California Boaters in drought stricken areas
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This story has nothing to do with boaters. This post really belongs in NBR as it is more politically motivated than anything. And the story is more about global warming and politics.
That being said, Agriculture accounts for nearly 80% of the water use in CA. Until they change that, nothing that the residential restrictions imposed will do anything to help. Residential us accounts for just 8% of water use. The city of San Jose is using water recalmation (waste water treatment) to water most of its municpal landscape. The same system used by agriculture would cut thier use by 40-60% That would be a significant savings. But the liberals in this state don't want to cut off thier donors in the central valley and down in LA. So they keep sending wate that way. In fact their are wasting good taxpayer money to build more canals to send more down there. And to top it off the environmentalists (more liberals) want to keep the release of fresh water into the delta at the same level or increase it so a few fish and some frogs that live in the brackish water do not lose their habitats.
That being said, Agriculture accounts for nearly 80% of the water use in CA. Until they change that, nothing that the residential restrictions imposed will do anything to help. Residential us accounts for just 8% of water use. The city of San Jose is using water recalmation (waste water treatment) to water most of its municpal landscape. The same system used by agriculture would cut thier use by 40-60% That would be a significant savings. But the liberals in this state don't want to cut off thier donors in the central valley and down in LA. So they keep sending wate that way. In fact their are wasting good taxpayer money to build more canals to send more down there. And to top it off the environmentalists (more liberals) want to keep the release of fresh water into the delta at the same level or increase it so a few fish and some frogs that live in the brackish water do not lose their habitats.
I'm sure there are some California boaters out there who have had an adverse impact on their boating lifestyle due to this extreme drought.
I know for those on the east coast this drought may not seem as important, but for those west coast boaters who's favorite boating waters have been drying up I'm sure it is a very serious issue and I am curious as how these boaters are coping with the drought.
And yes I am also concerned with the other hardships these boaters are facing beyond those strictly related to boating as their overall welfare is, I'm certain, of concern to most of their fellow boaters.
I know for those on the east coast this drought may not seem as important, but for those west coast boaters who's favorite boating waters have been drying up I'm sure it is a very serious issue and I am curious as how these boaters are coping with the drought.
And yes I am also concerned with the other hardships these boaters are facing beyond those strictly related to boating as their overall welfare is, I'm certain, of concern to most of their fellow boaters.
Lake Comanche is at 25% - not sure you can even launch a boat now
Shasta is way down, have not checked the levels yet. Same with Folsom
It is definitely impacting Lake Boaters
as for Agriculture using reclaimed water - where would they get it from? Ag uses 80%, they can't get a 40 to 60% reduction using reclaimed from 20%
Shasta is way down, have not checked the levels yet. Same with Folsom
It is definitely impacting Lake Boaters
as for Agriculture using reclaimed water - where would they get it from? Ag uses 80%, they can't get a 40 to 60% reduction using reclaimed from 20%
Well we boat out of a marina in an adjoining state so driving 250 miles one way is the norm for us, I wonder how many of those boaters in the drought area's would consider moving their boat to an area outside the drought if it would require driving a couple hours just to get to it?
What about the marina's whose lake has essentially dried up, how are they coping with this? Is there any way to get out of your lease if you cannot use your boat there any more?
How many boaters have sold or are thinking of selling their boats because of this drought?
For those who are still boating out of a marina that is so low you can't get to the pumpout station, are the marina,s working on a solution?
Certainly a lot of questions.
What about the marina's whose lake has essentially dried up, how are they coping with this? Is there any way to get out of your lease if you cannot use your boat there any more?
How many boaters have sold or are thinking of selling their boats because of this drought?
For those who are still boating out of a marina that is so low you can't get to the pumpout station, are the marina,s working on a solution?
Certainly a lot of questions.
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Folsom is at 84% as of this mornings news. Shasta is 74% and Trinity 71%. Oroville 64%. We have some more storms coming the next 2-10 days. The problem for folsom and lake south of sac is that there is no snow pack to replenish them so they will be right back where they started by August. The northern lakes will fair a little better and not show signs until sept/oct.
Also on the news this AM, the aquifers that feed northern CA are up about 10% since all the reports that Tribble has been posting came out.
Philbo, you are correct. The central valley feeds a lot of people. However, there is technology available to cut their water use by nearly 50%. The farmers will not spend the money. For a 1/3rd of the cost they can by the Governor and other politicians. Really, all of the municipalities could follow San Jose's lead and re-cycle waste water too. Building the plant is expensive though and nobody is willing to take money from the illegals benefits and use it to build them. Residential use making up only 8% of the water use makes it hard to really have any affect. Even if you mandated they cut their use by 50% you would only save 4% of the available water. The bottle water industry uses 5%. But jobs are tied to that, same as agriculture. Cheaper to buy a politician than move a plant. And then there is the 3% of the water that goes out into the delta (and to the ocean) to keep it brackish so certain species of frogs and fish continue to use it as habitat. Of course seen parts of the American and Sacramento rivers above Sac nearly dry at times would not be good for tourism.
There are literally hundreds of reasons why the water situation exists the way it does. But only one real solution that will make any significant difference is available and that is to stop selling it to the highest bidder.
Also on the news this AM, the aquifers that feed northern CA are up about 10% since all the reports that Tribble has been posting came out.
Philbo, you are correct. The central valley feeds a lot of people. However, there is technology available to cut their water use by nearly 50%. The farmers will not spend the money. For a 1/3rd of the cost they can by the Governor and other politicians. Really, all of the municipalities could follow San Jose's lead and re-cycle waste water too. Building the plant is expensive though and nobody is willing to take money from the illegals benefits and use it to build them. Residential use making up only 8% of the water use makes it hard to really have any affect. Even if you mandated they cut their use by 50% you would only save 4% of the available water. The bottle water industry uses 5%. But jobs are tied to that, same as agriculture. Cheaper to buy a politician than move a plant. And then there is the 3% of the water that goes out into the delta (and to the ocean) to keep it brackish so certain species of frogs and fish continue to use it as habitat. Of course seen parts of the American and Sacramento rivers above Sac nearly dry at times would not be good for tourism.
There are literally hundreds of reasons why the water situation exists the way it does. But only one real solution that will make any significant difference is available and that is to stop selling it to the highest bidder.