Bigger Boat suggestions (Trojan 10 meter input)

Scott,

Good luck with your search.

Considering your Latitude, the end of the season and the current market conditions, you might just think about making a really low offer. If the vessel is with a broker he gets paid only if and when she sells. The owner probably won't get another offer until spring, if he's lucky (remember it's a 20 year old boat)

Might be worth a try.

RWS
 
RWs,

Thanks,

I did make a Low offer. I actually made two offers. One with trade and one without. The cash offer was low while the trade offer allowed the owner to likely meet or exceed his asking price, but he still has to sell another boat. I understand that he didn't want to take on the risk of an unknown boat, and hsi counter offer wasn't low enough for me.

So, I am am almost done winterizing my boat and will put it up for sale. I did tell the broker that my original cash offer still stands if he wants to reconsider later. Even if it doesn't go through, there are 16 currently for sale in the norhteast and mid atlantic. (not inclding Don's boat which he sent pictures of. There will be other opportunities.
 
Update,

Well, the seller got back to me and accepted my cash offer. I will be lining up survey and Sea Trial over the next week or so. One concern I have is the fule. The boat has basically been sitting for a year. It was winterized and stabilized last fall. I don't knwo how much fuel is in the tanks, but assuming it's full, will it be ok until next spring? Then I would just start burning it up.
 
I would determine how much fuel is in the tank and take a sufficient supply of STABIL with you and gat it into the tank so it can mix during the sea trial. There are several different schools of thought on leaving the tanks full over the winter and lots of info ont his subject elsewhere on this site.

Congrats on the boat.

RWS
 
Thansk RWS,

I will also be running it up the bay to my marina if the sale goes through. I will have it hauled from there. The haulout will be cheaper as it will be near the storage facility for the winter. I will be storing it at my house in the future, but my current boat is already there and I will let the yard handle winterizing the boat this year. That should give a good ride for more stabilizer to mix.
 
Scott,

Congrats. Good luck with the sea trial. I hope you have great luck, and great fun with your newest family member.

Don
 
Pascal,

I just tried that link and it seems to work well. There are several smaller photos at the bottom which can be clicked on to enlarge.

Here's another link...

http://www.yachtworld.com/core/list...units=Feet&access=Public&listing_id=4384&url=

This is a 10 Meter International Aft Cabin, a very rare and unique vessel. They worked 2 staterooms, 2 full heads complete with standup showers, and accomodations for 8 into a 33' 13' beam vseesl. Of course it was done at the expense of that wonderfully large cockpit, seating area, fishing area and wetbar with the second referigerator/icemaker. The huge standing room and the perimiter windows around the aft cabin
were an additional design feature that added to the uniqueness of the vessel. A few of these were even made with a flybridge!

For me, I prefer the versatility of the express cruiser. One person can handle her easily and when we're out on the boat, it seems that everyone wants to be where the action is. With our isenglass and canvas we can all stay dry in bad weather and warm when we're doing the Christmnas Boat Parade!

Six people overnight is a lot on ANY 33' vessel, imagine 8 !!!!

RWS
 
All,

Just in case anyone is curious (probably not) I've postponed any deal until spring (I hadn't submitted the signed offer sheet yet). No particluar reason from the boat side, but my personal calendar is just too crazy at this point. I had a window this week to get things done but it wasn't feasible. I was starting to feel harried with the things that had to be done and it wasn't worth rushing around for the sake of a good deal. There will be other opportunities. If this boat sells before spring, so be it but I have to make sure I keep my job. :)
 
rws i know the link works... what i meant is go back to your oct 11th post and edit the link to shorten it... it spreads over 4 screen width... this thread is intersting but unreadable !
 
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Originally posted by gardnersf

All,

Just in case anyone is curious (probably not) I've postponed any deal until spring (I hadn't submitted the signed offer sheet yet). No particluar reason from the boat side, but my personal calendar is just too crazy at this point. I had a window this week to get things done but it wasn't feasible. I was starting to feel harried with the things that had to be done and it wasn't worth rushing around for the sake of a good deal. There will be other opportunities. If this boat sells before spring, so be it but I have to make sure I keep my job. :)

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Yup-- I think I may do the same. I'm still convinced that I can locate something, if not on my lake, at least here in Texas--on a freshwater lake.

I'm really salivating over a Forumla, but it's in MI, and it's scheduled to be hauled and stored in a few weeks. I feel like I would be rushed. We'll see what happens.

Thanks for the update. I think we're all interested!

Paul
 
Hi all, (or at least anyone who cares)

I've resurrected this deal. The seller is now interested in doing the trade route with my boat as he will at least pull some money off the table . With boat sales being what they are, I think he is looking to cut his losses.

I had the land portion of the survey done today and the surveyor was pleased overall. There are some fittings that needed rebedded, and a little bit of crazing near the water line just aft of the radar arch. Port side was a little more pronounced than Starboard. The surveyor explained it as a stress point, and something I would want to get addressed within a year or so, but really is not a big deal. Very moderate moisture readings near the crazing and some levels near a few of the rub rail mount points and the swim platform mounts. Other than fuel hoses needing replaced and a few other odds and ends like a sticky through hull to be addressed, we look to be a go for Sea trial and in water portion of the survey in about a week or so. I also need to get through the inspection of my boat as well. I'm sure there will be some give and take on both sides, but things are looking positive. The surveyor stated that the Trojans are definitley a "sleeper" type of boat and really provide a lot of value. (At least as far as boats go :))
 
Hi Scott,

Hope the deal works to your own benefit.

Your surveyor's point regarding the value is point on.

Until about 1993 the Amish in Lancaster made up the production workforce for Trojan.

Thier woodworking talents may ave been one of the reasons the company was one of the last to make the move to fiberglass.

Once you get hands on and into the boat you'll notice some of those additional value items quickly, like the plumbing systems and electrical system and the way all of the wiring is handled.

Also, just the way she's put together in general, with the exception of those 1980's maleron fittings which just don't fit in with the rest of the obvious quality.

Regarding the radar arch, we were tied off and anchored in the middle of the canal when we saw the eye of category four Hurricane Charley in 2004. 4 other boats were sunk on this canal alone, however, other than a few chips in the fiberglass from flying debris, the only real damage we had was to the radar arch. Wood is used in the sides for stregnth and over the years that wood had been exposed to rain water, weakening it. This was not noticed on the original 2001 survey. The winds first came from aft and after the eye passed they came directly from the bow. There was large 1980's style TV antenna that looked like a radar unit on the arch which probably added to the windage, until it was blown off. The arch was still intact but ended up with several cracks near the bottom, close to where it is attached to the boat, and the arch was "loose". All the wood was removed from the arch and replaced with 2 sections of square aluminum tubing, all the way around, which was glassed in. That arch is probably more solid now than when new.

Be sure to check/replace the pencil zincs on the Crusaders.

Good Luck,

RWS
 
Thanks RWS,

I noticed that the arch coudl get some water, but for now it is dry. Teh swim platform has some moisture but is solid as a rock. Teh surveyor said to use rebed the fittinsg and use it until it softens then have it replaced. At this point that will be some time as it is obviously plywood reinforced.

The crazing is down at the waterline, right about where the engines are (A little more aft than your engines as you know) The surveyor suspected it is a pivot point of sorts when the boat is underway an sees stress over time.

I was impressed with the wiring already and how easy access was to most componenets.
 
Scott,

Congrats. I hope it all works out. I'll keep an eye out for you in potters cove. With a little consistent good weather I hope to go in next week. The boating itch has returned from its winter slumber!
 
Thanks Wocket. I hope to wrap up the purchase in about two weeks. Probably try to hit the cove memorial day weekend. We generally use the "Quinn Sea" mooring, right near shell island.
 
Just an update for anyone that cares.

Teh transaction is almost complete. Basically I am trading my boat plus cash for the Troja. This allows the Trojan owner to take cash off the table and sell a smaller boat.

Survey of the Trojan went well. One fiberglass repair to be made in the coming years (gel coat crazing near the port engine) plus rebed some fittings. Decks were in great shape.

Had the Sea Trial yesterday. I was really impressed. The boat was sitting for about 18 months so there were a few gremlins to shake out, but all in a very successful sea trial. I was impressed with the ride and stability and the boat was quieter than I expected. Only item we coudln't get to work was the windlass. Seems to be a wiringconnection issue.

So, next step, the owner of the Trojan will sea trial my boat tomorrow. once thats accepted, we close. Hopefully I will have the boat by Memorial Day.
 
Scott,

Wait until you get out in some rough weather.

That's when you'll really appreciate her design and engineering!

If you ned a wiring schematic, I have one somewhere already scanned that went to a fellow down under.

RWS
 
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