Diesel storage
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Not sure you can just swap.
First question is why did they use UL rated filters?
Is it a cost savings or safety concern?
Second question is GPH as I am sure you don't want to get into a situation where your not getting enough flow.
Third question is filtering power. Mine is 10 micron. The one you posted is 30.
First question is why did they use UL rated filters?
Is it a cost savings or safety concern?
Second question is GPH as I am sure you don't want to get into a situation where your not getting enough flow.
Third question is filtering power. Mine is 10 micron. The one you posted is 30.
Dave Racor elements are available from 2- 30 micron. Racors are more than just straight filters they have a spin feature that is supposed to help remove water. I have no data or experience showing which type is better but I found the racors to be effective.
I do like that pump feature on yours is it capable of suction or just pressure? Can it fill an empty filter? That would be a great feature for ease of use and with the extreme cleanliness required if you have common rail engines.
I had a smaller version of your filter on my gas OB boat and used a clear plastic bottom section. Not as good as the racor and not shielded by the metal bowl though.
I do like that pump feature on yours is it capable of suction or just pressure? Can it fill an empty filter? That would be a great feature for ease of use and with the extreme cleanliness required if you have common rail engines.
I had a smaller version of your filter on my gas OB boat and used a clear plastic bottom section. Not as good as the racor and not shielded by the metal bowl though.
Hello Dave - You have a Racor spin on series head which can take many different filter elements which can be chosen with a bottom clear bowl if desired. Please read this 'cut and paste' on your clear bowl question which you can find in a few places this particular one 'stolen' from the west marine site:
"""ABYC Requirements for Diesel Fuel Filters
Fuel Filters
Recently we learned a disturbing lesson from a very experienced local marine surveyor. It seems that an obscure reference in the ABYC Standards mandates that all fuel filters used on diesel engines withstand a heat requirement if they are mounted in the engine compartment. We started to become more concerned when one of our technical writers, who lives aboard his Catalina 30 sailboat, got a package from his insurance company. It contained a survey for him to fill out, asking among other things, about Dahl and Racor filters with plastic bowls. The insurance company included a disposable camera, and requested photos of the filter. After researching this situation with the folks at the ABYC and at Racor we discovered the following:
ABYC standards for inboard fuel filter installations for gasoline or diesel engines require that filters installed within the engine space must be able to pass a two and one-half minute heat test as defined by ANSI/UL 1105. Unfortunately, Gasoline and diesel filters that meet this requirement are generally equipped with a metal bowl. Filters with plastic sight bowls must be equipped with a metal heat shield to pass the test. Boaters with diesel engines who prefer a filter with a see-thru bowl should select one of the Turbine Series by Racor, which includes the heat shield. Racor spin-on filters (with metal bowls) for diesel installations are available by calling 1-800-BOATING."""
The other more common turbine series of filter such as in the link above can also be had with clear bowls but with a heat shield option that allows them to meet the 'newer' heat specs that ABYC installed. These turbine series filters are available in various sizes (flow rate and filter capacity), You will see them called out in 500 series, 900 and 1,000 series all come with selectable sizes for filter cartridges (2,5,10,20,30, etc microns).
Here is a link describing the various Racor products and the many versions of those same products:
http://www.parker.com/literature/Racor/Racor_Fuel_Filtration_-_Marine_Filtration_Products_-_7501.pdf
So clear bowls in diesels were selected based upon the year of manufacture, the location of the filters themselves in the boat relative to the engine room and the ability to withstand the newer ABYC heat specs. While I have extra heat shields laying around they will not help your series of filter as they will not fit.
Shifting from help mode to the more subjective area of just giving you my opinions/thoughts here you go:
- Clear bowls are really overrated because the visual can often mislead you as to the condition of the filter. Vacuum gages take the subjectivity out of filter condition and make a visual assessment (guess( unnecessary.
- On initial filtration (1st filter after tanks )a lower micron rating is not better and often worse than what the manufacturer recommends.
- Racors are not my first choice of filter as they tend to be costly in acquisition, filter changing and more complicated to service.
I have them but when I have needed/wanted to change in the past I have gone with the Sbmar stuff.
Here is a link to a great site by Tony Athens which will explain more details about fuel filtration.
http://www.sbmar.com/index.php/articles/marine_fuel_filtration_-_the_seaboard_way
Hope this helps
"""ABYC Requirements for Diesel Fuel Filters
Fuel Filters
Recently we learned a disturbing lesson from a very experienced local marine surveyor. It seems that an obscure reference in the ABYC Standards mandates that all fuel filters used on diesel engines withstand a heat requirement if they are mounted in the engine compartment. We started to become more concerned when one of our technical writers, who lives aboard his Catalina 30 sailboat, got a package from his insurance company. It contained a survey for him to fill out, asking among other things, about Dahl and Racor filters with plastic bowls. The insurance company included a disposable camera, and requested photos of the filter. After researching this situation with the folks at the ABYC and at Racor we discovered the following:
ABYC standards for inboard fuel filter installations for gasoline or diesel engines require that filters installed within the engine space must be able to pass a two and one-half minute heat test as defined by ANSI/UL 1105. Unfortunately, Gasoline and diesel filters that meet this requirement are generally equipped with a metal bowl. Filters with plastic sight bowls must be equipped with a metal heat shield to pass the test. Boaters with diesel engines who prefer a filter with a see-thru bowl should select one of the Turbine Series by Racor, which includes the heat shield. Racor spin-on filters (with metal bowls) for diesel installations are available by calling 1-800-BOATING."""
The other more common turbine series of filter such as in the link above can also be had with clear bowls but with a heat shield option that allows them to meet the 'newer' heat specs that ABYC installed. These turbine series filters are available in various sizes (flow rate and filter capacity), You will see them called out in 500 series, 900 and 1,000 series all come with selectable sizes for filter cartridges (2,5,10,20,30, etc microns).
Here is a link describing the various Racor products and the many versions of those same products:
http://www.parker.com/literature/Racor/Racor_Fuel_Filtration_-_Marine_Filtration_Products_-_7501.pdf
So clear bowls in diesels were selected based upon the year of manufacture, the location of the filters themselves in the boat relative to the engine room and the ability to withstand the newer ABYC heat specs. While I have extra heat shields laying around they will not help your series of filter as they will not fit.
Shifting from help mode to the more subjective area of just giving you my opinions/thoughts here you go:
- Clear bowls are really overrated because the visual can often mislead you as to the condition of the filter. Vacuum gages take the subjectivity out of filter condition and make a visual assessment (guess( unnecessary.
- On initial filtration (1st filter after tanks )a lower micron rating is not better and often worse than what the manufacturer recommends.
- Racors are not my first choice of filter as they tend to be costly in acquisition, filter changing and more complicated to service.
I have them but when I have needed/wanted to change in the past I have gone with the Sbmar stuff.
Here is a link to a great site by Tony Athens which will explain more details about fuel filtration.
http://www.sbmar.com/index.php/articles/marine_fuel_filtration_-_the_seaboard_way
Hope this helps