Double braid splicing

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Bob J

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During Sandy episode; one of my 3/4" lines developed a weird opening in the prespliced eye. The internal part exited thru the outer covering. Tried to push it back in but "NO" luck. Gonna have to start from scratch. Can & have done splicing of double braided line; it's amazing how it all comes together. Question is: line appears to measure 3/4" diameter & I have 1/2" fids. Will I be able to do the splice with the smaller fid ? This is like new line that we only used for travel. Bought all 6 lines prespliced with eyes . Anyone know for "sure" if the 1/2" fid will allow me to splice eye loop in the 3/4" line ?
 
You can also do the splicing with a doubled-over piece of coathanger and electrical tape.
 
You'll be able to pass the fid no problem, may have some trouble loading the fid (tape the tail with masking tape, not electrical tape, then pass a few turns of tape around the tail, pusher, and fid.) When I have no other choice than to splice used double braid (it's significantly more difficult than new line), or I'm splicing something 'grabby' like Duraplex, I normally use a smaller fid.

Remember that your measurements will be different if you're using the fid to measure.

Also, depending on which piece pulled out where, you may be able to milk the cover back up and salvage the splice. I wouldn't hoist on it since the transition probably opened up (you'd be able to feel it if it did), but with a mallet and something sturdy to drop the eye on, you may be able to fix it. If you look at Samson's double braid eye splice instructions, you'll see in the last few steps what I'm talking about. If your hands don't hurt - you're doing it wrong.
 
Pretty good link there Capt Bill. I've been using a long hemostat on single braid (smaller diameter) to pull thru. Hey it's fast.
 
Since we're talking about splicing, how hard is splicing a 8 plait to chain? I want to reverse my current anchor rode.

I've done a bunch of three strand splices, and one very ugly double braid. But never tried 8 plait, it looks closer to three strand than double braid in technique.

My big fear is that when in use, an anchor rode splice is out of sight and has no redundancy.
 
If the line was severely stressed during the storm, it may be significantly weakened. Something to keep in mind depending on what you use it for.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions. A fellow boater is offering his 5/8" fid which w/b better than the 1/2" fid I have.
 
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Originally posted by November Charlie

You'll be able to pass the fid no problem, may have some trouble loading the fid (tape the tail with masking tape, not electrical tape, then pass a few turns of tape around the tail, pusher, and fid.) When I have no other choice than to splice used double braid (it's significantly more difficult than new line), or I'm splicing something 'grabby' like Duraplex, I normally use a smaller fid.

Remember that your measurements will be
different if you're using the fid to measure.

Where inner popped out makes no sense at all. Visualize eye loop & at dead center on outside of loop is where it exited. Tried everything but a sledge hammer which might be next. What have I got to lose?
Also, depending on which piece pulled out where, you may be able to milk the cover back up and salvage the splice. I wouldn't hoist on it since the transition probably opened up (you'd be able to feel it if it did), but with a mallet and something sturdy to drop the eye on, you may be able to fix it. If you look at Samson's double braid eye splice instructions, you'll see in the last few steps what I'm talking about. If your hands don't hurt - you're doing it wrong.

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Originally posted by Bob J

Thanks for all the suggestions. A fellow boater is offering his 5/8" fid which w/b better than the 1/2" fid I have.

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If you have both the 'right' sized fix and the next size down, I'd use the proper sized one to make your measurements and the smaller one to actually pass the line in the splice. That'll make things much easier with used line.
 
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