GPH - F32 Trojan

jav1 .... I am giving serious consideration into purchasing one. I'm actually scheduled to take a closer look / touch / feel tomorrow afternoon. I guess I'll need to send it your way to retro this one. hahaha Take care and thanks again
 
I understand, J. The reason I asked is that I've often thought about doing the same thing, either with a 32' or a 36'. I'm guessing the mods could easily match the purchase priced?
 
J., you've done an incredible amount of work on your boat! As for the cockpit rails, call me a traditionalist, but I think some wood really gives the old girl some warmth.

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We have two F32s at our marina circa 76-78. They are both very well maintained. One has a new SS radar arch (owner is a welder) with rocket launchers, lights, outriggers, etc. The other is very, very meticulously detailed and shows as if new. That one is a very beautiful boat. The gelcoat is immaculate, the teak is glossy, everything is beautiful including the under water lights. One of the best features of this boat is the glass in the salon. Full glass on the rear and ample windows to the sides and forward.

Well kept, these boats are classics. Congrats on the ones here. I especially like the hard top. I'm sure if I printed the pic out and left it on the bar they'd be fighting over who would install the first one!!
 
LSP- good luck today. I hope it's all you hope it will be. If not, don't worry, it's a great time to be a boat buyer. BTW- sorry to hijack your thread.

Bruce, I bought the boat cheap due to age and neglect (around 20k). It was running, barely seaworthy, but structurally sound. The diesel repower alone cost more than the purchase price of the boat- never mind the rest of the project. I think if your going to go right though a boat (including power), you can easily spend double the purchase price of some boats...I know I did. BTW- I love that Ben Franklin quote.

Nancy- A lot of folks think like you do. After living with a lot of teak for several years, I found that I like lower maintenance MORE than I liked the teak. To each his own I guess- but I certainly respect your taste.

Walshie - thanks for the kind words. I know a lot of people shy away from older boats and I can understand that with the very real problems of finanacing, insurance, and the fact that many don't hold up well to age or deffered maintenace. I think it speaks well for the lowly Trojan that so many decent older examples are still around.
 
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Originally posted by jav1

I have no illusions about Trojans "place" in the market. These boats were production - low to mid tier boats. They aren't considered to be in the same league as a Betram or a Hatteras. Having said that, I have seen just about every square inch of this very old girl and I'm impressed with it's construction quality and how it's held up after so long. After more than 30 years, I had not a single blister. The hull, stringers and structural elements are still in great shape. <snip> I think many Trojans represent a super bargain in a market thats already full of bargains.

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Although Bertram actually owned Trojan for a time and the boats were referred to as "Bertram-Trojans" these vessels are certainly not in the same league. That said, the vessels were well built, perhaps more soundly than other production boats and the International series had numerous innovations that were later copied by the industry.

I can identify with JAV's repower comments, however the costs of completely rebuilding the existing 454's in my International with all new oil coolers, heat exchangers, lines & labor was clsoe to the cost of new Crusader 8.1's. My existing shafts were right on the borderline for an upgrade to the 8.1's. Considering that the engines were at the end of thier useful life, and I was going to go with the new Crusader 8.1's & shafts anyway, the ADDITIONAL COST DIFFERENCE between those and the Yanmars was not all that great.

Aside from the decreased operating costs, increase in range & speed (wow, she's a new boat!) the vessel will always be worth THE ADDITIONAL COST DIFFERENCE when it comes time to sell her as compared to just another gasser.

The Trojans are old, old, orphaned boats whose innovations have been out of the limelight for nearly 15 years. They do however represent a tremendous value today for a knowledgable boater.

Consider the replacement cost of what JAV has in a new boat.

Good luck with your search.

RWS
 
J .... thanks again for the help and comments. When I went to the see the broker at the marina on Saturday ... there was a gentleman who chose the traditional look (like Nancy's)...but had diesels installed back in January. I think I got the F32 bug.

Nancy, now that J was kind enough to share a few additional pictures of his pride and joy...what do you say about giving us a few more ... of the tradional look. Thanks again ...
 
LSP, here you go . . . of course my most recent photos are nowhere near this nice . . . we're chasing water leaks on the flybridge.

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Very nice! It's something to be proud of...that's for sure. Take care ....
 
Nancy,

the boat looks beautiful. Not having splashed this year, it's so nice to see yours in the water, especially since it's starting to get cold up here.

LSP-

do tell - how did your closer look go? Diesel F-32's are rare... do you mind sharing what their asking? How was the condition? Is an offer a possibility?
 
Thanks for the nice comments.

J, she's certainly not in the water now! I was sorely tempted to re-launch during our balmy October, though.

Nancy
 
J .... the boat I actually looked at had ford 351's in her....but there was a retired doctor, at the marina, who decided to convert his F32 to diesels and had the switch done back at the beginning of the year. He's had the boat for years and is planning on keeping her for many many more.
 
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