Darn - there goes my wallet in the storm

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kevfra

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Well, this last round of local storms, on the heels of that big blow a couple weeks ago, finished off most of my canvas. Both the cockpit and flybridge basically shot beyond repair. As you know that means I'm looking at a big number. But beyod that, because of the big windy storm a couple weeks back, there is also a line months long for canvas work in the bay area. I hear the delta is in better shape.

Does anybody have recomendations for a more reasonably priced shop than the bandits on the bay?

Another thing I'd like to look at is making the roofs on both decks into hard tops. I never take down the canvas on either, so why not go with something solid? Again - anybody know of someone in this business?

Many thanks!
 
The last time I had canvas work done was about 10 years ago and that was Delta Canvas in Antioch. Excellent work, but I think they went out business several years ago.

I had all of the boat upholstery redone a few years ago by Art's Canvas & Upholstery. He did very good work on that. His shop is located behind Spindrift restaurant on Andrus Island. (916) 777-6898
 
Any prediction of winds over 50kts, ALL of my canvas gets taken off the boat. When I bought the boat, I found a receipt for the canvas and I don't want to spend that kind of money unplanned.

Will your insurance cover it? Here in Florida, 50kt+ winds usually come with a named storm, which triggers windstorm deductable which is higher than the "normal" deductable. The windstorm deductable is just a bit less than the old bill for the canvas.

Good luck!
 
Insurance only covers it if less than a year old, otherwise no coverage. Mine is certainly much older than that. In truth I have gotten good usage from the canvas and in terms of years I can't coplain. It's those darned dollars that make me yell!
 
There is a very good canvas shop in Antioch at the entrance to Laurenzen's Marina. I don't remember the name, but I bet Laurenzen's office could give you the name and number. The guy I really liked on Bethel Island closed up about a year ago. I really John's skill and prices!!!!

As far as changing to a hardtop, check with Dennis Russo at CapriAquarius on Bethel Island. His reputation with fiberglass work is stellar!
 
My boat is housed in a covered slip. I've never had any damage to my boat from a storm or high winds [th]. But if the shed were damaged, I bet the boats inside would also be damaged. I guess I'm lucky that my harbormaster spends the money to maintain his sheds.
 
Liz - I think being in the shed may help a lot because what is a contributing factor is the huge load of rain water collected in the canvas between the steel ribs. This puts a lot of strain on the fabric and helps it shred. Without that things might have been different. This is what makes me think about installing hardtops on both levels.

Charles - I lost some fasteners on my framework but the members themselves are fine so I can reattach. I suggest you avoid our local canvas shop next to the launch ramp as they are flakes and gawdawful expensive. I didn't notice the damage to your boat or neighbor, but I haven't been there lately except when things are blowing hard and everything looks a mess.

By the way the other day at mid-tide I hit hard off H dock in what should have been seven feet of water, and I draw three feet. Reported it to the office but no word back yet - so be careful!
 
Cdr. Toasty,

Yeah, I've had mixed luck with the local canvas place. Convenient, but pricey$$$.

Thanks for the warning re. H dock shallow water - I went to Ayala cove Monday at around a 2 ft. tide, had no trouble, but will be sure to keep a watch.

Charles
 
Call Jared at Altered Canvas. 925-382-1186.
I have seen a lot of work this guy does and it seems to be excellent and his prices are very fair. He seems to be the goto guy here in Discovery Bay. But I do believe he will travel elsewhere as he is out of Antioch.
 
Hey Kevfra:

Lets see if I got this right... You are looking for someone less expensive who isn't busy? Nope, don't know that guy. I do know one guy.... heck, half the people here know the guy.. who does all the canvas work on my boat. Curt Page at West Coast Canvas. He has been doing this for over 25 years, is not cheap, and always way too busy. But he demands good work from his guys, uses the finest materials, and knows his stuff. That is a hard combination to beat.
 
Besides being very busy, Curt may not supervise his workers as well as he should. I know someone who had problems with the work his shop did on the boat. So be forewarned!
 
I have an aft deck cover that's been there longer than I've owned the boat (13+ years.) It got torn this summer and most canvas shops wouldn't touch it, saying I needed a new piece. I also needed new zippers in my bimini sock (the cover that secures my bimini when it's down), and again, most shops weren't interested in repair work. Based on a friend's recommendation, I went to:

Land Or Sea Design & Sewing
127 Loch Lomond Dr, San Rafael, CA 94901
(415) 459-5966

at the Loch Lomond Marina. They were quite willing to do the repair (subject to clear understanding that the cover was old and could fail elsewhere) and quite reasonable in price. Both the cover and the sock nicely survived the high winds earlier this winter. I haven't had them do "new" canvas installations, but I've only heard good things about them.

BTG
 
There is a guy advertising in the San Francisco Craigs List. Does upholstry and canvas.
 
Well... I chatted with my insurance agent and he said this is a legit claim, so he turned it over to my insurance company and they said yes it is but of course subject to depreciation (makes sense and is fair). We will use an estimate from a canvas shop to establish the age of my old canvas as I don't really know. And my hull deductable will come into play as well. But heck if I get a little help I'll be happy! Problem is finding someone available. Using the suggestion above I did find the fellow on Craigslist and he is going to have a look at things. Also called the people at Loch Lomond but no response - and no surprise. Anyway I'll keep you posted on the insurance evaluation as that's probably good information for many of you.
 
I had the craigslist guy (Ray) come out to have a look yesterday, but he said he couldn't give an estimate yet, and wanted to take the remaining canvas. I gave him a sketch with measurements, seems like he should have been able to base at least a guesstimate on that. He also wanted $15 cash for "gas money!" (No problem, just seemed a bit odd.)

I bought a 12 ton pipe bender for $69, so will redo the s/s rails myself.

Land & Sea are pretty busy, but will be by early next week.
 
Appearantly your boat is 25% closer to him than my boat, because he wants me to give him $20 gas money...
 
You could get a good pair of shears, nice seam ripper and a walking foot sewing machine. It would pay for itself on your first canvas job. Sewing canvas isn’t that hard if you take your time and use a good walking foot sewing machine.
 
I ended up buying a 20 ft. lenght of 7/8 stainless tubing, and a pipe bender to replace the frame arch, then got a quote from the local canvas shop that was a little bit more, dut didn't involve moving the boat to Benecia for 2 weeks. Pix at Pix at: http://www.baylinerownersclub.org/gallery/album655 (the last 2 are new.)
 
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