Too funny!

My next reply will be to boatcrazy....

Jeff
 
BC, physical threats add nothing to this forum
 
" While the twin duo-props were easier to operate than the single OD, there was no comparison to twin inboards. The "pivot point" makes all the difference in the world."

Mike, the pivot point varies from boat to boat. Pivot point, doesnt really concern what propulsion you have. Typically the pivot point on a boat is 1/3 distance from the bow to the aft. So the pivot point with a 40ft boat will be completely different then the pivot point on a 30 footer.
 
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Mike, the pivot point varies from boat to boat. Pivot point, doesnt really concern what propulsion you have. Typically the pivot point on a boat is 1/3 distance from the bow to the aft. So the pivot point with a 40ft boat will be completely different then the pivot point on a 30 footer.

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I’m going to have to respectfully disagree, as I have no desire to meet you to ‘splan it to me’ :D

I think you will find that the basis of each boats pivot point stems from where the props and the prop wash is, as well as the distance apart the prop/wash are.

I/O’s have their props/wash behind the boat and even with the ability to directly (no rudders) change the thrust angle, the pivot point is still behind the A$$ of the boat or the transom itself. Also from my own personal observations, nothing scientific, I/O’s seem to be closer together the most inboards I have seen.

Inboard boats have props/wash under the hull hence moving the pivot point much further to the bow and under the boat. Like an M1, you can turn pivot most Inboards in their own length which is very difficult with I/O’s
 
BC, you are a bit "overboard" on your response to a very funny post. If you can't take the humor of these guys, then perhaps this isn't the forum for you. There was no personal attack, and no veiled threat of violence (except by you).

Please, sit back, take a deep breath and enjoy the banter.
 
Sorry Mike, I am going to disagree with you. Last time I checked, there was nothing funny about trying to help a fellow RO. I can joke all day long, hell I have a dirtier mind then Walter.
 
" the pivot point is still behind the A$$ of the boat or the transom itself."

Andy,
I don't mean to start another arguement here, but are you sure about this statement?
Perhaps we are talking 2 different things. Pivot Point to me, means where the boat will turn if one engine is put in forward and the other in reverse. My 34' Cruiser Yachts with I/O's this was about 3/4 of the way into my cockpit. For my 40' Regal it seems to me a little more forward.

Not sure how a boat can pivot behind the boat itself!

Respectfully submitted,
Dave
 
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.....hell I have a dirtier mind then Walter.

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You just lost all creditability, as this is imposable[:-bigeyes]
 
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