Mobile Mechanic

Cats Meow

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Help! Anyone know of a good mobile mechanic that would come to our slip and check out our boat if we can't figure out what is wrong. It is making my husband crazy! We are going to tackle it again this weekend and if issue is not resolved it's time to bite the bullet. Any recommendations?

Thanks, Cathy
 
Cath,
It might help if you told us where the boat is and what's wrong.
 
This is the problems we posted on the "Engines" section:

The problem started over a month ago. Could not go over 2000 RPM's without engine cutting out and trying to stall. Problem worsened to the point of having to be towed back to our slip. Put it in gear it would die like it was starved for fuel. Replaced old Rochester with new Holley replacement w/elec choke. We had already planned on doing this anyway. Started boat up at dock and ran beautiful. No hesitation up to 4000 RPM and idled wonderful. Took her out of slip for test run and gave her some gas and same thing happened. We luckily idled back to dock. We changed water/fuel separator and a new ignition coil. Rotor/cap looks good. Didn't pull the points or condenser. Removed fuel pump and gas comes out by manually pumping it. We are at a loss. Any suggestions? 1987 Larson 25' 5.7 OMC w/OMC outdrive. Now also hearing a ticking noise from vicinity of fuel tank that eventually goes away. Wasn't there before

We are berthed at "The Outrigger" by Brannon State Part.
 
Could be a fuel problem. There is an ant-siphon valve on the fuel tank in the fitting where your fuel line connects. Assuming your tank is accessible, remove and replace the A-S with a new one or with a shutoff fitting. Another fuel system possibility is a clogge thru-hull fitting for the overflow linr from the tank. Wasps etc, can builda nest in there and block airflowA, Easy test is to run the motor with the gas cap off or very loose so the o-ring is not seated. -- Warren
 
I can't recommend any mechanic, but I have some suggestions as to how to find the problem.

It sounds like a fuel delivery problem to me. I would guess that either the fuel pump is bad or there is an air leak between the pump and the gas. Note that I said "gas" and not "Tank" as it is possible the the leak is inside the tank. More on that later...

If it was me, I would probably start by just replacing the fuel pump. They are a mechanical device that gets wear and tear so they do eventually fail.

If the new fuel pump doesn't fix the problem then I would run an experiment to eliminate the remainder of the fuel system. Get yourself a small portable tank, like an outboard motor would use. It will require that you put a hose barb fitting on the fuel pump so that you can connect the portable tank to your engine. Take it for a quick test drive. If the problem is still there, then you can eliminate the fuel tank, lines, filters, etc.

If it works just fine off the portable tank then start investigating your fuel delivery system very carefully.

I would replace any rubber hose in the system. The hose could have cracked, allowing a small air leak to develop. If the hose was above the level of the gas in the tank then gas would not leak out but enough air could leak in so that the engine was starved for fuel at higher RPMs.

Check your fuel filters/ water separators carefully. If they are the spin on type make sure that the gasket/O-ring hasn't been damaged or lost. Again, you are looking for a place where air could leak in, not necessarialy gas leaking out.

If you can't find any obvious leak, then I would recommend running a test using an electric fuel pump. You can buy electric fuel pumps for not too much money, or if you live near San Jose I could loan you one. Connect it up in place of your engine fuel pump, input to the tank and the output to a 5 gallon can. Hook up the fuel pump and see how long it takes to fill the 5 gallon can. BE CAREFULL! Gas fumes and electric sparks can create a major problem!

I would expect the fuel pump to deliver a steady stream of gas, filling the can in about 5 minutes. If the flow rate is steady, but low, then continue to look for an obstruction, such as a kinked line. If the flow rate is eratic and has bubbles in the stream then I would continue looking for an air leak.

If you aren't getting the required flow and you have eliminated all the rest of the fuel line then you may need to look inside the tank itself. The outlet of the gas tank should be a "dip tube" from the top of the tank. Years ago I had a boat that the dip tube was a copper tube that had been soldered to the elbow that threaded into the top of the tank. The constant forces of the gas sloshing around in the tank worked at this joint until the copper tube cracked, right near the top. This allowed it to suck air from inside the tank.

If the problem is an obstruction then it is possible that you have some junk in the bottom of the tank that is clogging the dip tube. You might try using compressed air to blow back through the line to dislodge the clog. This will probably be a temporary fix, however, as whatever it was will still be in the tank.

Rod
 
Rod, we are putting on a new fuel pump this weekend. You have some good suggestions. Our gas tank is located under the aft cabin berth. Not a real easy location to get to. Hopefully it won't come to that. Will let you know, once we solve the problem, just exactly what it turned out to be.
 
Check the vent line on the gas tank. Sometimes a wasp will make a nest in it (happened twice to me) and your boat will stop. Try cracking the gas cap to let some air in and see what happens.
 
A guy named Dave Stringer has been highly recommended on this forum. His number is 209-339-1058 and will come to most marinas. I think he is out of Stockton.

I have had no need to call him, yet. But I've filed away his number just in case. If you use him, let us know what you and your husband think!

Good luck......
 
Cathy, I was the first to recommend Stringer marine here, I feel he is honest, fair and gets the work done within reason. He really knew the Merc package I have in my 1975 Carver, which was surprising! The work was neat and I had little to complain about after he worked on mine and I was a professional mechanic at one time specializing in exotic and classic cars so I tend to be rather picky! I hired Dave because I didn’t have the time to do it myself and I’d do it again.

Your issue should be rather easy to fix the way it sounds to me, however you need to have good diagnostic skills, knowledge, time and the patience to do it yourself if you want to save the money, else you hire someone.

Good luck
 
We have known Dave for quite some time. Small world, huh? Dave has worked on our boat in the past, but only at his shop. Never crossed our mind that he came to your marina. We picked up a flier at one of the marinas about a mobile mechanic in the area. That is what I was referring to.
And to answer your question about Dave, he is an excellent mechanic. He replaced a starter and throttle cable on our boat in the past. He is also a very honest person. I would recommend him to anyone needing assistance.

Flutterby, his shop is in Lodi.

Gnarley, You are totally correct. Time, patience and knowledge looks to be on short supply right now. Also, not necessarily trying to same money, just want her running again and dependable. We are heading up there tomorrow morning for the weekend. I'm taking up a couple of bacon wrapped filet mignons, liquor cabinet is stocked. Hopefully we will figure it out, but if not, dinner will be quite nice.
 
I normally crusade in favor of the Rochesters and against the Holleys, but I'll avoid that here. Watch out for dirt in the gas tank & fuel lines getting into the carbs. Yes, you have a filter, I know. It doesn't mean some didn't get in. This type of problem is all too common on boats. If you guys are suspicious of the carb, I know a place that can check it out for free.
 
Well folks, it looks like it was the fuel pump. We'll know next weekend when we take her out for a longer trip. Didn't even want to begin fuel tank inspection, etc. Thanks for everyones help. I think we are still going to talk Dave Stringer into coming up and doing a once over to make sure everything is in order.
 
So glad to hear of your success! It probably is a good idea to have Dave check everything out before boating season gets underway! Hope you can make it to the Spindrift....[see seperate posting].
 
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Originally posted by westdelta

I normally crusade in favor of the Rochesters and against the Holleys





FWIW, I could not agree more. Having had a few of each, the Holley's I've had experience were very unreliable...but the Rochesters were bullet proof...
 
When we checked into getting a new carburetor, the Rochesters are no longer available except in rebuilt. Having owned an auto parts store for over 15 years, I have seen too many problems with rebuilt carbs. Hopefully this holley will prove itself to be a good one.
 
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Originally posted by Cats Meow

When we checked into getting a new carburetor, the Rochesters are no longer available except in rebuilt. Having owned an auto parts store for over 15 years, I have seen too many problems with rebuilt carbs. Hopefully this holley will prove itself to be a good one.





It's true, a good carb shop is hard to find, but there's still one or two of them out there. For a while, Edelbrock was making new Quadra-jets just like the old Rochesters, but they stopped making them just a couple of years ago. Let me know how it goes on that Holley.
 
Recarbco in Pittsburg (CA) did a flawless job rebuilding the Zenith carburetor for our boat several years ago. They do a lot of marine carburetors. Google recarbco.
 
My boatyard got a rebuilt from Merc to replace my carb. It has worked flawlessly for 8 yrs.
 
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Originally posted by yzer

Recarbco in Pittsburg (CA) did a flawless job rebuilding the Zenith carburetor for our boat several years ago. They do a lot of marine carburetors. Google recarbco.






The place is very good. My Father had his Holley rebuilt there, and they honored the warranty BOTH times we had to take it back, LOL. But then the warranty expired, so my Father sold the boat (not just because of that...but it helped him make his decission).
 
So far the Holley runs like a champ. We are switching over to electronic ignition this weekend. I'll keep everyone informed. Hopefully all will be GOOD news, especially with the weather forecast this weekend.
 
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