Jay Leno weighs in on Renewable Fuel Mandate

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Boaters are not the only ones suffering under the ethanol mandate:

http://autoweek.com/article/car-life/jay-leno-hates-ethanol

CAN'T WE JUST GET RID OF ETHANOL?

There have been a lot of old-car fires lately. I went through the '70s, the '80s and most of the '90s without ever having read much about car fires. Suddenly, they are happening all over the place. Here's one reason: The ethanol in modern gasoline-about 10 percent in many states-is so corrosive, it eats through either the fuel-pump diaphragm, old rubber fuel lines or a pot metal part, then leaks out on a hot engine … and ka-bloooooie!!!

As someone who collects old cars, and keeps them up religiously, I am now replacing fuel-pressure regulators every 12 to 18 months. New cars are equipped with fuel lines that are resistant to ethanol damage, but with older cars, the worst can happen-you're going down the road, and suddenly your car is on fire.

There's more. I find that gasoline, which used to last about a year and a half or two years, is pretty much done after a month or so these days. If I run a car from the teens or '20s and fill it up with modern fuel, then it sits for more than two months, I often can't get it to start.

Ethanol will absorb water from ambient air. In a modern vehicle, with a sealed fuel system, ethanol fuel has a harder time picking up water from the air. But in a vintage car, the water content of fuel can rise, causing corrosion and inhibiting combustion.

Jay Leno engine
Ethanol is a solvent that can loosen the sludge, varnish and dirt that accumulate in a fuel tank. That mixture can clog fuel lines and block carburetor jets.
PHOTO BY AUTOWEEK
It gets worse. Ethanol is a solvent that can loosen the sludge, varnish and dirt that accumulate in a fuel tank. That mixture can clog fuel lines and block carburetor jets.

Blame the Renewable Fuel Standard. This government-mandated rule requires certain amounts of ethanol and other biofuels be blended with gasoline and diesel fuel. But when Congress first passed RFS as part of the Energy Policy Act in 2005, our demand for energy was increasing. Today, it's the opposite. Total demand for fuel has decreased thanks to more-efficient vehicles, more hybrids and increased environmental awareness. The EPA is set to release the 2015 standard in June. Meanwhile, some legislators are pushing to reform or eliminate the Renewable Fuel Standard entirely.

I just don't see the need for ethanol. I understand the theory-these giant agri-business companies can process corn, add the resulting blend to gasoline and we'll be using and importing less gasoline. But they say this diversion of the corn supply is negatively affecting food prices, and the ethanol-spiked gas we're forced to buy is really awful.

The big growers of corn have sold us a bill of goods. Some people are making a lot of money because of ethanol. But as they divert production from food to fuel, food prices inevitably will rise. Now, if you don't mind paying $10 for a tortilla ...

Jay Leno restores 1972 Mercedes Benz 300 SEL for garageCAR LIFE Jay Leno restores 1972 Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL for garageComedian and car guy Jay Leno lets us back into his garage this week to look at his fully restored 1972 Mercedes-Benz 300 SEL 6.3. Leno was going to customize the 300 SEL by adding the 563-hp, ...
Last week, I went to start up one of my Duesenbergs. When I pulled out of the spot where it had been parked for about a month, I saw a huge pool of gas. I looked at it while it was running and saw gas just pouring out. “OK,
I've got to buy another fuel regulator." I pulled it out and opened it up. The fiber diaphragm was eaten right through. Should manufacturers make diaphragms for old cars out of modern materials like Viton or Teflon? Yes, they should, but not all of them do. Consequently, your chances of a fire remain.

Here's another problem: When you have vehicles with fuel cells in their gas tanks, ethanol tends to eat the coating out of the fuel cell. If you have an old motorcycle and redo the fuel tank, the first thing you do is seal the tank with some sealant. It's generally a cream or a gray color, and it looks like you painted the inside of the tank. On a lot of my bikes now, I'll open the gas tank and I'll go in with a long set of tweezers. I'm pulling out sheets of this coating. Really, it comes out in 6-inch strips.

The ethanol is just eating it up and clogging the fuel pump because it'll move around as a sheet of material and block the opening. With cars like my McLaren F1, if I buy a 55-gallon drum of VP racing gas, the fuel cell will last twice as long.

Jay Leno Fuel Regulator
The fiber diaphragm of one of Leno's Duesenbergs was eaten right through.
PHOTO BY AUTOWEEK
It's time for us as automobile enthusiasts to dig in our heels and start writing to our congressmen and senators about the Renewable Fuel Standard, or we'll be forced to use even more ethanol. Most people assume, “Oh, that'll never happen. They'll never do that." Remember prohibition? In 1920, all the saloons were closed. It took until 1933 before legal liquor came back.

Most people don't really look at what goes into their car. Obviously, the days of high-octane gas like Sunoco 260 are long gone. Those of us with older vehicles are the ones who end up paying the price. The car manufacturers don't care. They don't mind if your vintage car burns up or breaks down. They want to sell you a new one. It's hard for enthusiasts. We really have nowhere to go.

So write those letters, but I also suggest you drain and clean your old car's fuel tank, use a quality fuel-tank sealer that's impervious to ethanol, replace fuel filters, keep all the screens clear and use a fuel stabilizer (added to a full fuel tank), if your car is to be stored for the winter season.

Oh, and keep a fire extinguisher handy.
 
Yeah! And I pay a bunch extra for NonE gas for my boat, 28 years old with a 29 year old outboard, and all my lawn stuff. Beats replacing all the fuel lines, especially on the lawn stuff, every 2 or 3 years. Ethanol is good stuff. If it's in a glass with ice cubes.
 
and the thing I've been saying, and most people don't recognize, Corn is the preferred feed of our food animals. When it costs more to feed them, it costs more at the grocery store to feed us.
 
The only politician who didn't pander to corn growers in Iowa recently was Cruz; it ain't looking good for the repeal of the ethanol mandate..
 
There are a number of brave members of congress besides Cruze who have signed on to a bill, but the corn lobby and the enviro's will probably prevail.

The biggest obstacle is the MSM and the fact that few know what the government has imposed on us.
The subsidized renewable fuel lobby is huge and powerful and has a big microphone. Fortunately the technology is weak and has a track record of failures which cost the taxpayers but prove the technology is not viable to replace fossil fuels.

http://thehill.com/regulation/energy-environment/192978-bipartisan-push-imperils-ethanol-mandate
 
There are a number of brave members of congress besides Cruze who have signed on to a bill, but the corn lobby and the enviro's will probably prevail.

The biggest obstacle is the MSM and the fact that few know what the government has imposed on us.
The subsidized renewable fuel lobby is huge and powerful and has a big microphone. Fortunately the technology is weak and has a track record of failures which cost the taxpayers but prove the technology is not viable to replace fossil fuels.

http://thehill.com/regulation/energy-environment/192978-bipartisan-push-imperils-ethanol-mandate
 
Even the tree huggers are saying "Whoops". It costs more to produce a gallon of ethanol than it saves. It pollutes more in production than it cuts.
 
Well, there is good news out there. Hopefully, the bill will gain traction and we'll be rid of this awful mess.
 
The EPA has been stonewalling the Renewable Fuel mandate for years.
The reason is that the mandated fuels are not available, yet the EPA refuses to correct the amount of cellulosic ethanol required by fuel blenders. The fuel blenders are fined for not blending unavailable fuel!
The courts have criticized the EPA but they also ignore the court.

http://www.epa.gov/ogc/NOIdocuments/APINOI12152014.pdf

"EPA's pattern of repeated delays in promulgating the annual RFS mandates ( gasoline) is set forth in the table
below:
EPA Failed to Meet CAA Statutory Deadline to Determine:
Renewable Volume Obligations Biomass-

Year Number of Days Delayed:* Number of Days Delayed:*
2010 116 --
2011 9 --
2012 40 --
2013 258
2014 380+
2015 15+
*Determined using the date of publication of the applicable final rule in the Federal Register.
 
We have seen an increase of post-crash fires due to ethanol too.

Unless you sell corn, there is no sane reason to be blending it in our gasoline.
 
Locally the best "street legal" non-ethanol gas I can buy is 90 octane. I can get Sunoco 110 octane leaded "not street legal" racing fuel, but the dealer can not put it directly in my car. I am forced to to buy it, bring it home, and then transfer some to my car. The cost for 12 gals is $100+ and I need to mix 4 gals to 16 gals of the 90 octane. My engine has a 11:1 compression ratio and I get dieseling / engine run-on without the higher octane blended in.
 
Despite all the problems ethanol has caused. presidential candidates must still kiss a$$ in Iowa before going anywhere else.
 
The oil industry has a surplus so you would think getting rid of ethanol would become a priority for them. I would much rather have candidates spending time in oil states than Iowa.
 
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Originally posted by pdecat

The oil industry has a surplus so you would think getting rid of ethanol would become a priority for them. I would much rather have candidates spending time in oil states than Iowa.






Bruce,

ROFLMAO!!!

Do you honestly think they care what you want.
 
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