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We are looking at the 28 Mariner, and LOVE the boat. One major issue, is, going from a Montego with a deep vee to the Mariner changes the ride...ALOT. the boat seems to go over every wave...reguardless of size and not cut through it...makes for a ride that seems very abrupt...not hard or slamming...it feels like you are chugging through them...I ask owners of these boats to give me some feedback on their experiences (i could have had it trimmed improperly). Thank you in advance.
 
Hi Kenny, your love for the 28 mariner is understandable.....Ive never seen so much room in a 28 footer, and its got such great lines. My family and I love ours too. As for her sea keeping abilities, I'd have to agree with you. These are not hulls that slice thru a big chop. When it gets rough, I know it. It's not that the boat cant handle it, she just doesnt do it nearly as comfortably as our previous searay with a deep vee. So you give up some rough water capability to get incredible room and stability when conditions are better, or at the dock. As for trim, with the engines in the back and v-drives I use a lot of tab to keep the running angle where I like it. Frankly, that may have been one of the few mistakes carver made on these boats...the tabs could have been bigger. Hope this helps, and good luck!
 
Kenny,

After all of the help you provided me while trying to decide on the 3007 vs 2897, I would be glad to take you out in mine for a ride. Most of my friends are not boat enthusiasts and I am always looking for a reason to go for a ride. I am over at Dock of the bay. My neighbors have one as well and love it as much as I do.

As far as I can say, I really enjoy this boat. What I give up for in ride comfort in heavy chop, I feel it makes up for in comfort, and then some.

I am a new boater and have no reason to be out in rough chop, but if you want to go, let me know! When it is calm and the forecast says calm conditions, I have no problem taking it out solo.

I had to go it alone to Kelleys a few weeks back and found myself in heavy chop once out of the bay. I was scared shi*less for about 3 or 4 minutes and then got it trimmed properly and all was good. Was a great boost to my confidence.

I would also be glad to show you around the boat to see what I have done in regards to improvements.

Let me know!

Jim

PS, what year are you looking at? I like the 88-90 transmission setup better. I really like the 90's galley (they lowered the closet to give a little more counterspace).

With the current economy, my income has decreased significantly and I am finding it difficult to afford the boat and may have mine on the market (extremely hesitantly).
 
The modified V definitely makes the boat ride harder in choppy seas, although the newer models ride a helluva lot better than the older ones do. You will notice the difference after having spent so much time in a deeper V. Still, unless you routinely go out in 4-6 foot seas or above, I wouldn't let that flatter hull bottom worry you much. In anything up to the 2-4' range you'll be fine...

As others have said, the tradeoff is all that room belowdecks...
 
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In anything up to the 2-4' range you'll be fine...

As others have said, the tradeoff is all that room belowdecks...

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If I ever see 2-4' seas in the Mississippi, I know I've run across the wake of a 40' ChrisCraft. [:-eyebrows]
 
Thanks for the feedback guys. We're going to talk more about and decide...we do LOVE our Montego...so it's not a must to get a different boat. Thanks for the offer Jim...we've taken the one we're looking at out...we just have to weigh all of the differences. The boat is in Port Clinton, so it's nice and close...and I know the owners.
 
"If I ever see 2-4' seas in the Mississippi, I know I've run across the wake of a 40' ChrisCraft."

LOL - you've gotta spend some time on "real" waters like Long Island Sound, the Hudson, Lake Champlain, and of course, the Atlantic. Then you'll see what waves are like :) !!!
 
This month we will have owned a 89 28 Mariner for a year having moved up from a cuddy cabin. We boat mostly on Long Island Sound out as far as Block Island. It is a rough ride with waves around 2' and more and means a slower crusing speed. It's safe, just slower. That being said it is also a great boat. Over the winter I replaced some sanitation hoses and they weren't accessible. I found however a few 6" holes and access plates installed added much needed access to 99% of the unaccessible area. The engine room is extremely accessible, v-drives are a bit hidden under the cabin floor, but plenty of hatched to get at them. Stuffing boxes this winter, so we'll see how hard those are to access (they're apparently difficult).

The trim tabs are too small, they are all the way down more than they are in the middle.

We can easily overnight for a weekend or so with four of us. BTW we remove the cushions from the convertible dinette and a queen size air mattress fits perfect - MUCH more comfortable to.

The next boat will be easier riding, but MUCH more expensive, so this is the ideal compromise for now! Still a lot of upgrades to do on this boat.
 
Thanks for everyone's input. We have decided against the Mariner and are going to put an offer in on a 1990 Carver 3157 Montego...it gives us all of the space of the Mariner and then some, plus, the ride and express cruiser layout we are used to and desire. I'll let you all know if our offer is accepted. Again...thanks for your inputs
 
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Thanks for everyone's input. We have decided against the Mariner and are going to put an offer in on a 1990 Carver 3157 Montego...it gives us all of the space of the Mariner and then some, plus, the ride and express cruiser layout we are used to and desire. I'll let you all know if our offer is accepted. Again...thanks for your inputs

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Ken, I think you should just break down and order a new 44 sojurn...looks like a nice vessel!

Jim
 
And just where did you see pictures of that? I thought that was still secret! I saw them only today from when our owner was at Carver about a week ago...yes it is beautiful
 
It was just a small picture in the new launching page of lakeland boating. If I could afford to buy one, I would buy plenty of extra glass panes as it appears to have plenty on the hull sides!

On page 10, there's an interesting picture of a late 80's 28 mariner/Voyager being recovered from a trip below the water line. Ouch! Would hate to see the inside of that one!

Jim
 
Not yet Don...we decided to play it safe and sell ours FIRST!...probably the best way. The 31 has been on the market for a while, I don't think it's going anywhere (I hope)
 
In today's market it seems to take forever to sell a boat!!!
 
a real shame - a lot of boats going to repo in our marina because they won't sell. my retired slip neighbor lost his Silverton to the bank this year (after suffering through his own health issues, and his wife passing last year). I thank my lucky stars I'm payment free in this economic situation.
 
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