Cameras for the boat

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Robski97

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So after a year of testing I came to some conclusions.
1) Arlo cameras are ok but have limited use. ( battery operated ) so that makes them advantageous . They are terrible for security. good for actually going live and viewing. Has motion recording capability. Area of motion is terrible. I have them installed on the boat. at my house and office. They suck for covering anyting other then a narrow doorway. Case in point I have one covering my driveway. Cars pull in and out and 20 % of the time it trips the motion.
2) Dlink cameras . Great camera. Great motion detection. Needs 110 volts. Sends a small text alert or email on motion with a clip of what it recorded. Just keep in mind it will always send emails when motion is detected. They came out with a recorder for their cameras. ITs a worthless POS. It was a good idea having storage capability of events but thir NVR sucks .

so that's my year long update. its all crap unless u buy a real DVR and real corded cameras. THE Dlink is my boat security and does what I need but its very limited. recording . GREAT for live view and pan and tilt.

Rob
 
I have two IP cameras connected to a switch 4 port switch, connected to UBNT bullet and a Air Gateway. All operates on 12volts, motion detection extra.
 
Flir IP or MPX is my choice! Easy to setup and easy to access this is what I have used for the last two years. The big problem is having available internet on the boat.
 
Analog Cameras are "CRAP". The toys you have been playing with are just that "toys". IP cameras and NVRS (recorder), use to be crazy in price, not anymore. 16 port NVR (network recorder) 475.00 4TB hard drive 175.00 the most awesome IP vari-focal cameras with 100 feet of night vision with 0 lux, $145.00 , all includes 3 year manufacturer's warranty. That is the cost, not looking to sell anyone, at all. Just assume a fair mark up and installation. If installing in a home, figure double the equipment cost with mark up. Commercial installations, a tad less for install.

Rob,

What you paid 8 years ago for analog, is now the cost for IP, the bummer is though, you need to rewire.

Walter
 
For the 5v slink cams u can use a 12v USB lighter
Adapter. Just splice in an old mouse cord.
 
Walter in order to display the cameras on a Garmin display you still need to use an analog camera while IP or HD would be nicer I like to have the option to use the cameras in my engine room and on the arch as a backup camera from my helm without adding yet another display. As for analog being crap and having to rewire have you used or seen HD over coax it is a great option for those who have existing coax in place 1.2 megapixel HD cameras are hard to tell the difference until you move up to 3 megapixel. BTW Flir make tri-mode units which can handle IP HD over coax as well as analog they also provide a hosted proxy connection so that no port forwarding is needed allowing me to access my cameras over a Cablevision HotSpot so what you call a toy I call assume! Keep it mind I install many IP systems and they have there place but analog is not dead yet.
 
Analog is dead .... Yes if you want a $65.00 camera and a sub par DVR , then sure, certainly not dead. And in all fairness, the cheap moron customers that by this crap, are just that, morons. I will not install a camera system unless it is IP. I do on to my clients as if they were family, to just sell something, to get a job, is not what we do. If anyone has the opportunity to chat with the client, see the difference, then understand what the police can do with those images, they will by IP. As far as the boat stuff, The equipment there is light years behind technology, so the HD stuff does fill that void.

We use HD analog and DVRS when a client is to cheap to rewire, yes it has its place, but IMHO a huge mistake!
 
Walter I have to laugh when people like yourself make statements like this "Analog is dead .... Yes if you want a $65.00 camera and a sub par DVR" While IP clearly is a higher resolution analog is far from dead! I do work for many Police stations throughout the State of NJ and a few in NY as well all of which are still installing analog cameras cameras in their police cars as well as their interrogation rooms. All of these systems are actively being used for prosecution in the court of law daily. I will be installing systems in two Police stations tomorrow but I guess you know more about this then I. IP is great but it has it's limitation and integration is the biggest issue at this time. I'm the contractor for L-3 ( a huge government contractor) I cover all of NY and NJ and while they are upgrading some of their systems they are going with HD instead of IP at least for the foreseeable feature. The State police has just installed Hd cameras in every car throughout that state. The body worn cameras are however IP then plug into a charging/download docking station. BTW the some of the DVRs I still sale today sell for over $8000 and cameras ranging for $50-$3500. Most of the IP systems I sell are far less money my point is there is a place for different technologies in the market today as long as there is a need I will continue to sell both.
 
Dave,

"there is a place for different technologies in the market today as long as there is a need I will continue to sell both."

That is a very true and fair statement, your example of a police department interrogation room, absolutely no need for IP since it is a controlled environment. Hair Salon place, all interior cameras (we did one today) absolutely no need for IP, once again, controlled environment.

Outside cameras, security around a home, factory, industrial place, I will respectfully argue for the cost difference for IP or analog, it would be crazy not to go IP. When I speak IP, I am talking about many mega pixel cameras, yes, we do have analog mega pixel cameras, but at that point, why not IP? The difference between IP and analog (which I am sure you know) is when you capture a image and blow it up (police or FBI) it does not pixelate (distort). Just the nature of the format (IP)
I exited out of the burglar alarm industry for residential clients a few years after "free alarms" , reason was basic protection was a false sense of protection. I feel now, with the huge drop of equipment costs for IP, lower cabling costs, it is an injustice to recommend or propose analog. Now your police station, my salon, then yes it makes sense.
I hope this clarifies this.

If I was doing a residential home or commercial establishment with outside cameras, I would never do analog, and once I spoke to them, they would never consider analog. Doing a friend of a friends house today, if he did not do IP, I would walk away from the job. I don't want to be responsible or associated with that false sense of security!
 
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