Going to Take a Lot of Helicopters

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https://www.yahoo.com/gma/viking-cruises-engine-failure-off-norway-coast-prompts-220700928--abc-news-topstories.html Do not think you can get them off fast enough using helicopters!
 
Better plan is to get the other engines running.
Jim
 
Some interesting video taken by passengers out there.
 
I don’t understand why these cattle ships go out in such storms in the first place. Not the first time they get in trouble, happened recently on a cruise out of NY where they was damage in injuries. These new floating condos are not the sea worthy liners of the 60s designed for the North Atlantic

It s not much different of an airline sending flights out is dangerous weather the the cattle ship industry seems to get away with it
 
I wonder what the ultimate problem is. I know these things have multiple pods and multiple engines to power them. This vessel was delivered to them in 2017 I read, I wonder what could be so wrong at this point if they are almost abandoning the vessel. The reports are oversimplifying the problem. Taking offf passengers one by one in a storm is very risky.
 
The chopper evac is indeed weird. It is risky business.

According to wiki they have 4 Man generators and two electric motors. Either the house gems can’t be used for emergency propulsion or rheybhad a massive electrical power preventing power to be sent to the motors.
 
they reported losing all 4 main generators. That would seem to be unusual -edit: I take that back.

"The initial mayday was received by the agency at 2 p.m. Saturday local time, a Viking spokesman said. The cruise ship was close to shore and had one engine working and one anchor holding."

got back to port with 900 passengers still onboard
 
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Originally posted by PascalG

The chopper evac is indeed weird. It is risky business.

According to wiki they have 4 Man generators and two electric motors. Either the house gems can’t be used for emergency propulsion or rheybhad a massive electrical power preventing power to be sent to the motors.

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Yeah, but think of the risk trying to launch away ready lifeboats while sitting in the trough, beam-to in big seas. I don’t have any of the first hand info, but I do have enough background in maritime SAR decision making that I’m confident they weighed all options in removing pax.
 
If they had an anchor holding and an engine functioning why take the risk of removing pax via helicopter?
 
maybe all 4 Gens did go down. tons of confusing reports. Hopefully we will get to hear the real story at some point

"The crew was able to restart one of the ship's four engines and the vessel was at anchor about 2 km (1.24 miles) from land and the passengers were considered safe although the evacuation was set to continue throughout the night."
 
I was just watching video of the interior of the ship during the storm. Heavy furniture was sliding across the deck like bumper cars! I can't believe it isn't secured to the deck. A couple of people almost was wiped out by them.

Padraig
 
NC,true helo safer in that case.

I guess it shows how they really thought they were going on the rocks.

Interior. Seems to me the safest place would have been in companion ways were nothing could slide around.
 
What irks me is that this is a two year old ship. I wonder if it will be reported that the engines suffered from fuel contamination induced by heavy seas and water in the tanks.
 
Wow! I was betting on foamed up fuel.

The way I read this it is a poorly designed tank system that cannot tolerate rough water. Yes the levels were on the low side, but they were within spec..
 
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Originally posted by PascalG

NC,true helo safer in that case.

I guess it shows how they really thought they were going on the rocks.

Interior. Seems to me the safest place would have been in companion ways were nothing could slide around.

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I have never been on a cruise ship. Does anyone have know why the furniture isn't secured?
 
I don’t do cattle ships either. I guess they don’t roll until the stabs or propulsion fail ;). At least the piano was secured!!
 
apparently not every piano

"Everything was broken: plates, glasses, furniture," the crew member said, describing scenes in the ship's restaurants and lounges. He said he saw a heavy grand piano go flying upside down inside a lounge. The crew member requested anonymity because he was not authorized to speak publicly.
 
Surprised on a dry sump system a "donkey dic" system is not installed rather than level sensors shutting down the engines. At the very least put in pressure accumulators.
Must be Boeing engineering.
 
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