How to properly tie up to pilings

Finger pieces are not needed to tie the boat...

Backing in a transient slip which only has a pair of piling at the entrance, I back in just enough for the boat to stay between the pilings and so that the widest part of the boat is next to the pilings. We pass a line on each piling and use that as a spring. Then we back in , secure the crossed stern lines to keep e boat centered and last a couple of bow lines.

I always find it funny to see transients coming in and tie their stern first, then bow as it usually results in some mad dashes back and forth to prevent the boat from hitting the dock. Same result if you tie bow lines first, it doesn't prevent the boat from backing into the dock unless the boat is smaller than the slip which is usually rare.
 
I'm going to add my 2 cents to the above comments. I'm not sure if what I have to say is worth 2 cents, but here goes:

Bluetooth headsets:
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I simply called her cell while she was on the bow. Both phones stayed in the cockpit so there was no danger of losing them and it worked perfectly.





Did you try that when we were all at Worton Creek with no cell service? :-)
The real marine headphones are the things to get. Too many places, even on the Chesapeake, are lacking in cell service (especially anchorages). We've used the Eartec units for years. It's nice to be able to have a private conversation when docking (yes, you can even call each other names and keep the "show" private - although it does freak out dock hands at times :-).

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Also in cases like you are describing you can cleat your lines off to the boat and then loop the lines around the pilings and them lead them back to the cleat on the boat. That way when it comes time to leave you just release one end of the line and pull it back around the piling to you.





An excellent trick, especially for short stays.

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Bowline loops for the bow pilings are good because if someone puts a line over yours you can untie the knot without fighting his lines. A large loop can usually be put over a tall pole using a boat pole.





Proper etiquette is to "dip" your lines I believe, but that's a very rare thing to see people do. It also takes extra effort.

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I always find it funny to see transients coming in and tie their stern first, then bow as it usually results in some mad dashes back and forth to prevent the boat from hitting the dock. Same result if you tie bow lines first, it doesn't prevent the boat from backing into the dock unless the boat is smaller than the slip which is usually rare.





Watching people dock can be so much fun! I have friends who have RV's and the same thing goes on at RV parks, but they're even harsher. They don't stop watching just at the RV being put on it's pad, but they keep watching to see if the "crew" knows how to hook up water, waste, power, etc. Harsh! :-)

Ron, I do not have the mileage that Pascal and Capt. Bill have under me, but I've been all over the Chesapeake, to the Abacos a few times, and down the SE Coast of Florida quite a number of times. It all depends on the situation, slip layout, current, wind, etc. We prefer to stern-in to any slip, but have gone bow-first when necessary. Do you have twin engines and/or a thruster? How your boats handles can really influence how you dock. When we stern in with non-floating piers I stay at the helm and maneuver the boat in the slip so my wife can get her lines on the forward pilings. Then I worry about the stern lines as with my props 10 feet apart I have great maneuverability. I personally prefer dock hands stay away as they are not in on the conversation my wife and I are having and keep trying to grab my lines. I usually try and ask them to be patient. Experienced ones figure out pretty quickly to just wait for the tip :-)

One last comment: I prefer smaller slips to larger ones, especially if I'm by myself. My beam is 10', so a 12' slip is great as once I'm between the pilings I'm not going anywhere. Even with the two of us on the boat it can be a real challenge to get tied up in a larger slip, especially with wind or current. Often we have to specify we want a smaller slip as marinas are so used to people wanting the largest slips they have available.
 
Good point Kurt. I had not considered lack of cellular availability.
 
Remember to factor the tide into the equation when setting lines. You don't want to tie up tight at high or low tide and be screwed when the tide is the opposite.
 
Good point about doubling the lines, I usually do that in transient situations so we can untie from the boat.

What I always do when I run the boat with Naomi is talk about the line sequence before coming in. We use numbers for the lines, 1 to 4 from bow to stern so the sequence is often 2143 when tying alongside or 3412 if backing in a slip. Easier to remember. After each line Is secured especially the spring, she gives me a signal with the nr and a thumbs up since I can't hear her from the enclosed skylounge.this is especially important with the spring so that I know I can use it if needed

The only time we ve had issue is when there is a dock hand who doesn't follow directions and doesn't secure the line where we ve planned. Or who thinks he is superman and can wrestle a 70 footer by myself. Over all I almost prefer not having dockside help...
 
Yes dipping lines is good but I rarely see it done and is difficult if pole top is far above the existing line. IMO dipping May be used at some clubs but is theoretical otherwise. More often the next guy in uses granny knots on top of my line. The bowline loop may always be untied.
 
Thanks everyone. For some reason, after several years, MS Outlook now thinks messages from this site are "junk" mail and I don't get them.

It seem like looping the lines around the pilings and back to the boat might work best for one or two day stays at least. Given a choice, I would take a T head or facedock.
 
Ron,

In my personal experiences, T-heads go pretty quickly as they're usually reserved for larger vessels that can't fit in a slip and are usually more money on busy/holiday weekends. Getting into a slip isn't a bid deal. Heck, non-floating piers give you two wonderful pilings to pivot on. "DON'T BE AFRAID OF THE PILINGS!" :-)
 
They are making it too complicated. Leave a bow line on one piling, a bow line and spring line on the other piling. A 6" stick on the pilings to hang the lines on. Lines on the dock preferably with snap hooks and a stick or nail for the hook. Back in. From the swim platform, grab and snap the stern lines, crossed. You are not going anywhere. Go forward and do the bow and spring lines. Leave a piece of yarn or dye mark for the length of the bow lines. A loop for the spring line.

Tip. If you can't back close enough to the dock, attache a stick to the dock that swings out horizontally. Leave a stern line on the end of the stick so itis a foot closer to you. Push away if when done.
 
He is asking the question as a transient boater.

"So my question is, as a transient, how do I get my lines on the pilings when entering and off when leaving? Which end should be on the piling and how should it be secured?"

So he would have no permeant lines to use.

By the way, what do the snap hooks on the stern lines you meantion snap on to on your boat?
 
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Originally posted by Andy65

They are making it too complicated. Leave a bow line on one piling, a bow line and spring line on the other piling. A 6" stick on the pilings to hang the lines on. Lines on the dock preferably with snap hooks and a stick or nail for the hook. Back in. From the swim platform, grab and snap the stern lines, crossed. You are not going anywhere. Go forward and do the bow and spring lines. Leave a piece of yarn or dye mark for the length of the bow lines. A loop for the spring line.

Tip. If you can't back close enough to the dock, attache a stick to the dock that swings out horizontally. Leave a stern line on the end of the stick so itis a foot closer to you. Push away if when done.






Stern lines should not be secured first unless you are sure wind or current is pushing the boat away from the dock.

Spring lines first so the boat doesn't hit the dock.

I set my springs so the boat can't touch the dock, yet can come close enough for me to reach the stern lines from the platform.
 
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