48 Sedan Bridge SeaRay

Ignoring who was the pioneer for a moment makers are taking advantage of gullible buyers with their measurement claims. Soon some maker will announce their 72 ' which is actually a 38 with a new molded in high tech feature called a bow sprit.
 
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Originally posted by rommer

A follower? I think not. They have it down to a science. The new puny 650 fly specs state, overall length with extended swim platform, 65' 1". That one inch will most likely make this a 66 footer next season.

The LWL is probably 58' or less.

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I believe you're familiar with the Regal lineup... We can use them as an example. Would you like to tell us about when Regal began their shift to extending model designations? I'm just kidding of course - it's not worth your time. My neighbor has a 402 the same year as my 40 and the 402 predates my boat by several years. The 402 is so much smaller it's not even funny. Back to the original discussion: The "bragging rights" point in regards to the 480DB designation is silly, and it was made by someone who thought it was V-drive boat. Come on now.

Yes, SeaRay has it down to a science, NOW. I didn't say they didn't!
 
They all use funny math in model designation. Silverton wanted to bring the 31C back. By the time it was produced, they called it the 33C which was too close a number to the well established 34C. What did they do? They re-named the 34C, the 36C, also, the 312 Sedan began life as the 29 Sedan. Re-named the 312Sedan Cruiser. Let's not forget the 372 Aft Cabin Motor Yacht. Became the 392 after a few years.
 
Funny thing about the 36C that was a 34 is the LOA is over 40'. Technically you can buy the boat without the swim platform so it is considered an option. Not too many boats out there that are 6' longer then their number.
 
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Originally posted by SLW

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Originally posted by rommer

A follower? I think not. They have it down to a science. The new puny 650 fly specs state, overall length with extended swim platform, 65' 1". That one inch will most likely make this a 66 footer next season.

The LWL is probably 58' or less.

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I believe you're familiar with the Regal lineup... We can use them as an example. Would you like to tell us about when Regal began their shift to extending model designations? I'm just kidding of course - it's not worth your time. My neighbor has a 402 the same year as my 40 and the 402 predates my boat by several years. The 402 is so much smaller it's not even funny. Back to the original discussion: The "bragging rights" point in regards to the 480DB designation is silly, and it was made by someone who thought it was V-drive boat. Come on now.

Yes, SeaRay has it down to a science, NOW. I didn't say they didn't!

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And I've been very vocal about that fact with Regal.

Our last Regal started out as a 37, becoming a 38, when we bought it and was a 40 before it went out of production. I had numerous conversations with Regal Marketing over the years and while I can't divulge the exact conversations my statement above about Sea Ray is spot on.

As Anchor Management points out Silverton played some games with model numbers but the LOA was rarely if ever exceeded.

Our 48 became a 50 and the same hull even a 52 but the LOA is just over 55'

Model number games suck IMO!
 
To get back on topic Wayne, give me a call if you want to be hooked up with someone who is/was very involved with Sea Rays and will give you an unbiased opinion regarding the ride of the 48. We had considered that model a few years ago and his insight was very informative both pro and con.
 
So you acknowledge that other mfr's did it first, but you disagree with SeaRay following them? huh?
 
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Originally posted by SLW

So you acknowledge that other mfr's did it first, but you disagree with SeaRay following them? huh?

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I guess reading isn't one of your strong suits since I clearly said others followed Sea Ray. Who really cares who started it anyway since the consumer is the one getting in the shorts in terms of higher prices for smaller boats.
 
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Originally posted by rommer

I guess reading isn't one of your strong suits since I clearly said others followed Sea Ray. Who really cares who started it anyway since the consumer is the one getting in the shorts in terms of higher prices for smaller boats.

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Rommer, YOU have it backwards! We've already established that manufacturers such as Regal (1995 402 Commodore) and Silverton (late 90's 372 and 392 Motoryacht) were leaders in extending model designations. SeaRay did it later. In fact, the 480DB kept it's designation from it's introduction for the '98 model year until it's completion in 2004. The bulk of the model name extensions occurred in in 2006, which is also when they began to switch to the double-digit convention. The replacement for the 480DB was the 2005 500DB. In 2006, SeaRay did what Silverton and Regal had been doing for about a decade: They added 2 feet to the designation without changing any of the dimensions. The 500DB became the 52DB. The 500DA became the 52DA. The 420, the 44 and so on. For Chrissake, that makes them a "follower", to which you said "I think not"!

Re: caring? I care when a site about boater education has inaccurate posts. This thread begin with valuable input and data, and then was diluted by people who don't know what they're talking about and/or can't get their egos out of the way and admit when they're wrong. Classic BE. ugh.

As for consumers "getting in the shorts"? I'll admit - I have trouble reading that, but I assume you mean that model designations drive the value of a new boat? I'm not sure I agree. Of all the attributes a new boat buyer is looking for: quality, layout, performance, economy, reliability, service, resale value... I would put the decal with numbers on it pretty far down on the list!
 
Gee I forgot that sea ray owners are always right. Not wasting any more time on this.

Wayne, feel free to give me a call if you want the contact info.
 
I used to think Silverton owners were always right and now for some reason I believe it is Searay owners.
 
Searay owners wrong ? ?? NEVER ...

But my lil twat of info... Anyone buying a boat needs to do their homework period. Know what ur buying...

SLW's 100 % right about Searay coming late to the size manipulation game....

Rob
 
We are arguing about which boat builder decided to deceive it's customers first?

All I know is my 56 Post is docked next to a 58 Sedan Bridge and my cockpit ends where the 58's swim platform ends. So how big is a SR 58 really?
 
Measured by the tip of the anchor to the rubrail around the swim platform.... : )

Just saying ....

Rob
 
I guess I have a 59' boat then.

Back in the day a boat was what it was, no playing with numbers.
 
I'm sure you do as an LOA. As all have stated, the number on the side is fairly meaningless and most know this. Who cares who was first or last...they almost all do it. Anybody who is buying a boat should be lookig at many more things first. Quick story....I used to travel with a guy who had the identical boat as mine ecxept a couple years older. They changed the number on the side and he used to pay for two less feet than me. It was an amusing incident every time.
 
funny u say that... That's me ( 44DA ) buddy has a 42DA.... He pays for a 42 and I pay for a 44... one year apart.

My marina used to charge me as a 42.... but then I guess They said FU ... now I get the 44 rate .

all well

Rob
 
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