If you have a mortgage you cant even cash the insurance check. Its made out to you and the bank. With big claims the banks only dole out money in percentages and inspect the property along the way. There will be tragic endings. Its heartbreaking .
High Tide
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I had 8 inches of water in the lower level. Everything was DONE fully on Dec 18th, I spent the day ripping carpet.
This time it came up from the ground not from the canal.
There isnt enough xanax in the world to calm me down..
This time it came up from the ground not from the canal.
There isnt enough xanax in the world to calm me down..
My friend who bought my old house in Copiague........had 4' of water in his basement that came from the canal and
the catch basins.....he only lived there for 3 months. I was there 20 years.....never had a drop in the basement........... GO FIGURE
the catch basins.....he only lived there for 3 months. I was there 20 years.....never had a drop in the basement........... GO FIGURE
I'm sorry to hear. It's so frustrating fixing our stuff only to have it get ruined again or wonder when it will.
The tide is still higher then it should be with 3 1/2 hours to go. If you need a hand with anything let me know.
Billy K.
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Hi!
We are on a full moon coinciding with strong storms off the coast with steady high winds out of the ENE.
Sound familiar? Think back to Sandy.
There have been a few studies conducted by professionals at Stony Brook Univ., The Cornell Cooperative, NWS, The National Meteorological Surveys Association, and a few other highly regarded organizations.
At worst, the breach at "Old Inlet" has shown .06 inches of a rise in tides since Sandy.
Here is the quote form the National Park Service Report:
"Monitoring so far shows that since Hurrricane Sandy, tide levels recorded at Bellport have returned to pre-Sandy conditions."
That can be read in full at National Park Service.
Keep in mind that we all were taken aback by the destruction and damage caused by this biatch of a storm, and psychologically are more sensitive to any conditions not normally given a second notice, and perceive these higher tides as not normal, even though they are for this time of year, with prevailing northeasterlies.
By no means do I intend to completely allay anyone's fears, as it is very important to stay alert and react, something that we will find should be more prevalent as a result of Sandy.
Just MHO, combined with some actual facts.
All the best to everyone in the coming New Year.
Thanks Billy, I appreciate the offer.
A lot of ROs on the site have called me, I just havent really been up to talking to anyone, hence my lack of posting on the site.
With time itll get better, but it sure does take a toll on you.
Happy New Year.
A lot of ROs on the site have called me, I just havent really been up to talking to anyone, hence my lack of posting on the site.
With time itll get better, but it sure does take a toll on you.
Happy New Year.
The wind blew from the west all week, sometimes over thirty mph. This mornings high tides were over the dock in Sayville. I don't recall this many high tides in such a short period of time. Everything I read about the breach says it has nothing to do with it. I don't know what to think.
Billy K.
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Well if you can read thru all this, they say breach is causing higher tides:
http://po.msrc.sunysb.edu/GSB/
Currently, the tidal range for this same area is about 0.3 m but with Old Inlet open the tidal range for the central Bay increased to about 0.5 m throughout the central portion of the Bay, somewhat less immediately west of Howells Point while in Bellport Bay the tidal range increased to about 0.7 m. The saddle point in relative response just west of Howells Point (at 40 km) perhaps indicates some sort of interaction between the tidal forcing originating at Old Inlet and that from Fire Island Inlet. Between Seaford and Johns Inlet (-8 to -16 km) there is very little change in tidal range but there is a relative increase again in the channel north of Atlantic Beach and Long Beach.
http://po.msrc.sunysb.edu/GSB/
Currently, the tidal range for this same area is about 0.3 m but with Old Inlet open the tidal range for the central Bay increased to about 0.5 m throughout the central portion of the Bay, somewhat less immediately west of Howells Point while in Bellport Bay the tidal range increased to about 0.7 m. The saddle point in relative response just west of Howells Point (at 40 km) perhaps indicates some sort of interaction between the tidal forcing originating at Old Inlet and that from Fire Island Inlet. Between Seaford and Johns Inlet (-8 to -16 km) there is very little change in tidal range but there is a relative increase again in the channel north of Atlantic Beach and Long Beach.
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Another article about flooding in Lindenhurst from higher tides.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02...ooding-continues-on-long-islands-south-shore/
Interesting, that the town says they will add sewer flap gates. That was my idea 10 years ago and someone told me they don't work becuase of debris. But makes sense if you can have some sort of check valve on sewer pipe to stop bay water from running up through sewers. That is what happens on East Shore every high tide.
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02...ooding-continues-on-long-islands-south-shore/
Interesting, that the town says they will add sewer flap gates. That was my idea 10 years ago and someone told me they don't work becuase of debris. But makes sense if you can have some sort of check valve on sewer pipe to stop bay water from running up through sewers. That is what happens on East Shore every high tide.
I've read a few articles on the flooding issues, some due to the breach and others attribute it to new weather patterns etc. As we've now gotten very serious about searching for a home on the water there are some things I've seen. Prices are not drastically lower. They came down a bit, but the land still has value and anything that was priced under market was scooped up really quic in an "all-cash" deal by an investor or builder.
The biggest concerns about flooding are the elevation. Some of the newer houses are built to FEMA standards, such as 15' above mean high tide for the last 100 years, or a certain level above BFE (base flood elevation) They also have all the systems elevated, such as the A/C condensers bolted on to a platform 4' off the ground.
Also, many of the towns are no longer issuing permits for basements to be built. This does limit the amount of space/storage a house has, but, the obviously feel that the risk of a basement flooding is high.
I've seen a variety homes, and all I'll say is, we're looking at something as high as possible. Even if not on the water, many people got flooded as they had lower elevations.
The biggest concerns about flooding are the elevation. Some of the newer houses are built to FEMA standards, such as 15' above mean high tide for the last 100 years, or a certain level above BFE (base flood elevation) They also have all the systems elevated, such as the A/C condensers bolted on to a platform 4' off the ground.
Also, many of the towns are no longer issuing permits for basements to be built. This does limit the amount of space/storage a house has, but, the obviously feel that the risk of a basement flooding is high.
I've seen a variety homes, and all I'll say is, we're looking at something as high as possible. Even if not on the water, many people got flooded as they had lower elevations.
Crossbay blvd has flood gates / flaps on the all the road run off. They dont close fully . Nor do they open fully. The water pressure is what closes them . Also water pressure is what opens them when it rains . Between the debris and body parts its not a good thing for queens .
Rob
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I have one of those storm drains on my bulkhead, and it looks to me like putting a flap or chack valve type device would help. When the tide gets really high the water goes through the drain and comes up in to the street through the sewer drain. In the past I've really only seen the problem in the early fall, but it has continued this year through the winter. That leads me to believe that the damage to the dune system has to be repaired too.
Another factor looks to be bulkheads that are in bad shape. I see water coming up in to the street from those too. Unfortunately those properties also tend to have a lot of garbage and debris on them so when they flood the stuff often winds up floating in the canal.
Another factor looks to be bulkheads that are in bad shape. I see water coming up in to the street from those too. Unfortunately those properties also tend to have a lot of garbage and debris on them so when they flood the stuff often winds up floating in the canal.
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When I was in Austrialia they had flaps and these huge bags that were like screens. Every day at low tide a cleanup crew would come and empty the bag if it was full. Obviously not a fun job, but this is what taxes are for. Perhaps if the the government officials took 1 less free lunch each week we could afford something like this!
Islip installed inline check valves on my street and they work very well. The maintenance will be the key. The flapper valves do not work. I have seen several variations over the years and they have never worked.When the tide is coming up on a rough or windy day the tidal action causes the flaps to open and close. They never seal. They might work in a dead calm.
If a heavy sustained wind is from the east alot of water will be piling up in the western bay from the additional water from the breach.
If a heavy sustained wind is from the east alot of water will be piling up in the western bay from the additional water from the breach.