E15 Update
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So how do they exclude boats from it when you won't be able to purchase non "E" gas? I don't know of a single place in Southern NJ where you can purchase gasoline that doesn't have E-10. The same will eventually happen with E-15.
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I tend to agree with you. Better start to prepare for it now. Replace those old fuel lines if you have an old boat. Going to cost you a few bucks if you have one of the old Chris Craft or Bertram with fiberglass tanks.
Most states have outlawed the addition of MTBE to gasoline and most countries have mandated E-5. Your not going to have much choice. (IMO)
Most states have outlawed the addition of MTBE to gasoline and most countries have mandated E-5. Your not going to have much choice. (IMO)
Agree, however the fuel lines are the least of my worries. My Merc engines are under warranty up to e-10. Anything higher and all warranties are null and void. Has the EPA coordinated with engine manufacturers or supply chains to protect the consumer's interest. In a word, NO. The EPA is a nightmare come true.
Gents, In broad terms: according to all of the write ups the E15 will be for vehicles driven on the roads. The model years are up in the air as to which ones will be finally choosen however.
The following is from the Detroit News:
EPA approves E15 for use in ’07 models and newer
David Shepardson / Detroit News Washington Bureau
Detroit — The Environmental Protection Agency approved the use of a higher blend of ethanol for 2007 models and newer — and said it was debating expanding it to older models.
The agency didn’t approve the use of E15 — a blend of 15 percent ethanol and 85 percent gasoline — for use in small engines like those in boats, snowmobiles and lawnmowers, but said it could expand approval to models as old as the 2001 model year.
From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/2010...for+use+in+’07+models+and+newer#ixzz12QhHiSos
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The following is from the Detroit News:
EPA approves E15 for use in ’07 models and newer
David Shepardson / Detroit News Washington Bureau
Detroit — The Environmental Protection Agency approved the use of a higher blend of ethanol for 2007 models and newer — and said it was debating expanding it to older models.
The agency didn’t approve the use of E15 — a blend of 15 percent ethanol and 85 percent gasoline — for use in small engines like those in boats, snowmobiles and lawnmowers, but said it could expand approval to models as old as the 2001 model year.
From The Detroit News: http://www.detnews.com/article/2010...for+use+in+’07+models+and+newer#ixzz12QhHiSos
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Luckily for most of us, very few service stations will carry E-15. Stations usually have two gas tanks, one for regular and one for premium - they mix the two at the pump to make mid-grade. Thus, stations would have to give up either regular or premium in order to sell E-15.
Randy your kidding about the fuel lines I hope. Most if not all fuel lines in older boats have already been upgraded to handle the "corn fuel". Like everone else my new 2007 Mercs expressly forbid using anything above E-10. In fact they actually state the engine will be damaged if any fuel mixture above E-10 is used.
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E15 means a 50% increase in ethonal content. The price of corn is driving food prices up significantly. I don't think E15 is going to happen anytime soon. The only thing that will drive it is a big increase in crude prices.
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No problem, the government will increase the subsidy for ethanol producers.
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NASCAR is going to E-15 next year.
NASCAR vice president of competition Robin Pemberton said some teams already have tested the new fuel. It's too soon to determine how much of a horsepower gain teams noticed, but the fuel mileage effects were minimal, Pemberton said.
"We've had several hundred-mile runs at racetracks, and everything looks to be great as far as performance goes," Pemberton said. "Probably better than we had first anticipated."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101016/ap_on_sp_au_ra_ne/car_nascar_e15_fuel
NASCAR vice president of competition Robin Pemberton said some teams already have tested the new fuel. It's too soon to determine how much of a horsepower gain teams noticed, but the fuel mileage effects were minimal, Pemberton said.
"We've had several hundred-mile runs at racetracks, and everything looks to be great as far as performance goes," Pemberton said. "Probably better than we had first anticipated."
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101016/ap_on_sp_au_ra_ne/car_nascar_e15_fuel
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BMW Racing is involved with the use of ethanol as a fuel. To actually compete they are permitted larger fuel tanks because of the loss of mileage. You know that ain't gonna happen if the "fuel mileage effects were minimal".
Horsepower gains? That's a dynamometer's job. The answer requires no time at all. You are not gonna determine hp on the track.
Horsepower gains? That's a dynamometer's job. The answer requires no time at all. You are not gonna determine hp on the track.
I have sponsored race cars in the past, yes the motors get torn down after every major race. The higher level of Ethanol can have advantages in racing like lowering the cylinder temps some cars even use water injection but we are talking about high compression engines with fuel cell's not low emission boat engines with open vented fuel tanks sitting on the water..