PascalG is kind enough to share his adventure. Of course, we all would not do things exactly as he did. Constuctive commentary is interesting and adds to a pleasant read. However, some of the criticisms seem to be overly harsh.
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Very well said and I totally agree.
Some of the critical comments seemed off base and some just plain wrong.
Pascal, I for one, enjoy the helm cam, trip commentary and information and I hope you keep it up. Every time I follow one of your trips I learn something new.
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Pascal is the Captain ... he runs his boat (or any boat he is Captain of) as he sees fit. Seems to me he has always done a professional and safe job. He has also been kind enough to allow us "aboard" while he is running ... a real treat. Hopefully he will keep the helm cam alive for us on future trips!! Thanks Pascal!!
I thought a bit of it may have been harsh too. More to the point, some of it seemed a bit personally motivated, I'm not sure why.
That said, this has never been a site to come to just get people to agree with you. Folks that come here like Bob did and just wanted others to agree with him and support doing strange, dangerous and just off the wall stuff, did not meet with the blank minded head nodding that most sites provide.
While I like Pascal and have learned to respect him for many years, for me this is one of deciding between two evils. Letting someone I respect have to wade through some unwarranted crud, or fostering an atmosphere where everyone is supposed to blindly agree with everyone else. I like this site because it adheres to what we believe is the truth.
That said, this has never been a site to come to just get people to agree with you. Folks that come here like Bob did and just wanted others to agree with him and support doing strange, dangerous and just off the wall stuff, did not meet with the blank minded head nodding that most sites provide.
While I like Pascal and have learned to respect him for many years, for me this is one of deciding between two evils. Letting someone I respect have to wade through some unwarranted crud, or fostering an atmosphere where everyone is supposed to blindly agree with everyone else. I like this site because it adheres to what we believe is the truth.
Agree with Bliss. Personally I would allow Pascal to deliver my boat and i dont trust many people to do that. His webcam exposes his every move to scrutiny from armchair skippers. Some learn, some yearn and some criticize but it is an extraordinarily generous action.
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it's ok... indeed there are some personal motivations involved from one specific poster anyway, i dont' care... i dont' mind criticism, sometimes you learn something from it, that's the whole point.
I post here to share my experiences, hoping someone will learn from it. and i still learn some things along the way.
I post here to share my experiences, hoping someone will learn from it. and i still learn some things along the way.
I've never been able to figure out how to get the Sandbarhooper streaming video. All I get is a still frame which changes every once in a while. Any pointers? I'm bummed to continually be missing the shared adventures. I for one can't find one thing to be displeased about with Pascal's offerings....just wish I could see more.
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I always read the Pascal helm cam threads, but don't post much in them. They are always a welcome diversion and often a way to learn about things in different area that we may not all boat in.
This issue though does have two sides. On the one hand, if you put the whole thing on the www for the world to see, I guess you should be prepared to take any criticism that goes with it. I, apparently along with others, also noticed what appeared to be a personally driven bias in some of the criticisms levied against Pascal. Who knows, and who cares why.
On the other hand, Pascal has never been shy about getting his point across to others either. So, I guess the sword cuts both ways.
In the end, it is just a bunch of type A personalities having a littel debate, and all is well. We can expect every criticism levied to be "gentle" or "kind" in its delivery - we are too many differen personalities for that.
This issue though does have two sides. On the one hand, if you put the whole thing on the www for the world to see, I guess you should be prepared to take any criticism that goes with it. I, apparently along with others, also noticed what appeared to be a personally driven bias in some of the criticisms levied against Pascal. Who knows, and who cares why.
On the other hand, Pascal has never been shy about getting his point across to others either. So, I guess the sword cuts both ways.
In the end, it is just a bunch of type A personalities having a littel debate, and all is well. We can expect every criticism levied to be "gentle" or "kind" in its delivery - we are too many differen personalities for that.
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Pascal's a pain in the backside and should be sent to New Hampshire for some retraining....
Just kidding...
What are you all talking about?
Learn and let learn...
Just kidding...
What are you all talking about?
Learn and let learn...
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I don't post much in the trip threads but I really enjoy and follow alone. As others have mentioned I watch and take notes to hopefully be used someday. I like the recaps at the end of day. I also like the idiots of the day!
Niles
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My respect to Pascal for a job well done as well as to RO's that were familiar with different areas along the way and offered their suggestions and info to Pascal about those areas.
I know personally that I was glad to have his help when boating in his home area.
Welcome home Pascal.
I know personally that I was glad to have his help when boating in his home area.
Welcome home Pascal.
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Pascal can operate or deliver (or clean!) my boat any time. He is always quick to answer any questions I send him and if he doesn't know the answer, he knows where to send me to get it. I appreciate the boat rides we get to take from the comfort of an armchair. I'm addicted to them and it's the first thing I check every time I come to the site.
So thanks Pascal, I'll be stopping by to see you early next year before we make the hop to Bimini.
So thanks Pascal, I'll be stopping by to see you early next year before we make the hop to Bimini.
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Well all I can say is my comments and criticism are not personal since Pascal and I have never met. Although we did try the last time he was by this way. But unfortunately I had the flu and didn't want to pass it on.
And while I totally disagree with his choice to single hand for hire some one else's boat, I have pointed him toward other boat work as he has me. So professional jealousy is not in play.
Although in the spirit of full dis-closer I'll happily admit that while I too enjoy Pascal's cam journeys, I find it more than a little irksome that he is allowed to link them to his web site promoting his captain/charter services while no one else can do so. But that is a bone I pick from time to time with Les.
My criticism of his single handing of some ones boat while getting paid to do it simply that as a professional in this business it is our duty to do everything we can to ensure the safety of our passengers and the vessel. And no matter how skilled a captain may be, he/she can never be to two places at one time. Period.
So if you choose to ignore that fact you are putting yourself, that vessel and perhaps others around you at risk needlessly.
And I'd be happy to debate that inescapable fact in person with Pascal any time. Preferably over a cold beverage in a nice quiet anchorage some where warm.
If some of you find that harsh criticism, so be it. Just don't expect me to withdraw it.
And while I totally disagree with his choice to single hand for hire some one else's boat, I have pointed him toward other boat work as he has me. So professional jealousy is not in play.
Although in the spirit of full dis-closer I'll happily admit that while I too enjoy Pascal's cam journeys, I find it more than a little irksome that he is allowed to link them to his web site promoting his captain/charter services while no one else can do so. But that is a bone I pick from time to time with Les.
My criticism of his single handing of some ones boat while getting paid to do it simply that as a professional in this business it is our duty to do everything we can to ensure the safety of our passengers and the vessel. And no matter how skilled a captain may be, he/she can never be to two places at one time. Period.
So if you choose to ignore that fact you are putting yourself, that vessel and perhaps others around you at risk needlessly.
And I'd be happy to debate that inescapable fact in person with Pascal any time. Preferably over a cold beverage in a nice quiet anchorage some where warm.
If some of you find that harsh criticism, so be it. Just don't expect me to withdraw it.
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Hey bill, i'm fine with that! you know, last year (or was it last spring) you posted some pictures as I passed by and my guests/crew was on the swim platform which i didnt' know at the time. that's the kind of things i find positive... now, my safety briefing includes "nobody is supposed to go thru the transom gates while underway" and i also keep the transom cam on while underway.
i know we dont' agree about singlehandling but i will be very happy to discuss it over a cold one... you said you're heading out thru the bahamas soon, so will I... I do hope we find a way to "run into each other"! maybe somewhere in the Exumas?
as to promoting, let me reiterate that my posts have nothing to do with promoting anything... i'm not looking for work right so the cam threads are really motivated by sharing the experience and hoping someone learns something. I do hope that should you wish to do the same, it will be seen as acceptable and something benefitial will come out of it.
btw, i almost emailed you when i went up to FLL to get underway on that Hatt a couple of weeks ago, but i was just out of time and really wanted to make St Lucie that same night.
i know we dont' agree about singlehandling but i will be very happy to discuss it over a cold one... you said you're heading out thru the bahamas soon, so will I... I do hope we find a way to "run into each other"! maybe somewhere in the Exumas?
as to promoting, let me reiterate that my posts have nothing to do with promoting anything... i'm not looking for work right so the cam threads are really motivated by sharing the experience and hoping someone learns something. I do hope that should you wish to do the same, it will be seen as acceptable and something benefitial will come out of it.
btw, i almost emailed you when i went up to FLL to get underway on that Hatt a couple of weeks ago, but i was just out of time and really wanted to make St Lucie that same night.